OOT Scoreboard 2021/22 Season Part IIl

[My3Sons]

Buffalo finishing out the season with another strong game last night, 5 - 3 win over the Islanders. Dahlin seems to be maturing into a game changer.

But again, how much of this actually carries over, if at all, into next season? It's never been my impression that this end of season stuff is more likely than not to do so.

Some of it will. Generally when good young players turn the corner they don’t look back. Guys who max out with limited tools can slide back as the league catches on (Butcher Smith) but big strong fast guys with skill usually just need a certain amount of experience and to acclimate. BUF has a decent number of guys playing well and buying in after years of frustration. Health will likely be the deciding factor. If their best players have shoulder injuries knee injuries broken jaws broken skulls broken legs and monkey pox it will be a long season for them.

 

[Hisch13r]

Buffalo finishing out the season with another strong game last night, 5 - 3 win over the Islanders. Dahlin seems to be maturing into a game changer.

But again, how much of this actually carries over, if at all, into next season? It's never been my impression that this end of season stuff is more likely than not to do so.

I can't imagine it matters at all. Unless you're like Arizona then every team is going to come into the year excited about the upcoming year and you're not going to be thinking about last year. Sens finished last year super strong and they're still the Sens. The Avs finished out their historically poor year by still playing like trash then made the playoffs the next year.

 

[Mgd31]

Rangers are going to end up playing the inferior team in Pittsburgh than Carolina in Boston, for the first round.

 

[Hisch13r]

Rangers are going to end up playing the inferior team in Pittsburgh than Carolina in Boston, for the first round.

Bring back 1-8. The 4 seed should not be playing the 7

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Philly up 3. Under 10 minutes. Will they blow it?

 

[Eggtimer]

Flyers with the win!
What’s also good is that the Flyers and Hawks play each other tomorrow night. Hoping for Flyers OT win .
Just need Nico to have the monkey pox for the rest of the season . Maybe Bratt too, and we may end up with lotto odds of 3rd ”best”

 

[Mgd31]

Bring back 1-8. The 4 seed should not be playing the 7

They should be playing Tampa haha

 

[Hisch13r]

They should be playing Tampa haha

Maybe I'm too low on TB but I'd still favor the Rangers there but yeah much more preferable.

 

[Hisch13r]

Flyers with the win!
What’s also good is that the Flyers and Hawks play each other tomorrow night. Hoping for Flyers OT win .
Just need Nico to have the monkey pox for the rest of the season . Maybe Bratt too, and we may end up with lotto odds of 3rd ”best”

Maybe we can get 4th if we're lucky. I still don't have much faith in Philly. 3rd I think went out the window yesterday with Seattle blowing a 2 goal lead to Dallas. They'd have been 2 back with 1 in hand rather than 4 back.

 

[Hisch13r]

Spezza's still got a cannon on him. What a f***ing shot to maybe put the Leafs up 2-1 over the Caps. Challenged for offside

Edit: Offside

 

[glenwo2]

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COL is doomed if that happens. Rags in 4.

I think that's DD's actual hand size.

And yeah....lol.

 

[Camille the Eel]

Maybe I'm too low on TB but I'd still favor the Rangers there but yeah much more preferable.

I have a hunch the Rags don’t get past round 1. The opponent just needs to stay out of the penalty box. They will have a hard time prevailing in 5 on 5 play.

But the team I like in the east is Washington. They and Florida.

 

[Hisch13r]

I have a hunch the Rags don’t get past round 1. The opponent just needs to stay out of the penalty box. They will have a hard time prevailing in 5 on 5 play.

But the team I like in the east is Washington. They and Florida.

This hasn't been true since the deadline with their added depth. They've been a great 5v5 team since the deadline. Granted their competition's been soft but they are no long a bad 5v5 team.

I don't think Washington's doing anything. I think Florida walks all over them if they're WC2. If they're WC1 I think Carolina handles them with relative ease and same goes for the Rangers if Washington passes the Pens

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

This hasn't been true since the deadline with their added depth. They've been a great 5v5 team since the deadline. Granted their competition's been soft but they are no long a bad 5v5 team.

I don't think Washington's doing anything. I think Florida walks all over them if they're WC2. If they're WC1 I think Carolina handles them with relative ease and same goes for the Rangers if Washington passes the Pens

Not to mention they have the best goalie in the world but maybe hockey karma gives Pittsburgh this years series versus the Rags after the complete nonsense that team went through with Jarry versus the Islanders last year. Come playoffs, this sport tends to make no sense anyway.

 

[Eggtimer]

I have a hunch the Rags don’t get past round 1. The opponent just needs to stay out of the penalty box. They will have a hard time prevailing in 5 on 5 play.

But the team I like in the east is Washington. They and Florida.

Washington has been average at best for the last 1/2 of the year . They will get steamrolled
Unfortunately, the Rags are not shit in 5v5 anymore . I hate to say it but they might go pretty far if they’re all-world goalie plays like he can

 

[Camille the Eel]

This hasn't been true since the deadline with their added depth. They've been a great 5v5 team since the deadline. Granted their competition's been soft but they are no long a bad 5v5 team.

I don't think Washington's doing anything. I think Florida walks all over them if they're WC2. If they're WC1 I think Carolina handles them with relative ease and same goes for the Rangers if Washington passes the Pens

Washington has been average at best for the last 1/2 of the year . They will get steamrolled
Unfortunately, the Rags are not shit in 5v5 anymore . I hate to say it but they might go pretty far if they’re all-world goalie plays like he can

Looking forward to seeing. And only about a week to wait, right ?

 

[Bleedred]

I think I take Washington's goaltending less seriously than any other playoff team, aside from the obvious Oilers. Not taking into account if Andersen isn't back for the playoffs for Carolina.

Okay, maybe not LA either, I keep forgetting LA in the playoffs is actually a thing.

Samsonov is a BRUTAL netminder that just gives up terrible, backbreaking goals. Vanecek hasn't been good recently, so I'm not sure they'll go with him. They've won some games with Samsonov, but very much in spite of him.

 

[markog]

Chicago beating Philadelphia in OT/SO would be great for tonight.

 

[MachoDiablo]

Bring back 1-8. The 4 seed should not be playing the 7

I genuinely don't get why they went back to the division playoff format without going back to the old schedule, where you play every team in your division more like six times a year instead of four. If you're going to spread out who everyone plays in the regular season, it makes more sense to go back to the regular 1-8 seeding from the 90s-10s, just give the division champs the top two spots.

 

[Triumph]

I genuinely don't get why they went back to the division playoff format without going back to the old schedule, where you play every team in your division more like six times a year instead of four. If you're going to spread out who everyone plays in the regular season, it makes more sense to go back to the regular 1-8 seeding from the 90s-10s, just give the division champs the top two spots.

Playing every team home and away every year sucks. Yeah, you don't see McDavid every year in the East, and you don't see Crosby in the West, but these road trips are generally bad.

They went back to the divisional format because they want repeat matchups. I don't think it has worked out that way.

 

[Eggtimer]

Tonight are we cheering for Flyers or Hawks OT win ?

 

[Hisch13r]

Tonight are we cheering for Flyers or Hawks OT win ?

Gimme a Flyers OT win. After that they have Ottawa and Winnipeg. I'm not sure they get a pt out of either of those games so I'd be happy with just 1 of those 4. If that happens they end up with 64 pts. We're at 62 with 79 games. We'd have the tiebreaker over them with either a regulation or OT win.

For the Hawks they have Buffalo and Vegas. Vegas has Dallas the night before and I think if they lose that then they're officially out. Hopefully they lose that game and then come out looking like shit against the Hawks the next night since they're done.

 

[Eggtimer]

I’d say we almost have to trade up in the draft to get Jiricek. I’d be willing to do so and there actually might be some benefit for the other team to do so. We can assure that team we are not taking a forward. If that team wants to take a forward anyways ,they gain an asset from us and we get our RHD . That is if Slafkovsky is gone already, I can’t see a team passing a chance to draft him and move down. Ideally , it would be a team picking 3/4/5 and us one or two spots down from them.

All that is not going to matter though because we are winning the lotto.

 

[Bad Goalie]

Every team in the bottom lottery spots is praying to be awarded the #1 pick. It is so weird to see the looks of disappointment every time the ball comes up and the team in that slot stays there. I'm sorry but if I put those balls in that bin in my living room and spin them, I'm not going to come up with the spots staying the same the way they do every year in the NHL draft lottery and then suddenly some team out of the picture drops into #1 like it so often has in the years past. The best look that almost came to tears was that of Jim Benning of Vancouver after he had managed his franchise into the pits over the course of 8 years and never got above #5.

With one of his #5s he chose Olli Juolevi (2016) when Tkachuk went #6 and everyone in the world knew he would take Matthew. Juolevi is on his 4th NHL team in 4 pro seasons. after a final year in Jrs and 1 year in the Liiga. Then an injury shortened AHL season and then a full AHL season. That's 4 seasons since being selected for #5 and still no game played in the NHL. Then 2 NHL seasons, one a full yr (23GP) with the Canucks. Finally This season after the Canucks dumped him he has played for 3 different teams only 2 of which were the NHL and a total of 19 more GP.

Meanwhile, Tkachuk played all 6 years directly off the draft stage to the NHL. 379 Pts/428 GP and this season a 100+ Pts season. What a dipstick move by Benning.

One of his #6 selections (2014) was Jake Virtanen. He's playing in the KHL.

IN 2020 he traded away his 1st and 2nd picks and then in 2021 his 1st round selection had also been traded. He did thatcombined with Cap topping trades to get the final pieces for a cup run. They have missed the playoffs in both of the seasons past those moves. In his 8 seasons of drafting he acquired Brock Boeser, Elias Pettersson, and Quinn Hughes with 1st round selections. Boeser is already rumored as trade bait since his cap has outgrown his on ice output.

In his 8 seasons of drafting 6 players are Canucks. Thatcher Demko (2014 RD2), Brock Boeser (2015 RD1), Elias Pettersson (2017 RD1), Quinn Hughes (2018 RD 1) Vasili Podkozlin (2019 RD1), and Nils Hoglander (2019 RD 2)are full-time Canucks.

They have high hopes for Jack Rathbone (2017 RD 4) He's 22 with 2 pro seasons and 17 NHL games played. He suffered an injury this season which cost him a large portion of the season. Since his return to the Abbotsford lineup he is showing that potential in a big way, 40 Pts/6 GP. The problem, if you can call it that, is he is a LH puck rushing D-man with great potential as a PP QB. Many see him as a redundant player with Hughes already in that role. Feel he may a better trade asset.

William Lockwood (2016, RD 3) A 23 yr-old RW (turns 24 in June) 2nd year pro. Both spent mostly in the AHL, but has 15 NHL GP. A very speedy player with not so hot puck skills and a very poor finish. Many see him as an energy line forechecker, PKer. Time will tell here.

Michael DiPietro (2017 RD 3). A 22 yr-old (turns 23 in June) goalie in his 3rd pro season. He had a very good rookie season (2019-20) in AHL Utica. Then in 2020-21he rode around on the Vancouver Taxi for all but 4 AHL games. A wasted season saw him come out in 2021-22 very rusty and decidedly off his game. He has put himself back together in the past 2 months and is once again looking promising, but likely needs to be the #1 in Abby next season like he became in Utica his rookie season.

Jett Woo (2018 RD 2) A 21 yr-old RD (turns 22 in July) in his 2nd pro season. He is a defensive D-man 12 Pts/67 GP. He plays a spot every NHL tgeam is looking to fill, but he has not been super impressive. Skates well, plays physically, can move the puck, but has been error prone as well as injury prone.

Danila Klimovich (2021 RD 1) He started this season in the AHL at 18 and turned 19 in Jan. 18Pts in 59 GP to date. Lots of development to go with this kid.

This team stacks up with the Devils in terms of years of bottom feeding. The Devils are much younger, have a much deeper pipeline, have plenty of cap space while Vancouver is spent to the cap and has long-term expensive contracts coupled with players to be re-sign and no cap to fit them in,. Devils have a roster heavily home grown while the Canucks have been acquired from all over the place at much higher costs and many of them frankly are not of the talent you win with. The Devils have the nucleus of a strong top 4 on D with potential good ones in the very near future coming from their own pipeline while the Canucks D is in chaos.

Both franchises feel they are on the brink of becoming a player on the NHL scene. I think I'd put my money on the Devils provided they fix the fiasco they have going on between the pipes. The Canucks have a Vezina candidate who wins games by himself and almost always gives his team a chance to win. The fact that they haven't speaks volumes of the team they put on the ice night after night. The Devils are actually an NHL team that doesn't ewven have a reputable #1. They have kids in the pipeline who are definitely not ready to backstop an NHL team into the thick of an NHL playoff race. Goal is the #1 priority if the Devils are to ever make any serious noise.

 

[Eggtimer]

Every team in the bottom lottery spots is praying to be awarded the #1 pick. It is so weird to see the looks of disappointment every time the ball comes up and the team in that slot stays there. I'm sorry but if I put those balls in that bin in my living room and spin them, I'm not going to come up with the spots staying the same the way they do every year in the NHL draft lottery and then suddenly some team out of the picture drops into #1 like it so often has in the years past. The best look that almost came to tears was that of Jim Benning of Vancouver after he had managed his franchise into the pits over the course of 8 years and never got above #5.

With one of his #5s he chose Olli Juolevi (2016) when Tkachuk went #6 and everyone in the world knew he would take Matthew. Juolevi is on his 4th NHL team in 4 pro seasons. after a final year in Jrs and 1 year in the Liiga. Then an injury shortened AHL season and then a full AHL season. That's 4 seasons since being selected for #5 and still no game played in the NHL. Then 2 NHL seasons, one a full yr (23GP) with the Canucks. Finally This season after the Canucks dumped him he has played for 3 different teams only 2 of which were the NHL and a total of 19 more GP.

Meanwhile, Tkachuk played all 6 years directly off the draft stage to the NHL. 379 Pts/428 GP and this season a 100+ Pts season. What a dipstick move by Benning.

One of his #6 selections (2014) was Jake Virtanen. He's playing in the KHL.

IN 2020 he traded away his 1st and 2nd picks and then in 2021 his 1st round selection had also been traded. He did thatcombined with Cap topping trades to get the final pieces for a cup run. They have missed the playoffs in both of the seasons past those moves. In his 8 seasons of drafting he acquired Brock Boeser, Elias Pettersson, and Quinn Hughes with 1st round selections. Boeser is already rumored as trade bait since his cap has outgrown his on ice output.

In his 8 seasons of drafting 6 players are Canucks. Thatcher Demko (2014 RD2), Brock Boeser (2015 RD1), Elias Pettersson (2017 RD1), Quinn Hughes (2018 RD 1) Vasili Podkozlin (2019 RD1), and Nils Hoglander (2019 RD 2)are full-time Canucks.

They have high hopes for Jack Rathbone (2017 RD 4) He's 22 with 2 pro seasons and 17 NHL games played. He suffered an injury this season which cost him a large portion of the season. Since his return to the Abbotsford lineup he is showing that potential in a big way, 40 Pts/6 GP. The problem, if you can call it that, is he is a LH puck rushing D-man with great potential as a PP QB. Many see him as a redundant player with Hughes already in that role. Feel he may a better trade asset.

William Lockwood (2016, RD 3) A 23 yr-old RW (turns 24 in June) 2nd year pro. Both spent mostly in the AHL, but has 15 NHL GP. A very speedy player with not so hot puck skills and a very poor finish. Many see him as an energy line forechecker, PKer. Time will tell here.

Michael DiPietro (2017 RD 3). A 22 yr-old (turns 23 in June) goalie in his 3rd pro season. He had a very good rookie season (2019-20) in AHL Utica. Then in 2020-21he rode around on the Vancouver Taxi for all but 4 AHL games. A wasted season saw him come out in 2021-22 very rusty and decidedly off his game. He has put himself back together in the past 2 months and is once again looking promising, but likely needs to be the #1 in Abby next season like he became in Utica his rookie season.

Jett Woo (2018 RD 2) A 21 yr-old RD (turns 22 in July) in his 2nd pro season. He is a defensive D-man 12 Pts/67 GP. He plays a spot every NHL tgeam is looking to fill, but he has not been super impressive. Skates well, plays physically, can move the puck, but has been error prone as well as injury prone.

Danila Klimovich (2021 RD 1) He started this season in the AHL at 18 and turned 19 in Jan. 18Pts in 59 GP to date. Lots of development to go with this kid.

This team stacks up with the Devils in terms of years of bottom feeding. The Devils are much younger, have a much deeper pipeline, have plenty of cap space while Vancouver is spent to the cap and has long-term expensive contracts coupled with players to be re-sign and no cap to fit them in,. Devils have a roster heavily home grown while the Canucks have been acquired from all over the place at much higher costs and many of them frankly are not of the talent you win with. The Devils have the nucleus of a strong top 4 on D with potential good ones in the very near future coming from their own pipeline while the Canucks D is in chaos.

Both franchises feel they are on the brink of becoming a player on the NHL scene. I think I'd put my money on the Devils provided they fix the fiasco they have going on between the pipes. The Canucks have a Vezina candidate who wins games by himself and almost always gives his team a chance to win. The fact that they haven't speaks volumes of the team they put on the ice night after night. The Devils are actually an NHL team that doesn't ewven have a reputable #1. They have kids in the pipeline who are definitely not ready to backstop an NHL team into the thick of an NHL playoff race. Goal is the #1 priority if the Devils are to ever make any serious noise.

Benning’s picks were either huge busts or almost steals. No real In-between. It was massive for them to hit Pettersson ,Demko , Hughes or they would be incredibly bad.