Draisatl for Hanifin is a discussion. RNH is not close.
If the Canes were willing to part with Hanifin they would deal with Colorado directly.
McKenzie: Oilers in on Barrie? (Part II)
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Draisatl for Hanifin is a discussion. RNH is not close.
If the Canes were willing to part with Hanifin they would deal with Colorado directly.
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cgf
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How about a three way deal (some parts come from Cult of Hockey)
Top 5 protected 1st round pick 2017 (edm)
Benoit Pouliot
Cam Fowler
3nd round pick (edm)
Tyson Barrie
Please leave us out of this. These rumors involving Pouliot to the Ducks are like that stank smell coming from the downstairs bathroom that Grandpa uses and you just can't get rid of it no matter how hard you try.
If we're making a deal with EDM, then I'd rather move Fowler for RNH in a deal that somehow balances out the salaries with picks and other pieces.
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Actually Stauffer is eluding that we are not offering RNH at all. It's several lesser assets like the O'Reilly trade.
Remember though, that all Stauffer is doing is talking about the rumour that Friedman and McKenzie fueled. They both said that the Avs have a number in mind for Barrie, and they will not go over it. This could have nothing to do with an internal budget, and more to do with their opinion of the player.
I wouldn't trade either RNH or Drai this year. That would leave us one injury away from Letestu centering our 2nd line, which kills the season. Our D should be a lot better this year and they are all so young still. Let's see how guys like klefbom, Larsson, Nurse & Davidson develop this year and evaluate from there. I'd try to sign a RHD depth guy (gryba) and call it a day.
I suspect a lot of teams (wild, preds) will make moves this trade deadline to position themselves for the expansion draft. That could be the opportunity to pick up a good player for a good price. It's time to be patient, and evaluate what we really have.
I suspect a lot of teams (wild, preds) will make moves this trade deadline to position themselves for the expansion draft. That could be the opportunity to pick up a good player for a good price. It's time to be patient, and evaluate what we really have.
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Makes sense that they would want to move RNH's salary out instead of Draisaitl. That pays most of Barrie's salary for the short term at least.
I don't really blame Colorado for holding out for Draisaitl either so it probably ends in a stalemate.
This is a myth. RNH played 76 and 80 games prior to last season when he broke his hand blocking a shot.
Prior to that he had to have shoulder surgery from a nagging injury sustained in junior.
Nothing about this history indicates that at all.
Please leave us out of this. These rumors involving Pouliot to the Ducks are like that stank smell coming from the downstairs bathroom that Grandpa uses and you just can't get rid of it no matter how hard you try.
If we're making a deal with EDM, then I'd rather move Fowler for RNH in a deal that somehow balances out the salaries with picks and other pieces.
Fowler doesn't fit a need in Edmonton though.
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Bob posted this several weeks ago.
At what point is it considered stale? Do we take this into the following season before we drop this?
At what point is it considered stale? Do we take this into the following season before we drop this?
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How about a three way deal (some parts come from Cult of Hockey)
Top 5 protected 1st round pick 2017 (edm)
Benoit Pouliot
Cam Fowler
3nd round pick (edm)
Tyson Barrie
Yeah this is so not happening, Maybe something around Pouliot would've gotten you Vatanen no way does it get you Fowler. This is pretty bad for Anaheim and no way does Bob Murray accept this.
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Thank god I don't have to make that call. I probably couldn't trade Leon away even for a steal if I was his GM, but holy crap would that be the kind of offer that made me know that I probably should have.
Getting a high first + Pouliot is bad for Fowler? Would another team offer a first for him? I guess I am bit higher on Pouliot than you.. I think he is on a decent contract $4 Million AAV for three more years. Not bad for a 2nd line winger.
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I can support the Hall trade, BUT... If Chia trades Drai for Barrie I will go ballistic. I can live with RNH for him but if we get another Dman then it's really gonna mess up who we protect for next year.
I agree with who ever said stick it out this year with what we have. We don't know if Drai is ready for 2C duty and we are 1 injury away from Letestu as the 2C if we trade one of the other ones.
I agree with who ever said stick it out this year with what we have. We don't know if Drai is ready for 2C duty and we are 1 injury away from Letestu as the 2C if we trade one of the other ones.
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I agree. Its not like we have any shot at a cup this year so we might as well keep the 3 centres around so we have some depth. The goal for this season should be to push for a playoff spot and show some progress. I have a feeling some more D might shake loose at the end of the season before the expansion drafts as some teams might not want to lose top 4D for nothing. Aside from that we're better off letting Nuge take some of the load off our 2 very young centres (not that McDavid needs it) and let him hopefully get a full healthy season in. He had a very good 2014-15 season and if he can grow on that then he might be something we look at trading post expansion draft when his value is hopefully greater.
TBH, I'd rather have Barrie over Larsson for Hall; Oilers desperately needed that puck moving defensemen.
IMO, it would've made sense to send RNH to Jersey for Larsson and Hall to the Avs for Barrie. That way they'd have a young and proven top pairing of Barrie/Larsson and a young dynamic forward group with steady goaltending. Alas, the Oils will need to hope that the Avs take one of their offers that does not affect their core.
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McFlyingV
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Can't say much about him prior to his time in Edmonton as I hadn't watched him much, but he's certainly played better than a 40 point player here. Of course he hasn't hit 40 because of injuries the last 2 seasons, which of course is a concern itself.
I still like:
To Winnipeg: Matt Duchene
To Edmonton: Tyson Barrie
To Colorado: Ryan Nugent Hopkins and Jacob Trouba
Duchene>RNH
but
Trouba>Barrie... the "in a vacuum" difference is still not enough for the Avs, but when considering the market for young RHD with high ceilings, as well as Roy's love for toughness and grit, I think it makes sense for all parties.
The oilers have apparently offered RNH for Barrie, so, makes sense there...
The Jets get an all world type Center, and having Duchene, Schief and Little down the middle should make up for the loss of Trouba (look at the D the pens just won the cup with....)
McFlyingV
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I still don't get all the Duchene/Trouba talk. Why does Winnipeg need Duchene when they have Scheifele and Little?
Value might be there, but Oilers really shouldn't trade Nuge. Nuge is still a better player than Drai, and if you move him you have a 20 and 19 year old as your top 2 centers. Ebs is their only top 6 RW, so he's a no go too. Only way the Oilers could land Barrie would be for a package of, 2017 1st/2nd, 2018 1st/2nd/ Reinhart.... Which I imagine doesn't interest the Avs.
It really depends on MacKinnon's contract. If the Avs have an internal cap and Barrie is asking for too much, maybe they move him for cap space. Who knows
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