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I tend not to, I use we when refering to us fans. But not for the team, I always use the Oilers, as I have no involvement with the team. Really not much if anything I do or have ever done will effect the team.
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I tend not to, I use we when refering to us fans. But not for the team, I always use the Oilers, as I have no involvement with the team. Really not much if anything I do or have ever done will effect the team.
VainGretzky
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When we use it is the term we the fans of the Oilers, nobody should have a problem with this no different than using it as we Canadians we Albertans we Edmontonians. Free speech is a staple and you're free to cancel yours but no one can cancel mine
Paralyzer
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Do you honestly think they can read? One guy said he read HFBoards Oilers Forum, and we are saying Corey Perry only joined us because of McDavid and his awesome skillz. If you from CP is reading this, educate yourself more and READ BETWEEN THE LINES and not AROUND THEM.
I don't know if you guys heard this, but I thought you might finf it interesting.
FlameChampion
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I didn’t watch the video but read the coles notes on the main board. We will never really know what he did or didn’t do, 100%.
I just find the whole thing kinda bizarre. I imagine that there is a large percentage of hockey players and athletes in general that have alcohol and drug issues. This is the community/culture that makes fun of Hamilton because he likes to go to the library.
Its already been stated that he didn’t do anything illegal. Bettman who obviously knows the full story was ok with him signing a new contract hours after it being terminated.
Its not to say some issues aren’t important, but the fact that it wasn’t illegal and we will never know the 100% truth, its pretty much a waste of time to discuss it.
Fair enough. The part that I found the most compelling was that his actions were not so egregious that other teams would have terminated his contract, but that because this is Chicago with all the off ice issues that they've had to publicly deal with they felt that they had to show zero tolerance and drop the hammer on him. That does make sense to me and does make me feel better about bringing him in.
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Can't wait until he gets into game action and we can just discuss Corey Perry the hockey player... and leave all this off ice stuff behind
TheNumber4
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Wow. Finally it’s been revealed. So essentially it was more a Chicago issue than a Perry issue. I won’t call it a nothing burger but it’s very close to.
This matches the NHLPA and NHL’s reaction which essentially boiled down to a Big MEH.
I would say the real scandal here is that due to Chicago having a dirty history they were allowed to just cancel a 4M contact out of thin air?
Honestly I feel bad for Perry here. The “crime” does not fit the punishment.
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Dont feel bad for Perry. In every way possible this really couldnt have worked out better for him.
TheNumber4
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Only cause he had the reputation to get another job on a contender, if this was just any typical bottom 6er they’d be losing their contract and ability to find a job in this league cause of the HAWKS own shitty reputation.
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Also, for shame on Leafs homer Nick Kypreos who tried to pass judgement on Holland and the entirety of Edmonton media for not digging into this more, even though Holland literally talked to everyone and anyone that actually knew what happened of which there wasn’t many. Only Kyle Davidson, Perry, Bettman, Daley, a couple of NBC employees knew about what happened, and Kypreos threw the entire Edmonton media and by proxy its fans under the bus. Apparently we don’t care, cause he plays hockey good, and we don’t care to know what actually happened. This is the Leaf’s propaganda network Sportsnet in its finest form. f*** Kypreos too and f*** the Hawks.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, listen to all bullshit these 3 Leafs homers spewed about Holland, Edmontons Media, and the Edmonton market:
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, listen to all bullshit these 3 Leafs homers spewed about Holland, Edmontons Media, and the Edmonton market:
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I find it highly dubious that the Blackhawks would get away with canceling a player's contract because he hit on a chick at a party, NHLPA would be all over that. Mike Richards got arrested with drugs at a border crossing and the Kings still had to pay him in a grievance suit, even the Sharks had to settle up with Kane, but they let the Perry situation go with nary a peep? Something more would have to be going on, maybe not in a sense Perry did something worse than what has been reported, but instead an agreement between player and team or the NHLPA behind the scenes or something.
It would be such a bad precedent if a team could cancel a guaranteed contract over something like this, teams would probably start hiring escorts and have them chase around overpaid players to dump their contracts if it were true.
It would be such a bad precedent if a team could cancel a guaranteed contract over something like this, teams would probably start hiring escorts and have them chase around overpaid players to dump their contracts if it were true.
The flipside I would say to that though is if something really serious happened, I would think criminal charges or even at least police would have been called.
The cops were called to the hotel Nichushkin was at for example.
I think Perry is just sorta embarrassed by what went down and called off the NHLPA dogs. I mean yeah he could probably file a grievance and take it in front of a judge, but that would also mean having to air an embarrassing moment in public and dragging your family through that and I don't think he's that hard up for cash that he wants to do that.
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Richards was caught with a prescribed drug that became an epidemic through lying, deceitful, illegal and unethical marketing practices. It is quite possible he was prescribed this highly addictive drug by team or teams health professionals. NHLPA grieved to resolve the matter as they absolutely should have given the catastrophic human damage and deaths caused by this drug. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/mike-richards-drug-charges-stayed-1.3462002
Perry's situation, if innuendo is true, clearly would violate team HR policies and for an organization trying to rebuild its public image after burying a sexual predator, they made the decision to act. NHLPA in its role as employee advocate clearly want to fight this to prevent any precedence set by its labour 'partner.' Especially with the newish President who is riding a big win with Babcock and mobilizing player support with a new CBA negotiation coming soon into focus. Perry's like a $100 million player who likely wants an embarrassing misstep dead and buried (and quite likely thinking of his own Homefront's considerations of Mrs. Perry and a little Netfront Jr.)
Very different situations though common in that it is always expected that an NHLPA will go to the mat to protect player rights against its cartel team ownership group. Important historic context is a different time and era where the NHL and NHLPA were disgusting partners in colluding to suppress player injury claims, well being and financial considerations with Eagleson.
Perry's situation was a self induced mistake. Tragically the benefit of history shows how malpracticing doctors and medical professionals were complicit in prescribing a lethally addictive drug that destroyed endless lives including a warrior hockey player who left everything on the ice to the detriment of his health (and reputation).
TheNumber4
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Friedman already report the NHLPA did not think what Perry did constituted contract cancellation. And they don’t like the precedent set by it. And they would likely appeal the decision. Unless Perry himself puts a stop to it.
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Kypreos's take reeked of media people wanting their juicy story, of course pretending that there was some moral requirement for this to be made public.
joestevens29
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If Corey Perry was what you say, he probably isn't even in the league to begin with and he'd for sure not have gotten a 4mil contract with heavy bonus
The whole situation is just bizarre, any other team in the league and at worse he goes to get help. Any other 4th liner on Chicago does this and they are probably done for the year, but then the NHLPA is probably grieving this a long time ago.
The big thing for me in all of this is it needs to be settled at the NHL and NHLPA level. Yes this was a situation where Chicago probably has no problems paying Perry whatever he's owed and it has very little impact to them from a cap standpoint. However, last thing you need is teams that either have no cap space or are just cheap starting to do this to players.
joestevens29
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Holland was very clear about who he talked to. Gregor said before we signed him that he had talk to people in the know and while what Perry was wrong in his opinion it wasn't really something that would discourage him from signing Perry.
The other thing is did Kypreos not listen to the pressor? It's obvious media were digging they just wanted Perry to come out and say exactly what happened.
You just know Perry will play Saturday and we finally lose a game and there will be a million questions about how he screwed up the locker room.
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I doubt it. Corey Perry is in the room now and they won.
Fourier
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Kypreos has obviously bought into the TO media schtick with the bad mouthing of any player that decides on a team other than the Leafs. These guys essentially replaced Tim and Friends during hockey season. For me that was a massive step back for the network. But unless I missed a message somewhere they never asked me for my opinion.
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I do listen to this pod daily (I come for the hot takes, but stay for the absurdity). Kyper and Sam McKee are unabashed Leaf taint lickers, Bourne is a bit more objective. Kyper likes to bash TML/MLSE management to pretend he’s not biased but he’s not.
Even yesterday he talked about the alumni events he’s doing for the Laffs during the ASG week as a former Leaf player, like it’s some badge of honour. Won a SC ring in NYR by riding on Messiers coat tails is about his biggest/only claim to fame.
