OT: OT thread number 11 | No More Bad News PLEASE!

[Drivesaitl]

Quite frankly way too many people do not give the respect that operating a 1 ton+ hunk of steel at high speeds should command. Speeding, impaired driving, tailgating, blatantly disregarding laws... and minimal enforcement, unless something worse happens, which in many cases the penalties are still light. I still cycle on roads in the city but my head is always on a swivel and the amount of people who will risk a life for a few seconds (to get caught at a light or have to immediately slam their brakes) is baffling. Driving is much more enjoyable if you just chill out and go zen mode, lol (and you'll probably save money on gas from less sudden acceleration, speeding and sudden braking).

Yep. While Vision Zero is a laudable focus it hasn't done much of anything to counter the impaired driving carnage or the obscene high speed carnage. While the law abiding will tend to abide, those with no respect for the law or other individuals will continue to kill and maim. Vision zero hardly makes a dent in those numbers. So that even though much of Canada and cities are following Vision Zero protocol in the same country we are not impacting impaired driving, are not more serious on impaired driving, we lack appropriate sentence for impaired driving and we play catch and release with the same. Like I stated even for a driver that killed a motorcyclist, left the scene, had priors, had her drivers licence suspended, and still drove impaired and killed another driver. How is releasing such individuals and repeat offenders consistent with vision zero principles? Why are the courts not on board. That would seem to be a starting place.

Impaired driving, Excessive speeding is still heavily represented in serious injury and fatality stats. Nothing is being done about that.

Its routine on a Friday or Saturday night to see a driver come in from the highway around gateway and 23ave still doing highway speeds. Speed limit shifts from 80-70km/hr but commonplace for people to be exceeding and still going 110km/hr. In the city. Apparently they stop slowing down around 34th Avenue if that. This is constant. You could be by the roadside and count cars driving 50k over the speed limit. I never see enforcement there of any kind. Its the most obvious place in the entire city to have enforcement for dangerous speeding. That area from around Ellerslie to the city is constantly dangerous. I mean highway 2 in general is a wild west lawless joy ride. A drag strip. Who hasn't commonly seen drivers there doing +150km/hr even in traffic conditions. It often seems the mode traffic is doing 120K

 

[bellagiobob]

Sadly, that documentary was kind of a let down. I get that the man was well into his senior years and thoughts of his legacy were probably foremost in his mind, but that was just an hour and a half of repeating the same point over and over. Crass consumerism bad - which isn’t a difficult argument to make and certainly needn’t take up the entire allotted time.

I blame the documentary maker for asking bad questions, and interspersing the commentary with overly long ‘artistic’ shots of the same rock and trees blowing in the wind. All that time and we still have no idea of the actual layout of the island. How did he survive in the early days. How far is the boat ride to a place where supplies can be picked up. Did he have any dangerous moments. What about the pirate graves he found. Did he look for treasure. What about the old homestead. Who lived there and why did they leave. What prompted him to start conserving the tortoises. Those are such cool creatures and he must have a wealth of stories in that topic alone. But alas. More arty shots of a leaf instead. There were a thousand questions I wanted to hear about, but Mr. Director just wanted to talk about his first world guilt, and squeeze in every shooting technique he learned in film school 101.

I guess the part with the school children was kind of nice, but honestly, even that felt a bit contrived and coached. Maybe I’m cynical, but a whole classroom of kids and nobody wants to sell their island for $30 million? Really? Either they don’t understand what $30 million is, or those are some very pure children.

This is the kind of story I really like so I was excited to see your recommendation and went to watch it that very evening. Even allowing for it being made fifteen years ago, I was still disappointed. Wonder what you thought of it.

The book was more interesting than the doc, as he tells tales of his previous adventures, as well as his time on the island. I still enjoyed the doc, but I knew beforehand from the reviews what the focus was going to be, so that’s probably why I was fine with it. But totally understand being disappointed if you were expecting more of a historical doc, which would have been nice, but like with many docs, the doc maker focused on what the story meant to him, and his beliefs/passion, and went with that angle.

A little more background on the making of the doc. The_Press_files/A Grain of Sand (EPK).pdf

 

[bellagiobob]

Yep. While Vision Zero is a laudable focus it hasn't done much of anything to counter the impaired driving carnage or the obscene high speed carnage. While the law abiding will tend to abide, those with no respect for the law or other individuals will continue to kill and maim. Vision zero hardly makes a dent in those numbers. So that even though much of Canada and cities are following Vision Zero protocol in the same country we are not impacting impaired driving, are not more serious on impaired driving, we lack appropriate sentence for impaired driving and we play catch and release with the same. Like I stated even for a driver that killed a motorcyclist, left the scene, had priors, had her drivers licence suspended, and still drove impaired and killed another driver. How is releasing such individuals and repeat offenders consistent with vision zero principles? Why are the courts not on board. That would seem to be a starting place.

Impaired driving, Excessive speeding is still heavily represented in serious injury and fatality stats. Nothing is being done about that.

Its routine on a Friday or Saturday night to see a driver come in from the highway around gateway and 23ave still doing highway speeds. Speed limit shifts from 80-70km/hr but commonplace for people to be exceeding and still going 110km/hr. In the city. Apparently they stop slowing down around 34th Avenue if that. This is constant. You could be by the roadside and count cars driving 50k over the speed limit. I never see enforcement there of any kind. Its the most obvious place in the entire city to have enforcement for dangerous speeding. That area from around Ellerslie to the city is constantly dangerous. I mean highway 2 in general is a wild west lawless joy ride. A drag strip. Who hasn't commonly seen drivers there doing +150km/hr even in traffic conditions. It often seems the mode traffic is doing 120K

Speaking of catch and release…

 

[McSuper]

These f***ing gas prices. I'm not sure how I'll afford to get to work pretty soon.

I wouldn't be surprised to see $2 a litre in Alberta by summer.

Was 215 in NS for a while back down to 174.9

 

[ZJuice]

Was 215 in NS for a while back down to 174.9

I’ve been in the NWT for so damn long (33 days) that gas went from 210.9 to 170.4

Coincidentally the drop happened not long I started seeing many more articles than usual about price fixing in the national and local news

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[joestevens29]

Edmonton Prospects likely to delay May 2023 ballpark opening date

The Edmonton Prospects hope to start building their new stadium later this fall and begin play in Spruce Grove next spring, but the team's owner says that timeline is likely to change.

edmonton.ctvnews.ca

About The Ballpark - Myshak Metro Ball Park

myshakmetroballpark.com

Gonna be a neat ballpark once completed

 

[Jumptheshark]

 

[Beerfish]

So I am channel surfing and come across Canada vs Wales womens rugby. Canada winning big 31-3 at the time. What a bunch of excellent athletes, very impressive. Not only that the 10 minutes of game I watched was 10 times more physical than the average hockey game. Just beastly. Not one minute of that game is not contested.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[yukoner88]

 

[Jumptheshark]

Great double about double standards. Made some great points but when they says we knew rules when we started' then change rules

 

[oilers'72]

Great double about double standards. Made some great points but when they says we knew rules when we started' then change rules

The video didn't show.

media/2022/08/30/canada-tv-anchor-lisa-laflamme-firing-gray-hair-newday-vpx.cnn

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[Stoneman89]

Yep. While Vision Zero is a laudable focus it hasn't done much of anything to counter the impaired driving carnage or the obscene high speed carnage. While the law abiding will tend to abide, those with no respect for the law or other individuals will continue to kill and maim. Vision zero hardly makes a dent in those numbers. So that even though much of Canada and cities are following Vision Zero protocol in the same country we are not impacting impaired driving, are not more serious on impaired driving, we lack appropriate sentence for impaired driving and we play catch and release with the same. Like I stated even for a driver that killed a motorcyclist, left the scene, had priors, had her drivers licence suspended, and still drove impaired and killed another driver. How is releasing such individuals and repeat offenders consistent with vision zero principles? Why are the courts not on board. That would seem to be a starting place.

Impaired driving, Excessive speeding is still heavily represented in serious injury and fatality stats. Nothing is being done about that.

Its routine on a Friday or Saturday night to see a driver come in from the highway around gateway and 23ave still doing highway speeds. Speed limit shifts from 80-70km/hr but commonplace for people to be exceeding and still going 110km/hr. In the city. Apparently they stop slowing down around 34th Avenue if that. This is constant. You could be by the roadside and count cars driving 50k over the speed limit. I never see enforcement there of any kind. Its the most obvious place in the entire city to have enforcement for dangerous speeding. That area from around Ellerslie to the city is constantly dangerous. I mean highway 2 in general is a wild west lawless joy ride. A drag strip. Who hasn't commonly seen drivers there doing +150km/hr even in traffic conditions. It often seems the mode traffic is doing 120K

As reprehensible and terrible as impaired driving is, I think distracted driving has now replaced it as the number one problem and accident causer.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[joestevens29]

I think they have the wrong sponsor on the table. Seems like something guys drinking some sort of alcohol would've came up with, not vitamin water

 

[Beerfish]

I'd like to see big dog stand up and knock the sh* out of little dog.

 

[joestevens29]

I'd like to see big dog stand up and knock the sh* out of little dog.

I was thinking the same thing. But the corgi might run right under it lol

 

[Drivesaitl]

As reprehensible and terrible as impaired driving is, I think distracted driving has now replaced it as the number one problem and accident causer.

Its yet another example of where the Vision zero is optics related rather than pushing for real substantive change.

So that the 3 main causes of fatal collisions and significant injuries involving driving are;

Impairment, distraction, drowsiness, and improperly devised intersections.

We have the technology to make care manufacturers and require car sales to address the first 3. We have monitoring for alcohol that can disengage starting the vehicle. This tech exists. Similarly technology that can assess eye tracking and a person falling asleep at the wheel. We could alleviate all these with technology and not that expensive. Less expensive than a lot of the other things that are superflous like back up cameras.

All it would take is push and working with car industry to address the first 3 problems fullscale. The 4th is more difficult. But we presently have a driving population that are best viewed as cattle behind wheels. We're inundated with drivers that can't successfully or correctly make a left hand turn. We all know this. A significant proportion of the driving pop in Edmonton does not conduct something so basic as a safe left hand turn.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I'd like to see big dog stand up and knock the sh* out of little dog.

Just my take but I find dogs like the small dog kind of annoying and its one aspect of selective breeding of dogs that serve no real purpose but just have these weird behaviors. Envision which dog could even survive in the wild. Pink poodles need not apply. Not sure many small dogs have any use beyond keeping their owners awake any time their neurons twitch and they want to run around apeshit.

That said I realize Corgis are herders in some parts but they make terrible pets if you want to ever get any sleep. A lot of reasons to stay away from getting one.

10 Reasons You Shouldn’t Get A Pembroke Welsh Corgi

As responsible corgi owners, it is our duty to break these stereotypes and educate future corgi owners about the breed

stumpsandrumps.com

That "oh that dog is so cute" evaporates quickly and these things being found dropped off in any pet shelters and abandoned. The temperament of the pet has to match your own. The temperament of a Corgi matches a crazed meth addict that isn't employed and that can stay up long and crash anytime. Not someone with fixed working hours that has to get up at 5am for shift work and that its hard because the damn Corgi decided to run around and bark at shadows all night..

 

[Drivesaitl]

Just public service announcement but theres been some disturbing trends from auto dealers and service shops. That is that if your vehicle is damaged, vandalized, or if such things as Catylytic converters are stripped off (this is at endemic levels) while vehicles are left at lots that dealerships will try to make you responsible for these damages.

So that when a dealership says to you just drop off your vehicle whenever you like don't do that. Only take your vehicle to a dealership when they are in operation. Pick up the same vehicle as soon as you can. Don't leave it around the lot for days. Security is limited now at dealerships as increasingly nobody is even willing to do such work. When they do find people its people that are unlikely to intervene in anything going on. Even fenced in areas are not safe. These thieves operate pick a parts even if it involves scaling or cutting through a fence. The cutting through very easy to do and rarely detected. Chain link doesn't really keep anybody out that wants to get in. Vehicle lots are hotbeds of petty crime now. But with huge costs imparted to vehicle owners as repairs of damage done are outrageously expensive.

All of the same applies to rental cars. The firms will attempt to hold you responsible for any damages to car subsequent to when you dropped off car at rental place. When doing so take time off, only drop off during working hours and stay around for the quick vehicle inspection and always retain your signed off copy. I even take pictures of a rental before returning it. you could be out thousands of bucks in claims if you don't. This car rental problem has been going on for a long time. never use the drop the keys in the slot service. Convenience involves so many risks.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Just public service announcement but theres been some disturbing trends from auto dealers and service shops. That is that if your vehicle is damaged, vandalized, or if such things as Catylytic converters are stripped off (this is at endemic levels) while vehicles are left at lots that dealerships will try to make you responsible for these damages.

So that when a dealership says to you just drop off your vehicle whenever you like don't do that. Only take your vehicle to a dealership when they are in operation. Pick up the same vehicle as soon as you can. Don't leave it around the lot for days. Security is limited now at dealerships as increasingly nobody is even willing to do such work. When they do find people its people that are unlikely to intervene in anything going on. Even fenced in areas are not safe. These thieves operate pick a parts even if it involves scaling or cutting through a fence. The cutting through very easy to do and rarely detected. Chain link doesn't really keep anybody out that wants to get in. Vehicle lots are hotbeds of petty crime now. But with huge costs imparted to vehicle owners as repairs of damage done are outrageously expensive.

All of the same applies to rental cars. The firms will attempt to hold you responsible for any damages to car subsequent to when you dropped off car at rental place. When doing so take time off, only drop off during working hours and stay around for the quick vehicle inspection and always retain your signed off copy. I even take pictures of a rental before returning it. you could be out thousands of bucks in claims if you don't. This car rental problem has been going on for a long time. never use the drop the keys in the slot service. Convenience involves so many risks.

I don't understand why Car Manufacturers don't build their vehicles in a way that the Gas Tank and Catalytic converters are inaccessible to thieves. Nothing frustrates me more than seeing hard working people getting their property vandalized for what amounts to a very small gain by the theif. (e.g. Smashing a window to collect change in the cup holder, drilling a hole in the tank to steal 40-50$ of gas, chopping off a catalytic converter).

 

[Drivesaitl]

I don't understand why Car Manufacturers don't build their vehicles in a way that the Gas Tank and Catalytic converters are inaccessible to thieves. Nothing frustrates me more than seeing hard working people getting their property vandalized for what amounts to a very small gain by the theif. (e.g. Smashing a window to collect change in the cup holder, drilling a hole in the tank to steal 40-50$ of gas, chopping off a catalytic converter).

I feel sorry for people that have to park their car outside in this day and age. Its the low hanging fruit. Vandals./thieves aren't going to make the effort to break into garages when cars are parked on streets all over.

Its not an easy to address problem. The perps are often serial in nature. When at work they will make everybodies lives miserable working a whole street overnight. They tend to even come back to the same locations after awhile.

Not sure what can be done about windows. There is no cost effective solution to this. The only one is that is always said. Do not keep any valuables in vehicles. The best way to think of it is would you leave the same things around on your front lawn or in a basket out there> The theft see's anything in your vehicle this way as they can break your windows in secs. Of course the windows being costlier than anything they steal.

My vehicle has a hidden compartment under back hatch floorboard where we can store a lot of stuff we like to keep in car without it being visible. Tinted glass helps too.

Gas tanks are a conundrum. the idea I think is to put them as far away from drivers, passengers and hot engine block as possible and so that they also are essentially open air. (same principal for mufflers really) These things are located where they are for reasons. Enclosing them in some way or making them inaccessible would produce other far more significant risks. Sometimes design and location is what it is. Kind of has to be that way.

 

[yukoner88]

I think they have the wrong sponsor on the table. Seems like something guys drinking some sort of alcohol would've came up with, not vitamin water

Vitamin water is good hangover medicine