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Oilers hype: Is HF buying in on a 2024 run?

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Who knows.

This time last year I thought Jersey and the Panthers would be in the hunt for Bedard, and thought Tampa was still the team to beat.

The last time the media was this bullish on the Oilers winning the cup, they completely missed the playoffs.
FlameChampion said:
Ultimately it depends if the teams mentality has changed. Are they tired of losing? Is the team (forwards and defense) going to play a better defensive and composed game? How will the goaltending perform (if the team is better infront of them)?
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I'm a die-hard Oiler fan, but I'm a bit torn on this.

Yes, most cup winning teams in recent memory have shown they can "lock it down" when they're up 1-0 with a period of hockey left. But the Oilers completely unravel when they try and protect a lead like that.

What the Oilers are good at, is making the game 2-0 then 3-0.

Sitting back on a 3 goal lead means we will likely lose, but they're absolutely dangerous knowing they're going to try and make it 4-0.

Lets be honest, if you had McDavid + Draisaitl, and a 1-0 lead, are you asking them to block shots?

Or when teams are trying to create offense, you make them pay for their aggressive play?
 
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Skolman said:
Hey now, since Nurse is overpaid that means he's a terrible defenseman who is maybe a #4.

Has HF not taught you anything?
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I know this is super late response but i thought id respond since i have had Multiple posters have told me he is horrible.

Sometimes I wonder if the posters actually watch him play hockey over a season for a full game or just enjoy mentioning he is overpaid so that makes him bad.

It's similar to Jeff Carter on the Pens board. At this point he's a 1 million dollar player that gets paid over 3 million. Lots of people say he isn't a NHL player anymore. I disagree he is at a 10 minutes a game 2nd PP 2nd PK face-off wizard that you play under 0 as your 11th /12th best forward.
 
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Oilers 3 biggest weaknesses:

1) Coach - too rigid and unadaptable
2) McDrai mentality - mindset of offense over defense, this filters down to the rest of the players
3) Goalies and defense - not good under pressure in the playoffs

They will finish top 5 in the regular season...playoffs are a coin flip.

Another aspect to consider is that McDrai's odds for a long injury increase every year, especially with their utilization rate.
 
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Bounces R Way said:
Which team won tho? The better one.


According to NST the Flames out chanced the Oilers in their 2022 series btw. Both in high danger and regular scoring chances.

132-106 SC
50-40 HDSC

But I don't think you'll find too many fans that are holding on to that like a teddy bear.
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Game 1:. Oilers 31.4% xgf, 26% hdcf
Game 2: oilers 55.4% xgf, 59.3% hdcf
Game 3: oilers 49.42xgf%, 51.7% hdcf
Game 4: oilers 54.6 xgf%, 60 hdcf
Game 5: oilers 51.5 xgf% 52.2 hdcf

Flames Dominated Game one but oilers were the better team the rest of the series.

WetcoastOrca said:
I agree. From my vantage point both Colorado and Vegas were deep teams that peaked at the perfect time. No team was going to beat them. I will, however, give the Oilers credit for at least making a series out of the Vegas tilt (unlike the Colorado sweep). I thought they played well up until the final game when Vegas’ depth just took over.
Overall I just don’t think they have the depth, D or goaltending to beat the very best teams but McDrai can always go supernova and hide a lot of their faults. And the playoffs are hard to predict.
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The final game against vegas oilers had 65.5% xgf and 69% hdcf. Hill absolutely stole that one
 
tucker3434 said:
I don't know. For several years now, we've heard that this was going to be the year that McDrai were going to have some help. Then... not so much. I guess I'm at the point where I won't believe it until I see it.

I just still don't have faith that 4+ goals is an automatic win for them in the playoffs. That's backbreaking. When McDrai go off and you still can't put that game in the w column, you're going to lose the series. Margins are just too thin. Teams are too good.
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The same type of thing was said about the Avs until they won....
 
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McVespa99 said:
The same type of thing was said about the Avs until they won....
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And about San Jose, Florida, Carolina, Nashville, Toronto, Boston etc. The fact that the Avs won with one of the best D groups we’ve seen and after making significant changes to their group doesn’t mean that Edmonton will win too.
 
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KrisLetAngry said:
I know this is super late response but i thought id respond since i have had Multiple posters have told me he is horrible.

Sometimes I wonder if the posters actually watch him play hockey over a season for a full game or just enjoy mentioning he is overpaid so that makes him bad.

It's similar to Jeff Carter on the Pens board. At this point he's a 1 million dollar player that gets paid over 3 million. Lots of people say he isn't a NHL player anymore. I disagree he is at a 10 minutes a game 2nd PP 2nd PK face-off wizard that you play under 0 as your 11th /12th best forward.
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Agreed on Jeff Carter.

Our fans just need someone to whip if wins aren't happening.

Carter and Sullivan are the top two scapegoats.
 
tucker3434 said:
And we changed goalies and got deeper before we won.
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It was a perfect storm for the Avs. They had their key players on great contracts and were able to add some really good depth. It was probably one of the most dominating Cup wins in recent history. I felt like the Avs were just toying with the Oilers during their series like a cat playing with a mouse.
 
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Do people forget that Edmonton was a top ten defensive team the last quarter of the last season and a top offensive team?

McShogun99 said:
It was a perfect storm for the Avs. They had their key players on great contracts and were able to add some really good depth. It was probably one of the most dominating Cup wins in recent history. I felt like the Avs were just toying with the Oilers during their series like a cat playing with a mouse.
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They were very impressive. Can't debate that
 
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All the hype will finally become reality this year... I can feel it baby.... Oilers bringing home the cup to Canada. :D
I have faith that Holland will make the right moves at trade deadline to address the defence and bottom 6. Hopefully between a bounce back season for Campbelll and a stronger playoffs for Skinner... the netminding should be good enough.
 
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Sticksandsun said:
It's just fake hype. Publications putting Canadian teams high gets people to buy subscriptions or views or social media engagement. Edmonton is not winning anything with Skinner/Campbell. Edmonton has not shown any ability to get over the hump. It's just like the Leafs, they'll be ranked in top 5 Cup odds every year the next decade even though we all know the Coyotes probably have better odds at winning a Cup than that core.

Difference between Leafs and Oilers is Leafs have probably the best team in the league and just choke year after year, Oilers have McJesus and Drai but honestly the team around them is just bad. They can only do so much. McDavid is turning 27 this year. At 27 Gretzky had won 3 Cups and was traded to LA that off-season. It's criminal he hasn't even won a game past the 2nd round yet. Huge waste.
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You can just take this to the bank honestly, Oilers should do whatever they can to upgrade in net.
 
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Da McBomb said:
All the hype will finally become reality this year... I can feel it baby.... Oilers bringing home the cup to Canada. :D
I have faith that Holland will make the right moves at trade deadline to address the defence and bottom 6. Hopefully between a bounce back season for Campbelll and a stronger playoffs for Skinner... the netminding should be good enough.
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No, the netminding will not be good enough
 
Elkhom is a good defender but one guy playing or out unless it’s like Cale Makar shouldn’t be a deciding factor to automatically fix your D or have it turn to absolute shit. Just one game but Jesus Christ that entire team was bad tonight
 
Matty Sundin said:
Elkhom is a good defender but one guy playing or out unless it’s like Cale Makar shouldn’t be a deciding factor to automatically fix your D or have it turn to absolute shit. Just one game but Jesus Christ that entire team was bad tonight
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The Sabres looks pretty awful defensively without Samuelsson it really depends on if you have the capable depth which the Oilers do not have.
 
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