OOT Scoreboard 2021/22 Season Part IIl
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- May 1, 2011
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Whoever is controlling the NHL app and the goal videos can get f***ed.
I like to gradually review the goals throughout the night and not cram everything at the end of the evening (I used to do that when I first started doing this) and there's goals that were scored an hour ago in real time that aren't posted yet, in pretty much all of the games, leaving me to have to go through twitter to look everything up.
I like to gradually review the goals throughout the night and not cram everything at the end of the evening (I used to do that when I first started doing this) and there's goals that were scored an hour ago in real time that aren't posted yet, in pretty much all of the games, leaving me to have to go through twitter to look everything up.
Eggtimer
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He's very weird.
He's not showing up with a high percentage of goals stoppable in any of these last 3 years. He (along with Cal Petersen in LA) have a ridiculously low percentage of goals that I've counted stoppable this year to go along with their ridiculously low (but not Devils goalie low) save percentages.
When analyzing Gibson, I do see things in his game where I think ''Yeah, looks like he has no chance on that goal, but I can see why he probably does'', but I don't factor this into my goals stoppable analysis, as this is clearly confirmation bias. When I see a goalie performing poorly in save percentage, but not allowing a very high number of goals stoppable on my count, I do tend to analyze their play, but I separate it from my goals stoppable percentage and I grade everybody the same.
Now one guy that's very weird and sometimes hard to ignore is Jonathan Quick. He doesn't allow A LOT of goals I count stoppable (in some of these years he has though), but you can clearly see goals happen on Quick that he looks like he has no chance on, but due to his style of play, these turn into goals and they're probably not goals on good goalies or even most goalies. He stays down on his ass or belly for a lot of the game. Throws himself out of position terribly (I nailed him on one the other night because it was so f***ing ridiculous how out of position he was and he got scored on from behind the net on a lucky, fluky play, but his inability to get back into proper position was horrendous) and constantly does this and it leads to many unnecessary goal mouth scrambles and eventually goals on some of them.
Scott Wedgewood is another one that sometimes has this questionable way of playing and flopping and throwing himself out of position and making goals that are probably stoppable look like they're not stoppable. I separate this when doing my goals against reviews and percentages tallying, but it is something I notice.
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What are the most important advanced stats in your guys opinion to indicate how good a goalie is ? How actual save % is in comparison to expected ? Or ?
I’m trying to get a handle on Gibson . Is Stolarz ‘s expected save % close to his or is it higher due to lesser competition or ?
Not the greatest attribute to have as a pro athlete but I think Gibson almost pouts and somewhat gives up at times when his team is playing shitty in front of him . I get being frustrated and wanting to win but regardless you should be busting your ass all the time no matter the situation .
I’m trying to get a handle on Gibson . Is Stolarz ‘s expected save % close to his or is it higher due to lesser competition or ?
Not the greatest attribute to have as a pro athlete but I think Gibson almost pouts and somewhat gives up at times when his team is playing shitty in front of him . I get being frustrated and wanting to win but regardless you should be busting your ass all the time no matter the situation .
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I actually don’t check out the expected goal stats or expected save percentage too often, but I definitely believe they’re a good indicator. Gibson’s actual save percentage has been lower than the team average for two of the last three years. The one year it wasn’t was last year when Gibson was significantly better than a decrepit 40 year old Ryan Miller. Although Miller had a higher save percentage than Gibson the year before (not by much) just as Stolarz has this year and Dostal (only slightly for him) does as well in very small sample size.
Granted, they do have better save percentages in far fewer games played and they could be working to their advantage. Kind of like quite a few Marty’s backups (in barely any games played at all) had way higher save percentages than he did. I think it’s entirely realistic to believe that if Stolarz played as many games as Gibson that his save percentage would probably not be as high as it is now.
For what it’s worth, I thought the one goal Gibson has allowed tonight was a stoppable one for sure. Short side, he sees it the entire way and if he didn’t, he definitely should have. A screen is not acceptable on that one.
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Clam Jensen
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The Flyers are astoundingly bad. Like, they look like they’ve never played hockey before.
SteveCangialosi123
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Maybe Chicago can actually win a damn game tonight against Arizona? And they’re not even tanking, they don’t own their pick.
Monsieur Verdoux
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They play against ARI, LAK, SJ, PHI, VGK and BUF, so I hope they can get some points in their last games.
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Yeah, this is their time to shine. You can do it fellas, the Coyotes are an AHL/NCAA/NHL retirement home hybrid team at this point.
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God Lord, the Philly vs SJ game is also going to be a treat. The Sharks were 0-6-4 in their last 10 games when they played the Blue Jackets last night but managed to win 3-2.
Have anyone been watching these SJ and Chi games?
They're two of the 3 worst teams (with Arizona naturally) to close the season. They shouldn't be this bad and they have vets that I would have expected to keep the team from totally quitting for the season.
They're two of the 3 worst teams (with Arizona naturally) to close the season. They shouldn't be this bad and they have vets that I would have expected to keep the team from totally quitting for the season.
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Who are the Hawks using for their goalies ? They may have shittier goaltending than us right now .
They're definitely really bad, but that goal in particular is mostly on Yandle falling down. His poor defense partner gets handcuffed suddenly trying to cover 3 Leafs at once.
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It's all that iron man, it can haul you down.
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Man, the Panthers must really be shaking in their boots at the thought of having to play Samsonov in the first round.
Probably not as much as the Bruins who are really scared of the Capitals passing them for the first wild card with Samsonov leading the charge.
Probably not as much as the Bruins who are really scared of the Capitals passing them for the first wild card with Samsonov leading the charge.
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To be fair, the goal on Lehner was a BAD one. Though according to some, it’s not allowed to be considered a bad goal because the initial shot was from Ovechkin and it leaked through him enough for Kuznetsov to put it over the goal line.
But never fear, because lucky for them, the Dadonov goal on Samsonov was the softy of the night.
Samsonov is a f***ing terrible goal that gives up brutal backbreaking goals.
But here’s Ovechkin to tie it as I’m typing this. And yes, that’s a stoppable goal on Thompson off his glove and in.
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If Chicago manages to blow this game after having 3-1 lead because they gave up goals to a college kid, a 35 year old Anton Stralman and then some other spare part, I will crown them Kings of the Losers. (I’m not watching this, since I’m not a mental patient, but the scoreboard watch has been annoying.)
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