I do agree the 67's were buyers but the argument on our board was they should have bought more. Our forward depth was a concern, then Boucher done. Now Tolnai out I don't know how long. That being said I think our chances are as good as anybody but I never saw us as the prohibitive favorites as some posters on other threads seemed to based on our regular season. I agree with OMG we're in the mix but 5-6 teams could come away with it.
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NordiquesForeva
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Mews is from Ottawa and its unlikely he'd waive his NMC (its doubtful he was even asked to honestly).
Personally I don't think Ottawa needed to make a Wright-level trade. Hindsight is 20/20 but I'm pleased Boyd didn't acquire Wright. But, some of us on the Ottawa board believe it was irresponsible of Boyd to not at least go out and acquire a good middle-6 forward to (1) help insure the forward group against Boucher's potential season-ending injury (which was known at the time of the deadline); (2) extend the lineup and lessen our reliance on 17-year old forwards; and (3) add a veteran presence, preferably with some size and physicality, to add a missing element to our forward group. There were plenty of players moved at the deadline that fit the bill. Obviously we ended up losing Boucher for the season (he only played 21 games for us this season, 2 after the deadline so not a back-breaker), Barlas (3rd/4th line LW) is week-to-week, and Tolnai (2nd/3rd line C) is in concussion protocol. So now depth at forward is a concern, as a lot of us predicted it would be.
Marrelli could likely have been included in a deal, maybe even with Foster. Those two players + picks could have been used to acquire a really good player + good depth player to fill the gaps described above. There was a lot of talk around the team about Boyd's reluctance to move rosters players at the deadline, which ultimately is what happened. As it stands, we've been consistently dressing 8 D and playing one of them (Sirman) on the 4th line. Rohrer has played out of position at C all season.
So I'd agree with those that argue that we should have acquired more at the deadline. Ottawa is a very good team, but a flawed one. They're vulnerable to a heavy team like Oshawa...I don't believe Oshawa has the horses to take 4 games (no offense at all), but North Bay certainly does. Perhaps Barrie too. Sarnia definitely does. I'm not making excuses, it is what it is. Ottawa's roster construction for playoff hockey is flawed and in a season in which they could have gone into the playoffs as prohibitive favourites after a few sharp moves at the deadline, they'll instead enter a series vs. Peterborough as a slight favourite, then a coin flip series vs. North Bay (or Barrie) or perhaps even a slight underdog. I honestly think Boyd did a disservice to the team by not being more aggressive at the deadline, but that's my perspective and its not my job on the line.
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Back to things that matter on the Gens thread, the Oshawa Generals, Calum Ritchie actually had 4 assists last night (he set up Gagnier PPG with 3 minutes left, not Sennecke, which will be changed), so he's up to 12 points in 9 career playoff games and 5 points in his last 2 games
Race Dawg
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Oshawa is a subpar team and by some great turn of events they comeback and beat the 67's in 6 or 7 it would be an upset. Face it Generals fans, even if you were to get by Ottawa then the likes of Peterborough and North Bay would dismantle you pretty quickly in subsequent rounds. Don't get all cocky cause you beat Ottawa last night. The 67's have beaten you 9 times out of 11 games this year. Yes Ottawa is a team that is vulnerable in a lot of areas IMO and probably won't make it out of the OHL this year but they've had a successful year as a younger team. Now enjoy your nice comeback win and focus on the next game. See you on the ice Thursday!
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Oshawa is a subpar team and by some great turn of events they comeback and beat the 67's in 6 or 7 it would be an upset. Face it Generals fans, even if you were to get by Ottawa then the likes of Peterborough and North Bay would dismantle you pretty quickly in subsequent rounds. Don't get all cocky cause you beat Ottawa last night. The 67's have beaten you 9 times out of 11 games this year. Yes Ottawa is a team that is vulnerable in a lot of areas IMO and probably won't make it out of the OHL this year but they've had a successful year as a younger team. Now enjoy your nice comeback win and focus on the next game. See you on the ice Thursday!
I'm a 67s fan...
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Everyone said Ottawa in 4, well that's not going to happen now, And even if and I know it's a big if Oshawa gets by Ottawa who cares who will Oshawa will play we were not suppose to beat Ottawa, but I know one thing Ottawa won't be playing themOshawa is a subpar team and by some great turn of events they comeback and beat the 67's in 6 or 7 it would be an upset. Face it Generals fans, even if you were to get by Ottawa then the likes of Peterborough and North Bay would dismantle you pretty quickly in subsequent rounds. Don't get all cocky cause you beat Ottawa last night. The 67's have beaten you 9 times out of 11 games this year. Yes Ottawa is a team that is vulnerable in a lot of areas IMO and probably won't make it out of the OHL this year but they've had a successful year as a younger team. Now enjoy your nice comeback win and focus on the next game. See you on the ice Thursday!
See you on the ice Thursday
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The point is Miedema isn’t a great player, nor is he a great Pro prospect. We may differ in opinion regarding the value of Foster (who you dislike terribly); however, Miedema is not a viable key component in a trade like that. He is a middle six winger at best on a contender. In light of that, it seemed reasonable to assume Ottawa could have competed in that discussion not using any of Mews, Marrelli or Pinelli. Additionally, Ottawa still had a considerable number of picks to narrow any perceived gap.
I agree with Nords regarding Wright not being the right player. I think Zito would have been the better option but regardless, the 67’s needed to make another move utilizing one of the aforementioned players not named Marrelli, Mews, or Pinelli. Boyd chose to stay loyal to the horses that got him there. So, be it. You and I both agree this Ottawa 67’s roster is not likely to move to the OHL Finals. Boyd is the one that will have to justify the final result and stand by his decisions.
Meanwhile, we have a better series than predicted with Oshawa because of that. Let’s hope the games remain entertaining and everyone makes it out alive!
For Generals Fans rolling their eyes right now itching to tear a strip off me but can’t, this isn’t about anything other than tempering expectations for Ottawa that seemed to be artificially heightened. IT is not meant to be disrespectful to the Generals. They have been full value for showing the kind of moxie required to put themselves in a good situation. This bodes well for the future in Oshawa. If these young players can make an impact now when they aren’t supposed to even be a threat, they will carry with them the confidence in future seasons as the team continues to rebuild into a contender again. As a past supporter of the Oshawa Generals when I was a kid growing up in Whitby, I look forward to seeing how this team progresses. There is a tremendously loyal fanbase in Oshawa and they deserve the entertainment they are getting right now.
I think about half of the predictions were 5 games and the other half 4 with a few scattered 6’s and 7’s. If Ottawa were to win in 5 games, about 40% would be correct with about 55% within one game.Everyone said Ottawa in 4, well that's not going to happen now, And even if and I know it's a big if Oshawa gets by Ottawa who cares who will Oshawa will play we were not suppose to beat Ottawa, but I know one thing Ottawa won't be playing them
See you on the ice Thursday
I love the fact this series is meaningful! Who wants to watch 4 blowouts?
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Don't anticipate getting anymore replies from GU for awhile...Give it up GU! This is now a 67’s thread. Sorry…
smh.
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Don't anticipate getting anymore replies from GU for awhile...
Ah! GU is a good guy. He knows I’m just goofing around. If he wasn’t a good guy I wouldn’t poke him like that!
Race Dawg
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Actually I predicted Ottawa would win the series in 6 on both the 67's and here on the GENEREALS Board. Go check for yourself. Stay in your lane and see you Thursday son!Everyone said Ottawa in 4, well that's not going to happen now, And even if and I know it's a big if Oshawa gets by Ottawa who cares who will Oshawa will play we were not suppose to beat Ottawa, but I know one thing Ottawa won't be playing them
See you on the ice Thursday
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Race Dawg
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Sorry I knew that it was just easier to click on a main contributor and direct it to the Oshawa faithful lol
Oshawa has one of their draft picks from the 02 class (3rd rounder), 0 of their draft picks from the 03 class, and two of their draft picks from the 04 class (10th and 11th rounder).Oshawa is a subpar team and by some great turn of events they comeback and beat the 67's in 6 or 7 it would be an upset. Face it Generals fans, even if you were to get by Ottawa then the likes of Peterborough and North Bay would dismantle you pretty quickly in subsequent rounds. Don't get all cocky cause you beat Ottawa last night. The 67's have beaten you 9 times out of 11 games this year. Yes Ottawa is a team that is vulnerable in a lot of areas IMO and probably won't make it out of the OHL this year but they've had a successful year as a younger team. Now enjoy your nice comeback win and focus on the next game. See you on the ice Thursday!
Oshawa was never supposed to be good this year, most fans wanted to see them miss the playoffs to get in the lottery. If they knocked off the 1 seed and still got swept in the second round it would still be a successful season as they’re built to win 2 years from now. Any serious team should sweep these Gens.
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Winning a playoff game and performing well in 2 others is a successful season IMO!
Oshawa is rebuilding almost from scratch! I would have been very happy if Ottawa had managed to pull out a playoff win last year…
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Typical. Oshawa fans resurrecting from the dead talking with swagger after a rare win. Yeah well I guess then a non-serious team may end up beating your Gennies then.
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You are pushing around Gens fans on their own thread! It is not like they invaded the 67’s thread. Be a respectful guest!
Even Gatineau lost game 3 after going 25-0-1 heading into that game. It happens.
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C’mon Gens. Make my day and beat these guys again. Also, the way things stand I’m going to become a Petes fan next round.
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Just saying, no deal for Wright without a RD included; Windsor gave Kingston the opportunity to recruit one.
And Mediema will prove to be a prize; a faster version of Cuyelle by the time he graduates from the OHL imo.
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What is your percentage odds of Kingston getting Gavin McCarthy signed? He is a BU commit for next season. He’s American. Looks like a 2nd/3rd round NHL pick. Kingston isn’t typically considered a draw. No Memorial Cup Host now. Is it even 10%?
I think with that package, there must have been at least a quick discussion about interest, wouldn’t you think? It is just that it seems so unlikely.
I’d like to see Kingston sign him though. Looks like a really good player.
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Don’t be like that! Show some love for the ‘Poles!
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At the time of the trade, ‘feel there is a reasonable chance we get him signed’
My guess is 55/45 signed. Many nhl round 2-3 picks get red-shirted as freshman. If he really is a student, the Fronts can get him a tour of Queens while dangling a gold education package.
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