Confirmed with Link: Oilers sign Connor Brown to 1-year incentive laden deal ($775K caphit, potentially $3.25M in bonuses)

[tiger_80]

With Brown we even had the out after his injury at the 9 game mark. He was bad enough early in the season dealing with his previous season injury. But then he had a fresh injury basically making a bounce back all but impossible

The possible optimistic outcome is that he does slowly shake off all the rust and shows his previous ability come playoff time. That would forgive all, just in that playoffs are what really matters.

Also our team is pretty much locked up for next season so it's not like the cap overage will hurt us too bad. We cant commit that space long term anyway because of the pricey extensions coming the following years.

It just sucks that we won't have that space to play with, and our goaltending might be where we need some addressing

It will hurt because they are pressed against the cap this year while Brown makes 750k against the cap. Next year to fit the extra 3 million, they probably will have to replace Foegele and Ceci with guys making league minimum.

 

[Mr Positive]

It will hurt because they are pressed against the cap this year while Brown makes 750k against the cap. Next year to fit the extra 3 million, they probably will have to replace Foegele and Ceci with guys making league minimum.

There is cap increase that will cover the overage. Foegele will have to be re signed but shouldn't be expensive. Basically everyone else is signed up already (or should be simple to re sign) so there is a decent baseline here where we at least get to have the same team next year. There can be some wiggle room as well to make adjustments.

 

[Soundwave]

There is cap increase that will cover the overage. Foegele will have to be re signed but shouldn't be expensive. Basically everyone else is signed up already (or should be simple to re sign) so there is a decent baseline here where we at least get to have the same team next year. There can be some wiggle room as well to make adjustments.

There's not a lot of wiggle room. Next GM is going to get screwed up the rear end by Holland hand cuffing him.

That 3 million isn't just 3 million either. It could have been like 10+ million in accured cap room at the deadline, imagine the roster upgrades you could make with that kind of cap room, but as its dead cap, you can't do anything with it.

 

[MessierII]

it doesn’t have to be dead cap. The blessing of him playing like shite is you can probably re up him for cheap and hope he rebounds. If he does the cap hit next year is fine. If he doesn’t you have an overpaid bottom 6 energy guy. The best bet might be to double down.

 

[Drivesaitl]

it doesn’t have to be dead cap. The blessing of him playing like shite is you can probably re up him for cheap and hope he rebounds. If he does the cap hit next year is fine. If he doesn’t you have an overpaid bottom 6 energy guy. The best bet might be to double down.

So we should just re-up old done Connor Brown who from the looks of things is either again injured or HS today as he wasn't skating. Lets just have useless two yrs in row. What a plan.

Connor Brown will still be thinking he's worth something more than league minimum and some dumb club might want to give it to him. Would be similar shit that he pulled on the Capitals. He was out all season injured then wants the bucks.

 

[Heavy Dee]

So we should just re-up old done Connor Brown who from the looks of things is either again injured or HS today as he wasn't skating. Lets just have useless two yrs in row. What a plan.

Connor Brown will still be thinking he's worth something more than league minimum and some dumb club might want to give it to him. Would be similar shit that he pulled on the Capitals. He was out all season injured then wants the bucks.

How did I know this reply was coming

 

[Drivesaitl]

How did I know this reply was coming

I'm thorough as you'd know regarding certain themes. Do you disagree? I think its ridiculous to want to "double down" on old injured Brown. Bad enough having to have him here this season.

 

[Mr Positive]

There's not a lot of wiggle room. Next GM is going to get screwed up the rear end by Holland hand cuffing him.

That 3 million isn't just 3 million either. It could have been like 10+ million in accured cap room at the deadline, imagine the roster upgrades you could make with that kind of cap room, but as its dead cap, you can't do anything with it.

There is of course missed opportunity with what we could have done with extra space that Holland has wasted with poor gambles (that were even poor gambles at the time). I'm just saying that these bad gambles aren't about to implode the team because of that cap overage. There is a cap increase, and no major contracts to re sign. The following year is the painful one, and that's when the Brown overage and Neal buyout expire. We still have the Campbell screw up to handle, but again, the true pain for that is the 2025 offseason. The wiggle room I mention is just in the depth. We won't get to do anything substantial to upgrade the top six or defense without something drastic.

 

[bellagiobob]

Always look for the positive in every situation.

 

[MessierII]

So we should just re-up old done Connor Brown who from the looks of things is either again injured or HS today as he wasn't skating. Lets just have useless two yrs in row. What a plan.

Connor Brown will still be thinking he's worth something more than league minimum and some dumb club might want to give it to him. Would be similar shit that he pulled on the Capitals. He was out all season injured then wants the bucks.

Whether you choose to acknowledge it or not Brown was a very good player in the NHL for a several years and is not old. Maybe he’s done but maybe he isn’t. There’s a decent bet he bounces back to some extent.

 

[Aerchon]

Whether you choose to acknowledge it or not Brown was a very good player in the NHL for a several years and is not old. Maybe he’s done but maybe he isn’t. There’s a decent bet he bounces back to some extent.

This takes a level of denial for what has happened this season as fact to levels I can not comprehend.

The turd that has been polished so bright by certain main stream media sources has blinded you onto a ridiculous statement.

You would "bet" anything of value that he bounces back... to some "extent".

By bet you mean a shiny nickel? By extent you mean he beaks the 10 point mark over an 82 game season?

I think it's more "likely" he washes out of the NHL than it he ever cracks 30 points ever again.

I am coming in late, so not picking a side or anything, but... the Brown acquisition and stubborn denial of his absurdly poor play this year is embarrassing. A rock solid 1 out of ten or worse rated move by Holland that just keeps getting worse.

As it stands today and can reasonably be projected the Brown acquisition is indefensible.

 

[Pavel10]

I love how some people exert so much energy on pinching pennies on players like Kostin that helped us win the only playoff round we won last season, but having a massive cap penalty on Brown to the tune of $3+ million in cap spent on air next year is just "well that's how it goes".

This team's cap management is awful.

Ken Holland has always been an awful cap manager. The contracts he writes are never steals.

 

[McDoused]

I feel like posters forget that browns cap hit for this year is only 775k. He looks like he's finally getting back into his rhythm and is still going to be a bargain for this year.

Patience.

 

[MessierII]

This takes a level of denial for what has happened this season as fact to levels I can not comprehend.

The turd that has been polished so bright by certain main stream media sources has blinded you onto a ridiculous statement.

You would "bet" anything of value that he bounces back... to some "extent".

By bet you mean a shiny nickel? By extent you mean he beaks the 10 point mark over an 82 game season?

I think it's more "likely" he washes out of the NHL than it he ever cracks 30 points ever again.

I am coming in late, so not picking a side or anything, but... the Brown acquisition and stubborn denial of his absurdly poor play this year is embarrassing. A rock solid 1 out of ten or worse rated move by Holland that just keeps getting worse.

As it stands today and can reasonably be projected the Brown acquisition is indefensible.

I’ll use a poker analogy to better convey what I’m saying. With brown we are what they call “pot committed” as in we already have 3ish million committed to this player on the cap next year whether he plays here or not. What’s another 800k to find out if he’s really done or not? Unless there is some clear cut significant upgrade out there for 800k why not bet on him covering part of the bet we’ve already made?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Ken Holland has always been an awful cap manager. The contracts he writes are never steals.

RNH and Hyman are looking like steals.

 

[CROTT]

I feel like posters forget that browns cap hit for this year is only 775k. He looks like he's finally getting back into his rhythm and is still going to be a bargain for this year.

Patience.

Terrible take, three points in 27 games for a veteran that got a lot of minutes until recently with either McDavid or Draisaitl.

in reality he’s getting 4 million as he’s probably not going to be playing for the Oilers next year. And even if he does he’s getting the 3.25 million regardless and for a contender that wasted cap could be a major difference maker.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Terrible take, three points in 27 games for a veteran that got a lot of minutes until recently with either McDavid or Draisaitl.

in reality he’s getting 4 million as he’s probably not going to be playing for the Oilers next year. And even if he does he’s getting the 3.25 million regardless and for a contender that wasted cap could be a major difference maker.

I think his point was what Brown could be for the remainder of the season, not what he's done early in the season.

At $775k he is a no-risk player this year and I thought he had a really good game against Anaheim. If he keeps that up he's great value, although we'll obviously have to wait and see.

And before you retort about the bonus, don't bother as I am aware he has the bonus but we are stuck with it regardless.

 

[MoontoScott]

Always look for the positive in every situation.

8 years *10.5 Million for a guy who might be a healthy scratch for a chunk of 2024. The Brown contract looks like bargain basement stuff at Walmart's in comparison.

 

[brentashton]

I think his point was what Brown could be for the remainder of the season, not what he's done early in the season.

At $775k he is a no-risk player this year and I thought he had a really good game against Anaheim. If he keeps that up he's great value, although we'll obviously have to wait and see.

And before you retort about the bonus, don't bother as I am aware he has the bonus but we are stuck with it regardless.

Not sure how anyone can rationalize this as that he’s a 775k player. If he was league min, he wouldn’t even be a discussion point in the thread.

He is what he is… a 4M player who hasn’t produced a drop, payment methodology be damned.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Not sure how anyone can rationalize this as that he’s a 775k player. If he was league min, he wouldn’t even be a discussion point in the thread.

He is what he is… a 4M player who hasn’t produced a drop, payment methodology be damned.

Aaand someone retorts about the bonus.

The point is there's no use replacing him with a different player for cap purposes if his play picks up which it very well might.

 

[ZJuice]

Aaand someone retorts about the bonus.

The point is there's no use replacing him with a different player for cap purposes if his play picks up which it very well might.

So next year I can bitch all year about brown having 0 points for the Oilers while having a 3.225milion cap? I’ll make sure to @ you with every post

 

[brentashton]

Aaand someone retorts about the bonus.

The point is there's no use replacing him with a different player for cap purposes if his play picks up which it very well might.

Last time I checked you can’t force someone what or what not to say on a discussion board so that it fits your narrative. Nice try though.

Check the context of what I said.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

No point in getting rid of him now.

Just have to hope he improves as the season goes on.

 

[brentashton]

So next year I can bitch all year about brown having 0 points for the Oilers while having a 3.225milion cap? I’ll make sure to @ you with every post

Bingo.

But first you will have to get his approval to post. He’s now the self-appointed gatekeeper of content.

 

[Draiskull]

He is looking better with his playmaking and PK but still not good enough.
0 hits in last 19GP for someone fighting for a roster spot in bottom 6 isn't "giving it up best".
Lavoie has as many hits as Brown this season playing just 7 games.