OT: OT thread number 11 | No More Bad News PLEASE!

[bellagiobob]

Otter glory hole.

 

[yukoner88]

Otter glory hole.

 

[Stoneman89]

I don't understand why Car Manufacturers don't build their vehicles in a way that the Gas Tank and Catalytic converters are inaccessible to thieves. Nothing frustrates me more than seeing hard working people getting their property vandalized for what amounts to a very small gain by the theif. (e.g. Smashing a window to collect change in the cup holder, drilling a hole in the tank to steal 40-50$ of gas, chopping off a catalytic converter).

Except there's some big money to be made with the theft of catalytic converters.

 

[Stoneman89]

I feel sorry for people that have to park their car outside in this day and age. Its the low hanging fruit. Vandals./thieves aren't going to make the effort to break into garages when cars are parked on streets all over.

Its not an easy to address problem. The perps are often serial in nature. When at work they will make everybodies lives miserable working a whole street overnight. They tend to even come back to the same locations after awhile.

Not sure what can be done about windows. There is no cost effective solution to this. The only one is that is always said. Do not keep any valuables in vehicles. The best way to think of it is would you leave the same things around on your front lawn or in a basket out there> The theft see's anything in your vehicle this way as they can break your windows in secs. Of course the windows being costlier than anything they steal.

My vehicle has a hidden compartment under back hatch floorboard where we can store a lot of stuff we like to keep in car without it being visible. Tinted glass helps too.

Gas tanks are a conundrum. the idea I think is to put them as far away from drivers, passengers and hot engine block as possible and so that they also are essentially open air. (same principal for mufflers really) These things are located where they are for reasons. Enclosing them in some way or making them inaccessible would produce other far more significant risks. Sometimes design and location is what it is. Kind of has to be that way.

Being in the property/casualty industry for the last 30 years or so, I can tell you straight up that one of the best ways to avoid theft or vandalism to your vehicle, is simply to put it in the garage when not in use, especially so at night. But there are a lot of people with garages available, that have them so full of junk and storage that putting a vehicle in there is out of the question. Their choice of course, but when there is multiple vehicle breakins during the night, guess who's vehicles are amoungst the ones that get targeted?

 

[Spawn]

I feel sorry for people that have to park their car outside in this day and age. Its the low hanging fruit. Vandals./thieves aren't going to make the effort to break into garages when cars are parked on streets all over.

Its not an easy to address problem. The perps are often serial in nature. When at work they will make everybodies lives miserable working a whole street overnight. They tend to even come back to the same locations after awhile.

Not sure what can be done about windows. There is no cost effective solution to this. The only one is that is always said. Do not keep any valuables in vehicles. The best way to think of it is would you leave the same things around on your front lawn or in a basket out there> The theft see's anything in your vehicle this way as they can break your windows in secs. Of course the windows being costlier than anything they steal.

My vehicle has a hidden compartment under back hatch floorboard where we can store a lot of stuff we like to keep in car without it being visible. Tinted glass helps too.

Gas tanks are a conundrum. the idea I think is to put them as far away from drivers, passengers and hot engine block as possible and so that they also are essentially open air. (same principal for mufflers really) These things are located where they are for reasons. Enclosing them in some way or making them inaccessible would produce other far more significant risks. Sometimes design and location is what it is. Kind of has to be that way.

Just had back window smashed a couple weeks ago. Only thing of value in the vehicle was a loonie at the bottom of a cup holder for shopping carts when grocery shopping. Third time this year we've had the vehicle broken into. Never anything of value stolen because there is never anything of value in the car. Luckily the first two times they got in without damaging the car, but this time they just smashed out one of the windows.

Put an end to two weekends worth of planned camp trips because we didn't want to deal with having a vehicle that was no longer bear safe while in the mountains or spend hours driving to and from the mountains with a plastic covering in place of a proper window.

We've come to the conclusion that without a garage available to us, the best solution is to just leave the doors unlocked. Hopefully no one decides its a nice place to sleep. Not really sure what else we can do.

 

[joestevens29]

Being in the property/casualty industry for the last 30 years or so, I can tell you straight up that one of the best ways to avoid theft or vandalism to your vehicle, is simply to put it in the garage when not in use, especially so at night. But there are a lot of people with garages available, that have them so full of junk and storage that putting a vehicle in there is out of the question. Their choice of course, but when there is multiple vehicle breakins during the night, guess who's vehicles are amoungst the ones that get targeted?

So I downloaded that neighbors app the other day and finally looked at it. Essentially it doesn't matter what you do.

Day, day, street, garage all getting broken into

 

[Drivesaitl]

Just had back window smashed a couple weeks ago. Only thing of value in the vehicle was a loonie at the bottom of a cup holder for shopping carts when grocery shopping. Third time this year we've had the vehicle broken into. Never anything of value stolen because there is never anything of value in the car. Luckily the first two times they got in without damaging the car, but this time they just smashed out one of the windows.

Put an end to two weekends worth of planned camp trips because we didn't want to deal with having a vehicle that was no longer bear safe while in the mountains or spend hours driving to and from the mountains with a plastic covering in place of a proper window.

We've come to the conclusion that without a garage available to us, the best solution is to just leave the doors unlocked. Hopefully no one decides its a nice place to sleep. Not really sure what else we can do.

Thats terrible. I think people sometimes don't even realize how much things like this occur and to what degree. At some point it crosses a line where people can't even have possessions of any kind without considerable risk of vandalism, robbery, etc. Theres areas of the city where people have multiple B & E to their house and they just have to learn to accept that at any time a dangerous intruder could get into their house, where they live. At what point lawlessness?

The worst thing in all this is it taking place where job openings are all over the place. That people rather be "thick as thieves" than just make an honest living is a real sign of where we seem to be headed.

 

[Stoneman89]

So I downloaded that neighbors app the other day and finally looked at it. Essentially it doesn't matter what you do.

Day, day, street, garage all getting broken into

Not sure what app you're talking about, but it DOES matter. And the statistics that are kept by insurers bear it out. Vehicles in the safety of a garage are proven to be far less at risk than ones left on the street or in the driveway. Not saying garages never get broken into, but even logic says, "out of sight, out of trouble."

 

[joestevens29]

Not sure what app you're talking about, but it DOES matter. And the statistics that are kept by insurers bear it out. Vehicles in the safety of a garage are proven to be far less at risk than ones left on the street or in the driveway. Not saying garages never get broken into, but even logic says, "out of sight, out of trouble."

All I was saying is nowhere is safe. The cameras, security systems, garages all might discourage some, but there are a lot that just don't give a shit or on some sort of drugs that they are invincible.

I am getting a kick out of the people that post on that app videos of dogs shitting on their lawn. I think that might be the bigger issue in my area, lol

 

[snag]

All I was saying is nowhere is safe. The cameras, security systems, garages all might discourage some, but there are a lot that just don't give a shit or on some sort of drugs that they are invincible.

I am getting a kick out of the people that post on that app videos of dogs shitting on their lawn. I think that might be the bigger issue in my area, lol

Oh man....that would so be me LOL

Went out of town for a couple weeks in August when there was that big heat blast. The kid we had mowing our lawn mowed our lawn too short and I thought too I had the sprinkler system programmed properly for the coming heat. Then my in-laws phoned me. I was looking at our front lawn on my cell phone from T.O. almost in tears as I walked my in-laws through programming my Defcon 1 recovery plan ROFL

Good news story: it has almost recovered

 

[snag]

So I downloaded that neighbors app the other day and finally looked at it. Essentially it doesn't matter what you do.

Day, day, street, garage all getting broken into

I still remember when I built my house and had the house WIRED for the security system (I hate wireless for that stuff) the guy doing the pre-wiring asked why I was doing the overhead doors cause "nobody does the overhead doors". "Well this guy does".

I am actually contemplating putting a smart-plug on the overhead doors too so I can completely turn off the garage doors. Heck, my dad actually had a padlock through the tracks of his overhead doors in his shop (though he is a retired machinist and has a ton of expensive tools and toys).

My aunt and uncle still laugh about how when they were teens in the 70s when my grandparents built their new house on the farm, they (my aunt and uncle) would drive around town seeing how many garage doors they could open. Times have changed a little....but only in how difficult it is.

 

[snag]

Just had back window smashed a couple weeks ago. Only thing of value in the vehicle was a loonie at the bottom of a cup holder for shopping carts when grocery shopping. Third time this year we've had the vehicle broken into. Never anything of value stolen because there is never anything of value in the car. Luckily the first two times they got in without damaging the car, but this time they just smashed out one of the windows.

Put an end to two weekends worth of planned camp trips because we didn't want to deal with having a vehicle that was no longer bear safe while in the mountains or spend hours driving to and from the mountains with a plastic covering in place of a proper window.

We've come to the conclusion that without a garage available to us, the best solution is to just leave the doors unlocked. Hopefully no one decides its a nice place to sleep. Not really sure what else we can do.

Damn dude.....that sucks. Totally violates you on a personal level.

10 years ago my wife and some neighbors had their vehicles egged. A couple months later, they went up the sidewalk with something and "keyed" a whole blocks worth of cars including my brand new truck.

Within 36 hours the was a for sale sign on our lawn.

Lived in our fifth wheel in our commercial lot where my wife has her business. Bought a stacking washer and drier to do laundry in the shop. Eight months went fast until it got cold.

All cause some asshole was too much of a f***ing coward to stick around to reap the fruits of his labour.

That said, best move we ever made.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

 

[yukoner88]

What's the use of living a few extra years if you aren't having any fun a long the way

 

[bellagiobob]

Perfect timing. We have milk that expires today, and my son used it in his cereal this morning and said it was fine, then I gave it the smell test and pretty much gagged. Too each his own I guess.

 

[oilers'72]

Perfect timing. We have milk that expires today, and my son used it in his cereal this morning and said it was fine, then I gave it the smell test and pretty much gagged. Too each his own I guess.

Keep your fridge as close to zero as it'll allow you. Perishables will last longer. I've had milk and meat go long. I had some apples that I put in and had the last one about 3 weeks later. Still crisp and no rot.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[Drivesaitl]

Keep your fridge as close to zero as it'll allow you. Perishables will last longer. I've had milk and meat go long. I had some apples that I put in and had the last one about 3 weeks later. Still crisp and no rot.

Carrots, whole minus carrot tops, put in pitcher of water in fridge will last for a month or more. Even more if you throw some picking salt and vinegar and dill in there and make pickled carrots out of em. heh, water works for celery as well. Keeps it stiff...

 

[Beerfish]

What goaltending by Desbiens.

And as well as making a ton of huge monstrous saves she actually plays like a goalie of the past, comes out to cut the angle and makes reflex saves, unlike todays nhl where you have to be 6'4" and just try and take up space.

 

[yukoner88]

I saw an advertisement on this site just now......and the thumbnail of the advertisement is a woman in an x-ray scan, with a gun shoved up one of her orifices

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[JustNapalmIt]

I saw an advertisement on this site just now......and the thumbnail of the advertisement is a woman in an x-ray scan, with a gun shoved up one of her orifices

Nice. I guess these days whatever pays the bills is a ok.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[Stoneman89]

All I was saying is nowhere is safe. The cameras, security systems, garages all might discourage some, but there are a lot that just don't give a shit or on some sort of drugs that they are invincible.

I am getting a kick out of the people that post on that app videos of dogs shitting on their lawn. I think that might be the bigger issue in my area, lol

Of course nowhere is 100 % safe, no one ever argued that. The point I'm attempting to make is that you can improve your odds of not having something bad happen by taking certain precautions.