Stealth1616
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Sure but there is risk there with Broberg. If he shits the bed who is taking him in a trade ?Can't we trade them a year after we match?
Sure but there is risk there with Broberg. If he shits the bed who is taking him in a trade ?Can't we trade them a year after we match?
He has had 10 games where he was analytically awful and people are acting like he is some amazing player. He has had zero real sample or showing he is worth close to 4.5 let alone 2.I hope we match the Broberg offer, but I am clearly much higher on him than most. He is ready to break out imo. Sure there is risk involved, both in keeping him, but also in letting him go...
This is essentially it. We're a team that has its eyes set on a much bigger prize. There's no real reason to make that type of gamble on a young player, regardless of the upside.He has had 10 games where he was analytically awful and people are acting like he is some amazing player. He has had zero real sample or showing he is worth close to 4.5 let alone 2.
and if he doesn't?Sure but there is risk there with Broberg. If he shits the bed who is taking him in a trade ?
Why would this be a locker room issue? You think teammates are going to snub these guys because they signed a big contract elsewhere? If they do, they're assholes straight upThe question is do the guys in the locker room want them back?
Ehh all the vets taking discounts only to have 2 rookies who contributed Jack shit for most of the season strong arm the team into giving them all the money the vets left on the table? I doubt they would love it.Why would this be a locker room issue? You think teammates are going to snub their teammates because they signed a big contract elsewhere? If they do, they're assholes straight up
Holloway had 18 points in 89 NHL games with the Oilers,This is essentially it. We're a team that has its eyes set on a much bigger prize. There's no real reason to make that type of gamble on a young player, regardless of the upside.
The Blues made a hell of a move. Krug going on LTI with a seemingly career-ending injury left them with a hole on LD that is kind of a perfect opportunity for Broberg to establish himself as an NHL D.
It won't be difficult to match Holloway though. And it's not unlikely he earns that salary sooner rather than later. The guy led the playoffs in hits and showed a lack for scoring some key goals.
It’s a move that makes sense for a rebuilding team where cap doesn’t matter. No contender pays a guy like Broberg that much money.This is essentially it. We're a team that has its eyes set on a much bigger prize. There's no real reason to make that type of gamble on a young player, regardless of the upside.
The Blues made a hell of a move. Krug going on LTI with a seemingly career-ending injury left them with a hole on LD that is kind of a perfect opportunity for Broberg to establish himself as an NHL D.
It won't be difficult to match Holloway though. And it's not unlikely he earns that salary sooner rather than later. The guy led the playoffs in hits and showed a lack for scoring some key goals.
Way more proven than Broberg at least.Holloway had 18 points in 89 NHL games with the Oilers,
I get that teams pay players for what they will do in the future but $2M+ over 2 years is a big gamble.
Especially for a team as tight to the cap as this one is.
That it's too much, same as you. But the difference is that I would talk myself into being okay with it, because I believe in the potential of the player + the compensation is terrible. I don't think the offer is high enough that I want the player to leave. You are not always paying for what you see now...Let me ask you a question. How would you have felt yesterday if the oilers signed Broberg to this contract?
This nonsense really needs to stop. They need good players and stop worrying about who is buddy buddy with who. If you can move Darnell nurse and that God awful contract you do it. If you can get Holloway back instead of a garbage 3rd rounder you do it.The question is do the guys in the locker room want them back?
Yes, agents are allowed be contacted.Are the blues allowed to communicate with the players' agents while theyre Oilers RFAs?
They stunted their development by not playing them in a league they weren’t ready for?This nonsense really needs to stop. They need good players and stop worrying about who is buddy buddy with who. If you can move Darnell nurse and that God awful contract you do it. If you can get Holloway back instead of a garbage 3rd rounder you do it.
It is not these guys fault they complete stunted their development.
Fair to feel that way, I just think it’s so ridiculously out of market. Somewhere else in the thread someone posted the 4.5 million UFA dmen this year, needless to say you’d take most of them over Broberg. I say let him go, trade the pick at the TDL for an equivalent or better dman at the time.That it's too much, same as you. But the difference is that I would talk myself into being okay with it, because I believe in the potential of the player + the compensation is terrible. I don't think the offer is high enough that I want the player to leave. You are not always paying for what you see now...
Aside from flashes in the playoffs neither player has proven much of anything in terms of consistency.It’s a move that makes sense for a rebuilding team where cap doesn’t matter. No contender pays a guy like Broberg that much money.
Way more proven than Broberg at least.
They look pretty ready, don't they? They got ready over night in the middle of playoffs? So much so they're ready to cash in.They stunted their development by not playing them in a league they weren’t ready for?
Explains why they're giving 4.5 million to Broberg
We may have raised their value by playing them so little. Play them more, their downsides become more apparent to the team and the league and the dollar value is easier to pin. Plus if you play them more you figure out if you trust one of them enough to let a vet go. In many ways the mistake here is you can’t get to the end of this contract and not have enough miles to know what to do next. So I do think we screwed up their development.They stunted their development by not playing them in a league they weren’t ready for?
It would have to be a dish served very, very cold. Oiler's ain't got no time for that while they still have McDrai. Can't be pulling a Carolina and making emotional decisions to try and screw over the Blues.I wonder what the retribution will be....
I’m not sure they think they will get both, they want Broberg. Not sure they want Holloway as bad, but he’s being used in this situation in my opinion.Glancing at St. Louis' roster I'm surprised they did this.
Their top 12 is pretty damn full with:
Buch-Thomas-Kyrou
Saad-Schenn-Neighbours
Joseph-Faska-Texier
Toropchenko-Sundqvist-Kappanen
So where does Hollloway fit there? They're weak at centre, but he's not really a centre.
Broberg makes more sense, but they acquired a similar player in PO Joseph eariler in the summer, and Perunovich showed well for them last year. Looking at that group, I can see him struggling to stand out, nor he's not going to get PP time to boost his confidence.
Leddy-Parayko
Broberg-Faulk
POJ-Perunovich
He's going to have 2 young LHD hot on his tail for his spot. There isn't as much "comfortably grow into the role" as I would have expected.
Fantastic, dont match and let them sit with it.