Confirmed with Link: Oilers sign Connor Brown to 1-year incentive laden deal ($775K caphit, potentially $3.25M in bonuses)

[Drivesaitl]

Kostin got 2 mil a year.

Kostin was an even bigger ? when he arrived here.

Have some faith.

Thanks man. Faith left me when Vegas beat us and due to our awful coaching staff, schemes, and player usage. Obviously not feeling it. maybe in time.

 

[duul]

Do you think Yamamoto is a better player than Brown?

Not necessarily, no. However they are close to a point where the fact one is getting 4 million to just be healthy in our group and the other is being moved at the cost of Kostin, then being bought out by a team with loads of cap space shows something is awry here.

Their ppg and playstyle is not different to a point where one should be bought out and the other paid 4 million to show up. They should be paid at max, 1 million difference in salary. The fact that Yamo was bought out at 3 should tell you something is terribly wrong here.

We just put all of our eggs into the Brown basket, even though the guy hasn't played in forever and is returning from a catastrophic injury. Do you think that's wise in a year where we need to be going all out for a Cup?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Thanks man. Faith left me when Vegas beat us and due to our awful coaching staff, schemes, and player usage. Obviously not feeling it. maybe in time.

Oh you only watched the highlights, fair enough. The series was much different live. Still frustrating though.

 

[JSlick]

is it biased to say the Oilers have one of the best if not the best top 6 forward lineup in the league?

 

[alphahelix]

That's minimum you aren't understanding.

His Cap hit for THIS Season is $775K with the potential to earn $3.25M in bonus related to various things, likely alot to games played.

If earned they would carry over to NEXT season. It's not Ideal, but you have to be creative, and this is a way to do that.

who the hell was gonna pay connor brown 4 million dollars this year? honestly, Holland believes every word that agents tell him during negotiations.

 

[Drivesaitl]

That's minimum you aren't understanding.

His Cap hit for THIS Season is $775K with the potential to earn $3.25M in bonus related to various things, likely alot to games played.

If earned they would carry over to NEXT season. It's not Ideal, but you have to be creative, and this is a way to do that.

Thanks. I don't understand cba or contracts one iota. Didn't get that the money is just deferred but still creates problems then for next season?

Thanks again for the correction.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

who the hell was gonna pay connor brown 4 million dollars this year? honestly, Holland believes every word that agents tell him during negotiations.

Plenty of teams honestly. I get it's fun to assume they just bid against themselves and f***ed themselves over, but you're not a small child, you know that's idiotic.

Hell Detroit gave Justin Holl f***ing more money than Cody Ceci.

It's not "ideal" but this is being creative whether you like it or not.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Oh you only watched the highlights, fair enough. The series was much different live. Still frustrating though.

I watched all the playoffs. I often watch games second time to see more of what went on. The series was lost on coaching. I'm told its just Woody needing to learn some things. I have less faith in that.

 

[OilerTyler]

Not necessarily, no. However they are close to a point where the fact one is getting 4 million to just be healthy in our group and the other is being moved at the cost of Kostin, then being bought out by a team with loads of cap space shows something is awry here.

Their ppg and playstyle is not different to a point where one should be bought out and the other paid 4 million to show up. They should be paid at max, 1 million difference in salary. The fact that Yamo was bought out at 3 should tell you something is terribly wrong here.

We just put all of our eggs into the Brown basket, even though the guy hasn't played in forever and is returning from a catastrophic injury. Do you think that's wise in a year where we need to be going all out for a Cup?

Zach Hyman had the same "catastrophic injury" two years before we signed him. How has that turned out?

You need some context if you are going to compare Yamamoto and Brown's production. Brown was putting up "Yamamoto" numbers when he was playing in Toronto's bottom six. Yamamoto was putting up those numbers playing with the two best players in the league. When Brown was getting top six minutes in Ottawa he produced at a 20 goal, 50 point pace. I'm pretty confident he will end up being a major upgrade on Yamamoto (who also has injury problems himself by the way).

 

[duul]

Zach Hyman had the same "catastrophic injury" two years before we signed him. How has that turned out?

You need some context if you are going to compare Yamamoto and Brown's production. Brown was putting up "Yamamoto" numbers when he was playing in Toronto's bottom six. Yamamoto was putting up those numbers playing with the two best players in the league. When Brown was getting top six minutes in Ottawa he produced at a 20 goal, 50 point pace. I'm pretty confident he will end up being a major upgrade on Yamamoto (who also has injury problems himself by the way).

I am not a fan of Yamamoto in the slightest. I think he is a dog shit useless player.

Putting all of our eggs into Connor Brown in a year where we NEED to win the Cup is foolish, given our defensive and goaltending woes. It's beyond foolish especially given the price we must pay next year.

 

[OilerTyler]

I am not a fan of Yamamoto in the slightest. I think he is a dog shit useless player.

Putting all of our eggs into Connor Brown in a year where we NEED to win the Cup is foolish, given our defensive and goaltending woes. It's beyond foolish especially given the price we must pay next year.

$775k against the cap is "all our eggs" now?

 

[Senor Catface]

Meanwhile our division rivals will be adding significant pieces with all that newfound space. It's shooting ourselves in the foot at best unless we win a Cup this year. Does that seem likely to you given the makeup of our team?

Right, all the players lining up to play for Vancouver, Calgary, Anaheim and San Jose.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Zach Hyman had the same "catastrophic injury" two years before we signed him. How has that turned out?

You need some context if you are going to compare Yamamoto and Brown's production. Brown was putting up "Yamamoto" numbers when he was playing in Toronto's bottom six. Yamamoto was putting up those numbers playing with the two best players in the league. When Brown was getting top six minutes in Ottawa he produced at a 20 goal, 50 point pace. I'm pretty confident he will end up being a major upgrade on Yamamoto (who also has injury problems himself by the way).

Zach Hyman never had a season long injury. Hyman is a tough as nails player who is in the paint banging for position for goals all the time. A player that takes tons of punishment out there to get his results.

$775k against the cap is "all our eggs" now?

If you look at our cap situation and who still has to be signed its pretty clear that there will be no money left.

 

[duul]

I doubt we win even 8 playoff games next season. If I suddenly heard the coaching staff were being replaced I could think differently. I think we got career best performances from several players last season who were all in on last season. I doubt we ever get those kinds of performances again. Happens in hockey and I've seen it lots. Teams get one or two chances at it and thats it. Last playoffs had all the look of the cup just being there for some team to grab it. But unfortunately it was a learning year teaching moment for our coaching staff.

Absolutely.

Do you think RNH hits 70 points this year? Or Hyman? Both of them are going to regress at least 20 points, likely 30+. The forward group is due for a huge regression from all of its players. Do McDrai still keep running on all cylinders? Surely one is meant to drop off for a at least 20+ points.

Everything aligned last year besides Evander getting injured. He was useless when he came back. Do we also expect him to return to form? Most of our forward group was invisible in the playoffs. Does Hyman come back from those multiple nagging injuries? He couldn't skate in the playoffs.

There's a lot to be concerned about going into next season and we've spent our upgrade money on another huge question mark.

 

[OilerTyler]

Zach Hyman never had a season long injury. Hyman is a tough as nails player who is in the paint banging for position for goals all the time. A player that takes tons of punishment out there to get his results.

Hyman had the exact same injury as Brown.

 

[bellagiobob]

NHL contract grades: Oilers add high-upside forward in Connor Brown

Brown and the Oilers might have just agreed on the most interesting deal of the day.

theathletic.com

The eastern media usually love mocking all of our trades/signings, so must of caused them some butt hurt to rank this one as the best deal of the day.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Hyman had the exact same injury as Brown.

Thats fine. I stated that Zach never missed a full season from his injury. Also everybody is different after injury, recovery is never the same one person to the next. But more to the point Hyman never had a gap in play that caused him to miss nearly 15 contiguous months of hockey Like Brown has had. I mean Brown has played only 4 games in all that time. As an older player I would suggest its harder coming back to rigors of NHL after such a long time out. Hyman just missed half a season. Not the same circumstance.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Love the signing.

Big thing for me is Brown doesn't need to be with McDavid or Draisaitl to succeed, and is very capable of helping anchor a quality checking line.

Kane-McDavid-Brown
Foegele/Janmark-McLeod-Brown

He wouldn't be out of place in either set up.

 

[Drivesaitl]

NHL contract grades: Oilers add high-upside forward in Connor Brown

Brown and the Oilers might have just agreed on the most interesting deal of the day.

theathletic.com

The eastern media usually love mocking all of our trades/signings, so must of caused them some butt hurt to rank this one as the best deal of the day.

Brown has played exclusively in the EC and has played extensively for Toronto and Ottawa. Of course they're going to think he's the best thing since sliced bread.

But its default anyway as its been pretty quiet today. I would say the biggest splash this week was Toffoli being available. Would've been nice add I've been saying for around 5 yrs...sigh

 

[Drivesaitl]

You're embarrassing yourself with your clear lack of knowledge on Brown. You also called him a "small peripheral player" and admitted your player analysis is from stat watching. Maybe put the hockey card down and wait and see how he plays in Edmonton.

Fair enough. When I dig in I just keep digging. A character flaw. haha

Thunder and lightning banging all around here on Canada Day maybe added some drama. Holy crap we've had some close strikes here in Millwoods. Ground shaking strikes.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Agreed. A non incentivized contract in the competitive world of pro sports. hey guy just show up, you get paid.

Not sure how people are thinking this guy is coming here to win it all. Other than maybe some blanket words. Seems like just another tosser looking for a last cheque while he still can. Sure the list wasn't long for a player that just missed a full season.

Last week we had insiders saying if Connor Brown wasn’t feeling good about his progress from his ACL surgery that he should forgo looking at the Oilers and sign with a team able to offer term and/or dollars this season. He comes in on a 1 year deal with bonuses deferred to next season for games played and posters here acting like the structure of the deal is going to make him not try. I don’t get your negativity. Browns signing a games played bonus deal like this shows he and his camp have faith his knee is going to be 100% which is a positive.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Last week we had insiders saying if Connor Brown wasn’t feeling good about his progress from his ACL surgery that he should forgo looking at the Oilers and sign with a team able to offer term and/or dollars this season. He comes in on a 1 year deal with bonuses deferred to next season for games played and posters here acting like the structure of the deal is going to make him not try. I don’t get your negativity.

Negative about the prospects now. After the team has bowed out of playoffs this season due to coaching. Generally i've been positive through the McDrai Arc since we fired Chiarelli.

I don't trust the coaches to figure it out and we had a juggernaut lineup last playoffs and best goal scoring club, best PP. Just don't see even that being repeated.

You don't get my negativity as it relates to no Canadian team having won a cup in 30yrs? We've wasted longterm McDrai contracts. Even Drai, my fave player says it was a "wasted" season" Bottomline is winning cup. Doubt we're any closer now. Brown has never been a playoff performer. Its the only time it matters. Its not just that Brown has only scored 1 playoff goal ever in 20GP. Its that he doesn't even get many shots either. One playoff goal ever is underwhelming. Even sad.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Thats fine. I stated that Zach never missed a full season from his injury. Also everybody is different after injury, recovery is never the same one person to the next. But more to the point Hyman never had a gap in play that caused him to miss nearly 15 contiguous months of hockey Like Brown has had. I mean Brown has played only 4 games in all that time. As an older player I would suggest its harder coming back to rigors of NHL after such a long time out. Hyman just missed half a season. Not the same circumstance.

Browns ACL was a clean tear. No ligament or cartilage damage. He’s been skating already which is a good sign. Especially this far out from camp. He’s also stated he’s used the time to work on his conditioning and diet. Hopefully things to improve his return to hockey. There’s going to be a level of risk in almost any move we make. The facts is for this seasons coming right cap situation we added RW that is a solid 2 way forward. Known as a solid defensive forward. Hardly ever takes penalties. Is good down low on the cycle. Can PK and has enough skill to find himself on the 2nd powerplay unit. All this for 775,000 on the coming seasons cap.

The bonus money is an issue we can address next season. Right now we’ve improved our forward depth. We are going for it and Brown is a player to help do that. I see others talking offensive production vs what a failure this signing could be. We have plenty of offense up front. He doesn’t need to be a line driver. Be a two way responsible winger. That’s what we need.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Negative about the prospects now. After the team has bowed out of playoffs this season due to coaching. Generally i've been positive through the McDrai Arc since we fired Chiarelli.

I don't trust the coaches to figure it out and we had a juggernaut lineup last playoffs and best goal scoring club, best PP. Just don't see even that being repeated.

You don't get my negativity as it relates to no Canadian team having won a cup in 30yrs? We've wasted longterm McDrai contracts. Even Drai, my fave player says it was a "wasted" season" Bottomline is winning cup. Doubt we're any closer now. Brown has never been a playoff performer. Its the only time it matters. Its not just that Brown has only scored 1 playoff goal ever in 20GP. Its that he doesn't even get many shots either. One playoff goal ever is underwhelming. Even sad.

Oilers have scoring and a great PP. We lacked two way defensive forwards and guys that can improve the PK. Brown is the type that helps address those deficiencies. He’s not a redundant type of player on Edmonton. My comment on negativity is directed at this signing and this signing alone. Not the state of hockey in Canada, Bettman, or any other issue.

 

[bellagiobob]

Agreed. A non incentivized contract in the competitive world of pro sports. hey guy just show up, you get paid.

Not sure how people are thinking this guy is coming here to win it all. Other than maybe some blanket words. Seems like just another tosser looking for a last cheque while he still can. Sure the list wasn't long for a player that just missed a full season.

Lots of reports that he forego-ed guaranteed money elsewhere to get a chance to play on a championship caliber team. If you've followed his career at all, a mail it in player is pretty much the opposite of what he is. And why would a player on a one year deal, looking for next deal to be a lucrative multiyear deal, just mail in the season?