OT: OT thread number 11 | No More Bad News PLEASE!

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Fourier

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I hope you resolve this. I got crappy neighbors but no one this extreme except one idiot have a party last until 4 am. Canada is not like Japan where neighbors actually respect each other.
Great neighbors are like gold. Bad neighbors can make life miserable. I've experienced both. I even had absolutely fantastic neighbors one one side and the neighbors from hell on the other. Now I have great neigbours all around me which makes it very tough to move.


When I moved to Waterloo this was often the lead story on the 6 o'clock news. Either that or a cop rescuing a duckling from a storm grate. Now it's shootings and drug busts often thanks to our friends in Toronto.
 

The Nuge

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I hope you resolve this. I got crappy neighbors but no one this extreme except one idiot have a party last until 4 am. Canada is not like Japan where neighbors actually respect each other.

Those people just piss me off. One of the factors for selling our old house was we had a neighbour behind us who would have a freaking drum circle from 10 pm to 3 am twice a year, and it made it impossible to sleep. Which was always awesome when I had to be up at 5 am and go work a 14 hour day… or when my daughter was born and she laid there crying all night
 
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Reminds me if this viral video



I don't know if I should be impressed or afraid of our possible future overlords.

Lots of poor behaviour in this video. First from all the cars that refused to stop for the deer waiting at the crosswalk. Second from the deer taking his sweet ass time crossing the street when someone did finally stop for him. I too fear for our future.;)
 

Drivesaitl

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Sign of end times. We were just checking out the Landmark theater in Meadows for first time. Not to see a movie, there was nothing on I would see. While we're there I saw skip the dishes getting pop and popcorn and snacks from the movie theater to deliver to somebodies home. I watched a bit flabbergasted and asked the delivery guy and he says they get these orders all the time.

So somebody out there that can't make popcorn and can't open a bottle or can of coke is paying enormously for this crap straight from movie theater with their 10X inflated prices. Ourselves we checked out concessions prices and food and determined we're not going now, we're never going. Well maybe in winter when you can sneak in all your own snacks in a parka. lol

But the concept that people sitting at home are comfortable blowing 10X mark up on basic items kind of blew my mind. The movie theater industry has always maintained they can price high due to "captive audience" effect. But now its a game changer with offsales concessions. I'm tempted to get a skip the dishes job just out of boredom and to see what people won't order...

This is actually a thing, and one common asked question apparently is can I get movie theater popcorn with uber or skip the dishes. They even advertise the options and of course streaming the actual films.

"yes you too can get our award winning popcorn made by culinary graduates using the finest Nebraska aged and kiln dried corn. No reason to even leave the home or bed. Please enjoy our award winning selection of pop from machines that are mostly soda water because none of our staff want to switch out the syrup canister."

I suppose in a few years actual physical movie theaters can close and people can just order it all out from Movie Amazon or some place like that and have a zoom theater other patron experience if they want. Everytime I blink the world changes. lol
 
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Drivesaitl

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Nobody is like Japan. An entire culture of actually caring for one another.
Everywhere else in the world is me me me me.
Weird take. Japan is one of the most insular societies, and arguably the most insular G7 type country. Guess it depends who those neighbors are..

Of course its easier to be caring in a monoculture with prescribed and less changing mores and values.

Japan is a country where reportedly shame and shaming is so foremost that homelessness is hidden as well. I don't really think its the most understanding of societies.

That said Japan is what it is because of decades of policy that have been different than Western nations, and without commentary on better or worse approaches. Indeed Canada veers to anomie and anarchy with its own approaches.

This is an interesting article. I'm unfamiliar with source, I don't know nearly enough, others here do, to comment better, but the article does go at incredible length to address possible reasons for how Japan is what it is.

 
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Drivesaitl

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Yeesh, not surprised.
Had a friend that lived in Denver and he said it was one of the worst cities he's ever been in. He moved away shortly.

"Celebrate"

People that are sports agnostic have a lot of reason to be and probably its the right way to go. Increasingly at sporting events, and in celebration of them Violence is commonplace. Factor in the lack of values and mores and add drugs and alcohol and people can't party or have a celebration without some chaos and much worse occurring.

But this isn't necessarily just Denver, its coming to cities everywhere and its only getting worse.

I used to love large gatherings. I've come to avoid them now.
 

rboomercat90

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Sign of end times. We were just checking out the Landmark theater in Meadows for first time. Not to see a movie, there was nothing on I would see. While we're there I saw skip the dishes getting pop and popcorn and snacks from the movie theater to deliver to somebodies home. I watched a bit flabbergasted and asked the delivery guy and he says they get these orders all the time.

So somebody out there that can't make popcorn and can't open a bottle or can of coke is paying enormously for this crap straight from movie theater with their 10X inflated prices. Ourselves we checked out concessions prices and food and determined we're not going now, we're never going. Well maybe in winter when you can sneak in all your own snacks in a parka. lol

But the concept that people sitting at home are comfortable blowing 10X mark up on basic items kind of blew my mind. The movie theater industry has always maintained they can price high due to "captive audience" effect. But now its a game changer with offsales concessions. I'm tempted to get a skip the dishes job just out of boredom and to see what people won't order...

This is actually a thing, and one common asked question apparently is can I get movie theater popcorn with uber or skip the dishes. They even advertise the options and of course streaming the actual films.

"yes you too can get our award winning popcorn made by culinary graduates using the finest Nebraska aged and kiln dried corn. No reason to even leave the home or bed. Please enjoy our award winning selection of pop from machines that are mostly soda water because none of our staff want to switch out the syrup canister."

I suppose in a few years actual physical movie theaters can close and people can just order it all out from Movie Amazon or some place like that and have a zoom theater other patron experience if they want. Everytime I blink the world changes. lol
I’m like you and have never ordered from these services mostly because it’s disgusted me how they hold small businesses hostage. Your movie theatre story is bad enough. What made me roll my eyes is seeing 7-11 advertising that you can now get slurpees delivered. Who the hell wants to get one of those delivered to their home? They’re so gross once they start to melt. That’s how lazy and entitled this generation is. We’re living in a pathetically sad society right now.
 

Drivesaitl

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I’m like you and have never ordered from these services mostly because it’s disgusted me how they hold small businesses hostage. Your movie theatre story is bad enough. What made me roll my eyes is seeing 7-11 advertising that you can now get slurpees delivered. Who the hell wants to get one of those delivered to their home? They’re so gross once they start to melt. That’s how lazy and entitled this generation is. We’re living in a pathetically sad society right now.
Quick story. In our neighborhood parents of their kids ( possibly failures to launch) bought a house for their 3 kids to share. Two of them had been couchsurfing and or homeless and one of them with her own kids. These siblings have had their house paid for, their bills paid for, and any money they have goes into the several orders of skip the dishes every day. Not joking, 3 meals a day delivered to door step. Recently the parents came by again this spring to do the yardwork on the house they paid for. The adult children can't be bothered lifting a finger. Apparently breathing is large effort. The parents bagged about 10 bags from the yard that hadn't been cleared up. The bags sit there to this day. Not even put out on "yard collection" day. They will be there until the parents wander by and notice nobody even bothered to put bags out. Theres other bags that were from the junk (i assume piling up fast food waste) from the house. Its just a shame. Its the proverbial you can lead a horse to water, even buy the water for them..

Unfortunately this is a common story. A lot of boom generation parents have enabled their progeny by in effect paying for their lives. The weird thing is its used against them and adult kids stating: "you had it good and life sucks now, you brought us into this world, its your fault" sigh. These are the actual convos you hear or see.

On down our backalley we have people that still haven't figured out that Waste management ONLY picks up bags that are placed in the plastic garbage receptacles. This is a failure on the part of residents and the city as people have rotting bags out back that have been in place for a calendar year. City doesn't do anything about it. Feral cats, animals manage to tear into it. Can't even address this sort of thing with some neighbors. They don't give a toss. Would only bother them if rotting garbage was directly next to bedroom window.. Might even be. typical junk yards and foot high grass covering everything.
 
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Weird take. Japan is one of the most insular societies, and arguably the most insular G7 type country. Guess it depends who those neighbors are..

Of course its easier to be caring in a monoculture with prescribed and less changing mores and values.

Japan is a country where reportedly shame and shaming is so foremost that homelessness is hidden as well. I don't really think its the most understanding of societies.

That said Japan is what it is because of decades of policy that have been different than Western nations, and without commentary on better or worse approaches. Indeed Canada veers to anomie and anarchy with its own approaches.

This is an interesting article. I'm unfamiliar with source, I don't know nearly enough, others here do, to comment better, but the article does go at incredible length to address possible reasons for how Japan is what it is.

Don't they rent out cages for people to live in in Japan? Sharing is caring.
 
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Ritchie Valens

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I’m like you and have never ordered from these services mostly because it’s disgusted me how they hold small businesses hostage. Your movie theatre story is bad enough. What made me roll my eyes is seeing 7-11 advertising that you can now get slurpees delivered. Who the hell wants to get one of those delivered to their home? They’re so gross once they start to melt. That’s how lazy and entitled this generation is. We’re living in a pathetically sad society right now.
Never mind "The Simpsons" predicting the future, "Wall-E" has nailed it.

 

Drivesaitl

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Never mind "The Simpsons" predicting the future, "Wall-E" has nailed it.


Idiocracy nailed it as well. Some kind of manufactured food in a bucket, seats with toilets, hoses for hydration, and everything has electrolytes. Good for the planet, good for the economy. heh

No joke though. I had a number of clients that were morbidly obese. Too heavy to get off the couch obese. People end up this way sometimes, and its more common now than it ever was. A whole family can't lift a parent that weighs 300lbs. Humans were in no way designed to even be in excess of that weight. Not shaming, just saying. Guess what happens in that couch. Worse than @tardigrade81 couch...;)

....And another thing... we're a Plastic FREE city now, That's why there were no takers. Chin up.

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They need all the plastic to build todays version of buildings and autos...That was funny in my head.
 

harpoon

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This is an interesting article. I'm unfamiliar with source, I don't know nearly enough, others here do, to comment better, but the article does go at incredible length to address possible reasons for how Japan is what it is.
It’s a poor article imo. Badly organized and full of ‘examples’ that don’t really illustrate the point the writer is trying to make. I note that the writer is Japanese, so it may not be my place to dispute his viewpoint, but I find many things in the piece that don’t line up with my experience. Not that that is necessarily uncommon. People have different experiences and different ‘takes’ on anything. I suppose that an immigrant to Canada would probably write quite differently about the country than you might being born and raised there.

I won’t comment too much on the content of the article you linked, but one thing that did strike me was the overly optimistic explanation of the word tatemae, which the author explains means ‘disregarding your own feelings for the good of others’, or ‘going along to get along’. That’s a pretty altruistic definition that is somewhat misleading imo. The individual characters that make up the word tatemae mean ‘build’ and ‘in front’. I think a more fair translation of tatemae would be something like ‘false front’ or ‘facade’. Think of the buildings in the old west towns that had tall, fancy front facing walls to conceal a rather small, simple structure behind. I wouldn’t totally dispute the author’s contention that there is an aspect of ‘hiding your true feelings in order to avoid rocking the boat’, but there is also a side to the word that is much closer to ‘fake’. In many respects it is a license to lie - especially to outsiders who couldn’t possibly be capable of understanding the depth of Japanese culture.
 
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