Confirmed with Link: Oilers sign Corey Perry (775k AAV, 225k for 10GP, 50k for winning Round II, 50k for winning Round III)

[MinisterOfSinister]

Well, flames fans seem to be taking the news particularly hard.
Guess you could say I'm thrilled.

 

[Drivesaitl]

perfectenschlag

Clarice, won't you stay for dinner?

His eyes kind of scare me. haha

 

[Da McBomb]

Why do CP posters keep comparing their Killington/Dube situations to Kane/Perry situations? They are completely different scenarios. They keep saying the Flames are some highly ethic moral team that allows their players to deal with mental issues while the Oilers are scum of the earth organization bringing in players like Kane and Perry. Do they really think that if any Oiler player wanted to take a mental leave of absence that the Oilers would deny that from happening or something? What a bunch of clowns on that site.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Idk man. I think Holland should get some credit for always pouncing on these situations. Even going back to Detroit - I used to think "man it's so nice that all these players fall into Detroit's lap, must be nice..."

But honestly... 5 to 10 teams wanted Kane. 5 to 10 teams wanted Perry. They came here.

Holland deserves some flak, but I think he deserves some credit too.

Indeed. You have to have the balls to make the move and hire the controversial player. It can go the wrong way when you do this sort of thing, then it falls on you. I thought Kane was a good bet and I think Corey Perry is a good bet. But a lot of teams, most, would be reluctant on both. Ironically one of the things they would be worried about is fan reaction. So that being how readily the Oilers fans accept players that have had a few wrinkles this makes us look GOOD. We are forgiving people on the player issues of Kassian, Kane, Perry coming here. Thats what it looks like to me. I'd rather be part of that fanbase than all the Cancellers.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Why do CP posters keep comparing their Killington/Dube situations to Kane/Perry situations? They are completely different scenarios. They keep saying the Flames are some highly ethic moral team that allows their players to deal with mental issues while the Oilers are scum of the earth organization bringing in players like Kane and Perry. Do they really think that if any Oiler player wanted to take a mental leave of absence that the Oilers would deny that from happening or something? What a bunch of clowns on that site.

I don't even know how to parse that hypocrisy. I'm not clear on what you're saying however. I think theres similarity in taking on players that have had notable issues. In anycase it doesn't always have to be derision. The Flames handling of Kylington is decent. They dealt well with that particular situation. Its OK for them to acknowledge as well how many players the Oilers org have salvaged and given 2nd chances. See players through their struggles and the reward can be sweet. I'm saying that with Campbell too ftr.

 

[Da McBomb]

I don't even know how to parse that hypocrisy. I'm not clear on what you're saying however. I think theres similarity in taking on players that have had notable issues. In anycase it doesn't always have to be derision. The Flames handling of Kylington is decent. They dealt well with that particular situation. Its OK for them to acknowledge as well how many players the Oilers org have salvaged and given 2nd chances. See players through their struggles and the reward can be sweet. I'm saying that with Campbell too ftr.

I'm not saying anything bad about the way the Flames handled Killington at all... I agree that they handled that situation very well. But its not like the Oilers or any other team for that matter wouldn't do the same thing for any of their players if the same thing happened here. But they are using the Killington example to compare it with the signing of Kane/Perry... which are two totally different situations.

 

[powerserge]

Indeed. You have to have the balls to make the move and hire the controversial player. It can go the wrong way when you do this sort of thing, then it falls on you. I thought Kane was a good bet and I think Corey Perry is a good bet. But a lot of teams, most, would be reluctant on both. Ironically one of the things they would be worried about is fan reaction. So that being how readily the Oilers fans accept players that have had a few wrinkles this makes us look GOOD. We are forgiving people on the player issues of Kassian, Kane, Perry coming here. Thats what it looks like to me. I'd rather be part of that fanbase than all the Cancellers.

Indeed, the other and probably main thing are the distractions or lack thereof. Go to the biggest Can, big US cities where there are constant distractions can be hard on a player trying to focus on hockey. In Edmonton, it's cold, there is less trouble to get into, you can be safer with your family if you decide to move there and you are playing with some great players moving in the right direction to win a cup.

It's not just a change of scenery for these players, it's the right change of scenery.

 

[Drivesaitl]

So f***ing lame that it's not on oilers.com and is instead on the pay crap. Nice to look after all of the fans and not just the ones that are quick to fork over cash because they have it burning a hole in their pocket.

I'd like to see the team start to be more open about practices and such as well. At Rexall you could just go to a lot of the practices, TC, etc. Didn't need to sign up, get paper tickets etc. Just show up. The org used to feed people a free breakfast and pop and popcorn.

Seems weird Edmontonians paid so dearly for the new rink and yet we have next to no access to it and all the practices there are closed. In this City you used to just show up WEM and could see any of the practices there.

Would love to be able to go to the practices again. You learn more about the team and coaches, management, even press doing that.

I'm not saying anything bad about the way the Flames handled Killington at all... I agree that they handled that situation very well. But its not like the Oilers or any other team for that matter wouldn't do the same thing for any of their players if the same thing happened here. But they are using the Killington example to compare it with the signing of Kane/Perry... which are two totally different situations.

Thanks. ftr I was saying the Flames fans reactions is hypocrisy. Helping people through their recovery is commendable, for any org. Those seeking to lambast orgs for the same are dying on strange hills. In the end we are human, imperfect, and often full of issues. We make the best of our lives and ideally try to help others to.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Indeed, the other and probably main thing are the distractions or lack thereof. Go to the biggest Can, big US cities where there are constant distractions can be hard on a player trying to focus on hockey. In Edmonton, it's cold, there is less trouble to get into, you can be safer with your family if you decide to move there and you are playing with some great players moving in the right direction to win a cup.

It's not just a change of scenery for these players, it's the right change of scenery.

Yep. Took all kinds of balls for Perry to show up in a hockey mad market and he's already got a taste for that as per the presser yesterday. He's brave and continuing to be that. One thing I'd wonder about however, and this refers to Kassian as well, is that in sobriety some of the rage a person formerly felt starts to dissipate in recovery. It was a problem for Kassian sometimes as when he was a crazy drinking broncing bull he never had to worry about how to wind himself up. he would be violent on ice in an instant. When you get sober some of that rage and self loathing that causes such anger starts to go away.

So then the player has to manufacture some of the intensity. The compete level of Corey Perry was to me along with his hands the most admirable part of this game.

 

[Da McBomb]

Thanks. ftr I was saying the Flames fans reactions is hypocrisy. Helping people through their recovery is commendable, for any org. Those seeking to lambast orgs for the same are dying on strange hills. In the end we are human, imperfect, and often full of issues. We make the best of our lives and ideally try to help others to.

We turned Kassian's life around for the better. Also turned Kane's life around for the better. Yet we are the scumbag organization. The hypocrisy.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

We turned Kassian's life around for the better. Also turned Kane's life around for the better. Yet we are the scumbag organization. The hypocrisy.

Don't forget Craig MacTavish as the OG in that.

 

[powerserge]

Yep. Took all kinds of balls for Perry to show up in a hockey mad market and he's already got a taste for that as per the presser yesterday. He's brave and continuing to be that. One thing I'd wonder about however, and this refers to Kassian as well, is that in sobriety some of the rage a person formerly felt starts to dissipate in recovery. It was a problem for Kassian sometimes as when he was a crazy drinking broncing bull he never had to worry about how to wind himself up. he would be violent on ice in an instant. When you get sober some of that rage and self loathing that causes such anger starts to go away.

So then the player has to manufacture some of the intensity. The compete level of Corey Perry was to me along with his hands the most admirable part of this game.

I'm not sure if Kass had a family and kid back then. Perry has a 6 year old and there are more resources for mental health and other issues compared to back then. Ten years ago, fans thought these players, almost all of them lived their best lives and such matters were not discussed. Now they are, Perry admitting it and going through a 2 month process (and continuing) should help him focus on hockey. The place and environment will help immensely as well. The strong group of now leaders on our favorite team will help as well. We have an established culture with such players as well so we are more equipped to deal with it. Makes sense he signed with us rather than going to another good team with sunny weather or grey skies that can follow him.

 

[TheNumber4]

Respected Insider Frank Serravelli:
Multiple teams interested in Perry

Respected insider Elliotte Friedman:
Multiple teams interested in Perry

Respected insider Dave Pagnotta:
Multiple teams interested in Perry

Respected insider Chris Johnson:
Multiple teams interested in Perry

NHL GM Ken Holland who actually negotiated the signing:
Multiple teams interested in Perry

NHL coach Knoblauch:
Multiple teams interested in Perry

NHL GM Kyle Davidson:
Paid 4M to get Perry to sign on a non-contender, a number that indicates multiple teams were interested in Perry

Biased Leaf’s Nut Hugger Nick Kypreos working at Leaf’s Propaganda Network Sportsnet 10 days before Perry signed:
People aren’t doing their JOBS if there’s no interest in Perry. And Leaf’s should be interested.

Biased Leaf’s Nut Hugger Nick Kypreos working at Leaf’s Propaganda Network Sportsnet after secretly crying in the washroom over Perry signing in Edmonton:
I heard there was no interest in Perry especially from the Leafs.

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

^^^Corey Perry himself: received offers from multiple teams

 

[guymez]

We turned Kassian's life around for the better. Also turned Kane's life around for the better. Yet we are the scumbag organization. The hypocrisy.

I feel compelled to comment on this.
Please dont take this personally but the usage of 'we' has to be a part of my comment as well.

We (fans) did virtually nothing except support the team which is something we would be doing anyway...whether they signed Perry or not.

The Oilers really didnt turn anyones life around either.
What the team did do was provide Kane ( and especially Kassian) an opportunity for redemption which is something I (as a fan) completely agree with and support. I would guess that most Oilers fans feel this way.

The player does all the work to take advantage of that and turn his career and his life around. Kane and especially Kassian made the most of that opportunity and the Oilers benefited as well.

It looks like Perry may be in the same situation although he has already had a wildly successful career. If it ended tomorrow it would be a more successful career than the vast majority of NHL players.

This decision by the team provides Perry with an opportunity to use hockey to help him turn his personal life into something more productive.
The upside...they may get a very good bottom 6 player.

Lets be clear though...if there was no benefit for the team they wouldnt be doing this.
They are a business..not a charity.

This has the potential to be a win / win.
Its completely up to Corey Perry.

Im pulling for him primarily because I really appreciate and respect when people conquer their challenges and also because I want to see this team succeed.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Good signing. Need a little more size, skill and speed for the bottom six. He gives two of the three.
Any idea if the 10 game bonus applies to this year's cap?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Good signing. Need a little more size, skill and speed for the bottom six. He gives two of the three.
Any idea if the 10 game bonus applies to this year's cap?

All of it does, as far as I know.

 

[FunkyChicken]

All of it does, as far as I know.

Cap is going to be tight.

 

[MessierII]

Good signing. Need a little more size, skill and speed for the bottom six. He gives two of the three.
Any idea if the 10 game bonus applies to this year's cap?

Bonus money can carry over to next years cap if you go over. We’ll go over just on browns bonus and this one as well.

 

[MoneyGuy]

Reading the CP thread and what makes this more delightful is that they’re so triggered by the signing.

 

[Da McBomb]

I feel compelled to comment on this.
Please dont take this personally but the usage of 'we' has to be a part of my comment as well.

We (fans) did virtually nothing except support the team which is something we would be doing anyway...whether they signed Perry or not.

The Oilers really didnt turn anyones life around either.
What the team did do was provide Kane ( and especially Kassian) an opportunity for redemption which is something I (as a fan) completely agree with and support. I would guess that most Oilers fans feel this way.

The player does all the work to take advantage of that and turn his career and his life around. Kane and especially Kassian made the most of that opportunity and the Oilers benefited as well.

It looks like Perry may be in the same situation although he has already had a wildly successful career. If it ended tomorrow it would be a more successful career than the vast majority of NHL players.

This decision by the team provides Perry with an opportunity to use hockey to help him turn his personal life into something more productive.
The upside...they may get a very good bottom 6 player.

Lets be clear though...if there was no benefit for the team they wouldnt be doing this.
They are a business..not a charity.

This has the potential to be a win / win.
Its completely up to Corey Perry.

Im pulling for him primarily because I really appreciate and respect when people conquer their challenges and also because I want to see this team succeed.

Obviously when I say 'we'.... I don't mean we as fans.. I mean we as The Oilers.

And yes the Oilers did provide him a lifeline by giving him a second opportunity in his career... which is huge in itself because people's careers are a big part of their lives and getting that back on track is a huge part of helping them with their mental health. And behind the scenes you will never know what the players and organization did to help him along the journey. Yes the player does all the work to better himself... But the team also put him in the right environment to make it work.

And yes obviously the Oilers are not a charity and are in the business to win a Stanley Cup so you're not really telling me anything new here. But you can't discredit what they did for the player just because the Oilers benefited from the situation as well

 

[guymez]

Obviously when I say 'we'.... I don't mean we as fans.. I mean we as The Oilers.

And yes the Oilers did provide him a lifeline by giving him a second opportunity in his career... which is huge in itself because people's careers are a big part of their lives and getting that back on track is a huge part of helping them with their mental health. And behind the scenes you will never know what the players and organization did to help him along the journey. Yes the player does all the work to better himself... But the team also put him in the right environment to make it work.

And yes obviously the Oilers are not a charity and are in the business to win a Stanley Cup so you're not really telling me anything new here. But you can't discredit what they did for the player just because the Oilers benefited from the situation as well

I am not trying to discredit anything. I am just trying to suggest that what they did shouldnt be overstated as being more than it was.

My main point was that the Oilers gave these players an opportunity which had the potential to benefit the team (at low cost) as well.

If that arrangement didnt benefit the team in some way that opportunity would never have been presented.

With regards to 'we'. I know what you meant. Its a pet peeve of mine when fans use the word 'we' when they talk about the team.

 

[VainGretzky]

Obviously when I say 'we'.... I don't mean we as fans.. I mean we as The Oilers.

And yes the Oilers did provide him a lifeline by giving him a second opportunity in his career... which is huge in itself because people's careers are a big part of their lives and getting that back on track is a huge part of helping them with their mental health. And behind the scenes you will never know what the players and organization did to help him along the journey. Yes the player does all the work to better himself... But the team also put him in the right environment to make it work.

And yes obviously the Oilers are not a charity and are in the business to win a Stanley Cup so you're not really telling me anything new here. But you can't discredit what they did for the player just because the Oilers benefited from the situation as well

We will continue to use we

 

[Oilhawks]

Well, flames fans seem to be taking the news particularly hard.
Guess you could say I'm thrilled.

How it feels reading Conspiracy Puck since the Oilers broke their welfare-ass team two playoffs ago

 

[MinisterOfSinister]

How it feels reading Conspiracy Puck since the Oilers broke their welfare-ass team two playoffs ago

It's 100% Conspiracy Puck.
Today it's the league conspiring to hand the Oil a cup.
Tomorrow: lizard people