OOT Scoreboard 2022-23

[Bone Density]

 

[jkrdevil]

Dubas might be allowed to pull the trigger on a Keefe firing and make it to the end of the season, but they probably won't let him hire a guy that's gonna get signed for 3-4 years. I doubt they'll let him hire somebody that they have to give term to, unless Shanny really likes that person too.

So it would probably be one of the assistants coming in as the interim head coach for the rest of the season or whoever their AHL head coach is.

Wow, I'm so shocked the Rangers beat the Sucks I mean the Ducks.

Hand them the cup, plan the parade.

I heard if we beat them tomorrow we do get a playoff berth.

It isn’t a “being allowed to” thing. Keefe is Dubas’ guys. He’s literally the only coach Dubas has hired going back to when Dubas ran junior teams. He is. It going to want to fire Keefe. So it will be a situation where if there is a coaching change it will be a GMband coach going at the same time.

 

[Devils090]

Way too early to even think of firing Keefe, if they are struggling in December then sure but I don’t think it’s going to happen. Devils already should have fired Ruff so if we get off to a brutal start he’s toast right away.

 

[Guttersniped]

Don't get me wrong I think it'd be pretty unlikely...I said in another thread that they'd probably have to get off to a 2-7-1 start or something like that for it to even be on the table by November. It's just hilarious that after I posted that, hours later they go and lose to Arizona like a week after they already lost to Montreal.

The Leafs started 2-4-1 last season. That included a home loss to the Sharks and their two wins weren’t impressive (1-2 vs MON & 1-3 vs OTT).

Then the offense and Campbell caught fire. Even though I doubt their PP will be #1 in the league again, they’ll heat up offensively soon enough.

When they’re running hot they can often outscore crappy goaltending, but they can’t do it all season, so they definitely have a goaltending problem unless Samsonov is both solid and not driven into the ground.

And the Canucks, lol. A section of Vancouver fans wildly overrating their team in the off-season is yearly tradition on the main boards so them falling on their face is satisfying.

It’s one thing to be hopeful and another for Van fans to blather about having the deepest forward group in the NHL, being one “minute munching RHD” from being a Cup Contender, quietly likely to win the Pacific, etc

Demko is an excellent goalie but he’s been inconsistent before and their trashfire defense has several injuries so it’s somehow even worse.

 

[Guttersniped]

Call me crazy, but I still think they can be a playoff team in that division.

Edmonton and Calgary are definitely playoff teams and early returns on Vegas are looking good. Maybe those are the only 3 and 5 come out of the central?

Then again, maybe I am crazy thinking Jim Benning's damage can be undone that quickly.

Ok, You’re crazy.

Who knows, it’s a clown show division and the Kings have had their own struggles.

I still like LA over Van, even though it’s been reported here (on occasion) that the Kings coach is, IIRC, “a f***ing loser”.

 

[guitarguyvic]

Incredible that a coach like Boudreau can be on the hot seat with not even a full season under his belt with the team. But we just had to hang on to Ruff this off-season for…reasons?

 

[NJDevs26]

Incredible that a coach like Boudreau can be on the hot seat with not even a full season under his belt with the team. But we just had to hang on to Ruff this off-season for…reasons?

Partly that's the difference between being in a market where every game gets playoff-like coverage, and a market where basically it took Lindy three years to hear his first semi-tough question from Ryan at the Ledger.

 

[Devils090]

Partly that's the difference between being in a market where every game gets playoff-like coverage, and a market where basically it took Lindy three years to hear his first semi-tough question from Ryan at the Ledger.

Lol seriously, last season would have been DEFCON 1 in a big market, especially a Canadian one. Ruff hasn’t had a tough interview since he got here, got one question on ice time and bailed, guy would have been crucified anywhere else.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Early softy of the year?

 

[Devils090]

Maybe you can cut him a little slack since it was knuckling in there but yeeeessh

 

[Jack Be Quick]

Ever been to a Taco Bell Cantina?

I'd sneak in airplane bottles of vodka and pour them right into one of those.

 

[Devils090]

Canes rolling along, our old friend Stefan Noesen playing for them tonight and has an assist.

 

[Bone Density]

Ok, You’re crazy.

Who knows, it’s a clown show division and the Kings have had their own struggles.

I still like LA over Van, even though it’s been reported here (on occasion) that the Kings coach is, IIRC, “a f***ing loser”.

LA was my dark horse last season. I really like the way the team is built but their coach and quite frankly, the organization is having a tough time developing their top prospects. From what I've heard, Turcotte doesn't even get PP time in the AHL, lol. Kaliyev looks ready to break out, so lets give him 4 minutes a night. Kind of the same deal with Vilardi.

 

[Devils090]

Canes rolling along, our old friend Stefan Noesen playing for them tonight and has an assist.

2 helpers for Noesen lol, outscoring Hughes so far

*runs out of the thread*

 

[Bleedred]

Early softy of the year?

There’s like 4 really bad softy of the night caliber goals and I’m not even done reviewing yet. I still got 2.5 more games left (I haven’t even gotten to Grubauer yet, who is always good for some) and I just saw this.

Holy f*** that was an embarrassment. As bad as that was, Darcy Kuemper and Thatcher Demko both had a really horrible gaffe each. And DeSmith let in a really weak one to Nick Suzuki that got the the Canadiens on the board in the 3rd period and started the comeback and eventual 3-2 OT win while the Pens were up 2-0.

Kuemper had a really pathetic giveaway where he played the puck right to a Canuck when it bounced over his stick and Demko watched a shot hit the side of his net and kept in play that went right to a Caps player who had an easy goal.

What a terrible night for goalies. I have multiple goalies that I gave a stoppable goal to tonight down for 2 or even 3 for Demko.

Just a rotten night.

Husso let in some bad ones, Gibson. Quick. Bob all with multiple. Kuemper with 2. Gustavsson with 2. Shesterkin with 2.

That goal on Gustavsson was definitely the worst of the bunch.

 

[britdevil]

Calibre of goaltending league wide has been on a downward trend for a while now.

There are some really horrible goalies out there. Are kids not wanting to play the position???

Obviously you have the Russian contingent that seem to be so far ahead of everyone else, it's not even funny.

 

[Bleedred]

Calibre of goaltending league wide has been on a downward trend for a while now.

There are some really horrible goalies out there. Are kids not wanting to play the position???

Obviously you have the Russian contingent that seem to be so far ahead of everyone else, it's not even funny.

Gustavsson tonight is probably the worst game I’ve seen a goalie play this season so far. Grubauer’s first game was pretty bad too. No matter how I or anybody else feels about Cam Talbot, Ottawa did good with that trade. Minnesota struck out big time with that trade, because Gustavsson has never been an NHL regular and has played poorly whenever he’s been in the NHL for the Sens and has looked even worse in the 1.5 games he’s played for Minnesota. So basically they have a goalie that’s about 90 years old and a career AHL/euro league guy over there.

Speaking of Grubauer, I want everybody that keeps talking about how him being had is only because he went from Colorado to Seattle and how he really isn’t bad and it’s the expansion team.

The first two goals were bad goals. The first goal was pathetic. There were too many bad goals tonight for that to be softy of the night, but that was pathetic.

And while you’re at, go look at the last two goals Martin Jones allowed the other night when he was playing. Both were just horrible goals and he was yanked after them.

And if you really have time you can go watch highlights of Grubauer’s first game of the season against Anaheim. The worst I had seen this season so far, until Gustavsson tonight.

Or you can just keeping talking how it’s the team over there, while you watch none of the goals.

 

[Jack Be Quick]

Watched the Bruins-Panthers game tonight and here are my takeaways.

Pasta is scary good, Bergeron still has it, and their window isn't entirely closed yet. Pavel is still useless even on that line. It's a damn shame we let Greer leave this organization. Ullmark is a pretty big question mark.

Florida is going to regret that Tkachuk trade sooner rather than later. Bobs doing Bobs things that are usually reserved for the postseason.

Fun game to watch overall though.

 

[tailfins]

Watched the Bruins-Panthers game tonight and here are my takeaways.

Pasta is scary good, Bergeron still has it, and their window isn't entirely closed yet. Pavel is still useless even on that line. It's a damn shame we let Greer leave this organization. Ullmark is a pretty big question mark.

Florida is going to regret that Tkachuk trade sooner rather than later. Bobs doing Bobs things that are usually reserved for the postseason.

Fun game to watch overall though.

Florida almost certainly got worse this year. But, I think they did the right thing. Huberdeau and Weegar are getting older and needed big contracts. If you don't think you can win in the next couple of years with them as your core, trading them now for a younger core piece seems smart. Next year, Huberdeau and Weegar are nearly $17 million in cap hit while Tkachuck is $9.5 million. This buys them some time to solve the Bob contract and (IMO) shifts their window a bit.

Really, I could see Florida being a destination for Severson or Graves next year.

 

[Eggtimer]

I,th

Florida almost certainly got worse this year. But, I think they did the right thing. Huberdeau and Weegar are getting older and needed big contracts. If you don't think you can win in the next couple of years with them as your core, trading them now for a younger core piece seems smart. Next year, Huberdeau and Weegar are nearly $17 million in cap hit while Tkachuck is $9.5 million. This buys them some time to solve the Bob contract and (IMO) shifts their window a bit.

Really, I could see Florida being a destination for Severson or Graves next year.

I think Florida shit the bed on the Tkachuk trade. Yes it gives them more cap flexibility next year on, but they made their team worse for now and who is to say that they will use the extra cap wisely ? Or that anyone worth while will be available ? Why trade two very good players for on “good” player and then a uncertainty in finding someone better than Wegar or Huberdeau. Plus giving up a decent prospect and a 1st round pick?
Florida screwed up in my opinion. Tkachuk has shown he is nothing special in the playoffs… I thunk florida thinks that he will be some beast in the playoffs. They over-reacted to losing in the playoffs.
They made some all-in moves at the TDL and pissed their future away , then go and trade two studs to get future cap space down the road? Weird .Some moves that show they are all in in the short term , then make a long term move ?
I honestly think there is more to it with Huberdeau and Weegar. They are best buds. It was rumored Hunerdeau loves his strip clubs and has been seen in them night before games etc.

 

[My3Sons]

I,th

I think Florida shit the bed on the Tkachuk trade. Yes it gives them more cap flexibility next year on, but they made their team worse for now and who is to say that they will use the extra cap wisely ? Or that anyone worth while will be available ? Why trade two very good players for on “good” player and then a uncertainty in finding someone better than Wegar or Huberdeau. Plus giving up a decent prospect and a 1st round pick?
Florida screwed up in my opinion. Tkachuk has shown he is nothing special in the playoffs… I thunk florida thinks that he will be some beast in the playoffs. They over-reacted to losing in the playoffs.
They made some all-in moves at the TDL and pissed their future away , then go and trade two studs to get future cap space down the road? Weird .Some moves that show they are all in in the short term , then make a long term move ?
I honestly think there is more to it with Huberdeau and Weegar. They are best buds. It was rumored Hunerdeau loves his strip clubs and has been seen in them night before games etc.

My guess is that FLA figured paying one guy who is younger a UFA deal is better than paying two older guys UFA deals?

 

[BurntToast]

My guess is that FLA figured paying one guy who is younger a UFA deal is better than paying two older guys UFA deals?

They dug themselves into a whole, by trading away the future for a team that flamed out in the playoffs. If the Panthers had a closer series with TB or if they won the east or the cup, they probably stand pat.

The window for success was much slimmer, keeping those guys. As we have seen with teams throughout history, it’s not the best players who win, it’s the best teams.

 

[Deleted member 28548]

Flyers ahead of TB in the third period in Tampa.

 

[Dialamo]

Columbus and the Flyers win. Islanders on track to beating the Sharks. Not a great night for the OOT.

 

[Deleted member 28548]

Super early but so far the usual teams that many fans expected to take steps back have continued their winning ways - Boston, Pitt, Washington although the caps are just .500
Too soon to say the flyers were underestimated a bit?