Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[Slats432]

Did I miss something with Dube?

Hockey Canada guy. Charged. Also signed in KHL.

Dillon Dube, Michael McLeod listed on KHL rosters while awaiting trial | TSN

Dillon Dube and Michael McLeod are listed on Kontinental Hockey League rosters for the upcoming season while awaiting trial in London, Ont., after being charged with sexual assault in February.

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[sepHF]

Did I miss something with Dube?

he was a part of the Hockey Canada scandal and got exiled to Russia

 

[Canovin]

If I am the Oilers GM, I hammer the phones to see if I can replace both players with similar.

Trade for Nick Robertson in Toronto. Trade for a player ready to break out like Broberg. Use the assets gained.

Profit.

(ok so it's a pipedream)

Tomasino

 

[Mcnofool6110]

TMK, yes. St. Louis has been talking to Holloway and Broberg's agents for a while now.

Probably smart on st Lou's and their agents for a cash strapped team; good to know, thanks

I'd prioitize Broberg, and jettison Ceci to do so. I'm not 100% on Hollywood because young wingers are something we have in house/not super difficult to find

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Hockey Canada guy. Charged. Also signed in KHL.

Dillon Dube, Michael McLeod listed on KHL rosters while awaiting trial | TSN

Dillon Dube and Michael McLeod are listed on Kontinental Hockey League rosters for the upcoming season while awaiting trial in London, Ont., after being charged with sexual assault in February.

www.tsn.ca

My bad rescind that thought!

 

[Macblender]

Picks are fine, especially a 2nd rounder in this draft from a team that's odds on to miss the playoffs.

That's a pretty valuable trade chip at the deadline.

Sure but at the deadline talking heads had Broberg a value at a 1st.

A second is nice still but not great value for Broberg but arguably if he doesn’t live up to almost $4.6M that is horrendous for us. the 3rd for Holloway is pitiful but he is buried depth wise.

I think you sign Holloway let Broberg move on and use the big package above to chase a D who is locked in for a few years. Too bad Parayko is the guy I like lol

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

 

[mooseman7]

No option that I've seen . Maybe there has been, but the Oilers could trade 1 or both of these guys and a Ceci or Kulak, In the next 7 day windows.They can't for a yr after a match..
I'm sure u could get more than a warm body or 2 for these guys because in my opinion the 2nd and 3rd are useless at this point for the Oil.They don't bring u anything of value even at the deadline and u still need 2 players 2 replace them on the roster that are comparable. I don't see those 2 players anywhere in their system right now, regardless of how low your value on the both is after the playoffs. Their regular NHL players. Their replacements on the farm are far less certain to even make the roster. I say sign them both , deal with freeing up space after,Or deal them both, we need at minimum a top6/9 Forward with speed,and a 4/5 great skating d- man. THE PICKS R USELESS.

 

[McFlyingV]

Sucks, but I'd match both. I think Broberg showed more than enough on the toughest stage to play on that compared with his age you have to value him over older guys like Ceci. Matching Holloway is a no-brainer. Might have actually saved the Oilers cap space next season on Holloway because if he took his qualifying offer and goes off for 40-50 points this season then he's getting 4-5M on his next deal.

Can't afford to lose developed youth at this stage of this cores window. I wanted Ceci traded anyways so this doesn't change much for me outside of less cap to play with at the deadline if Kane is on LTIR. If Broberg shows he can be a good top 4D you won't even need a TDL acquisition with the current roster on the back end. If he can't you move out Kulak and get a rental D back on double retention at the TDL.

 

[Macblender]

Can you actually trade a player that has been offer sheeted within the window?

If you found an Anaheim or someone like that who would give us a better 2nd (or 2nd and 3rd) and sign Broberg to that deal which would basically be a trade down for them that wouldn’t be bad

 

[McBooya42]

Probably smart on st Lou's and their agents for a cash strapped team; good to know, thanks

I'd prioitize Broberg, and jettison Ceci to do so. I'm not 100% on Hollywood because young wingers are something we have in house/not super difficult to find

Broberg isn't worth 4.6 per year on his natural side, let alone his off side (at this point). Take the savings, the picks, and trade Ceci for an upgrade.

 

[dem]

Can you actually trade a player that has been offer sheeted within the window?

If you found an Anaheim or someone like that who would give us a better 2nd (or 2nd and 3rd) and sign Broberg to that deal which would basically be a trade down for them that wouldn’t be bad

Nope

We either match or take the pick.

And if we match we can't trade.

 

[Mcnofool6110]

Broberg isn't worth 4.6 per year on his natural side, let alone his off side (at this point). Take the savings, the picks, and trade Ceci for an upgrade.

Eh. See value in both. I think Broby on his off side > Ceci on his natural side this season and next season. Hard to speak about worth when their (Ceci or Broberg) partner's paid anywhere from 4 to 7 million dollars too much.

 

[McFlyingV]

Delete

 

[McFlyingV]

Can you actually trade a player that has been offer sheeted within the window?

If you found an Anaheim or someone like that who would give us a better 2nd (or 2nd and 3rd) and sign Broberg to that deal which would basically be a trade down for them that wouldn’t be bad

No I don't think you can trade a player who has been offer sheeted in the 7 day window.

 

[StreetHawk]

Sucks, but I'd match both. I think Broberg showed more than enough on the toughest stage to play on that compared with his age you have to value him over older guys like Ceci. Matching Holloway is a no-brainer. Might have actually saved the Oilers cap space next season on Holloway because if he took his qualifying offer and goes off for 40-50 points this season then he's getting 4-5M on his next deal.

Can't afford to lose developed youth at this stage of this cores window. I wanted Ceci traded anyways so this doesn't change much for me outside of less cap to play with at the deadline if Kane is on LTIR. If Broberg shows he can be a good top 4D you won't even need a TDL acquisition with the current roster on the back end. If he can't you move out Kulak and get a rental D back on double retention at the TDL.

Hollway got $5.8 mill guaranteed. So to take a QO coming off elc, then he'd need to get $4.8 mill or something to be even after 2 years. Even for Edm, they probably didn't want to have that large a spike in the contract after 1 season.

For Broberg, he also signed with a team with 2 natural RHD in the top 4 in Parayko and Faulk, which would allow him to play the left side if he makes their 2nd pairing unless he prefers the right side.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

That guy, too - don't worry about him.

 

[McFlyingV]

Hollway got $5.8 mill guaranteed. So to take a QO coming off elc, then he'd need to get $4.8 mill or something to be even after 2 years. Even for Edm, they probably didn't want to have that large a spike in the contract after 1 season.

For Broberg, he also signed with a team with 2 natural RHD in the top 4 in Parayko and Faulk, which would allow him to play the left side if he makes their 2nd pairing unless he prefers the right side.

I'm saying if Holloway took a 1 year deal from this Oilers this summer, and then had a really good season he is likely looking at a 3-5mil contract next year, so the Oilers could actually save money in year 2.

 

[9GWG9]

These fukrs waited and signed offer sheets, both for $1 dollar less than the next compensation threshold!

Let remember they were not an integral part of our run. Kick'em to the curb!

 

[Spawn]

Well that sucks lol.

But I guess thats the risk of running so close to the cap and leaving guys unsigned.

I think you match Holloway, say goodbye to Broberg.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Broberg isn't worth 4.6 per year on his natural side, let alone his off side (at this point). Take the savings, the picks, and trade Ceci for an upgrade.

How many years have we been saying Trade Ceci for now?

 

[oXo Cube]

These fukrs waited and signed offer sheets, both for $1 dollar less than the next compensation threshold!

Let remember they were not an integral part of our run. Kick'em to the curb!

The one thing the team absolutely should not do is let emotion dictate their response. It's a business and that goes both ways. Talented players are not easy to get.

The negotiating for these two players has now been done for the Oilers. Does keeping these players at these prices make sense or does it not? Everything else is noise.

 

[Arpeggio]

How many years have we been saying Trade Ceci for now?

I think the shrewd move would've been moving Ceci before last season, and giving Broberg his minutes. But playing devil's advocate here, they have been begging Broberg to grab that spot for years, and he's only recently put together a decent stretch of games. If you're trying to win now, you aren't replacing Ceci with Broberg.

It seems like they tried to replace him with Tanev.

 

[ManofSteel55]

The definition of waiving is the player agreeing to want out.

Oh lord, I thought you were referring to putting him on waivers to send him down to the minors, ha ha.

 

[McFlyingV]

These fukrs waited and signed offer sheets, both for $1 dollar less than the next compensation threshold!

Let remember they were not an integral part of our run. Kick'em to the curb!

Let's not act like they did nothing either. Holloway scored several big goals in multiple series, and gave this team some much needed speed and physicality. Broberg basically came in and stabilized a 2nd pairing that was getting caved in to help the Oilers get out of the WCF and performed well in the Cup Finals to get the Oilers within 1 goal of overtime in game 7. Considering their age and potential it would be pretty short sighted to kick them to the curb in favour of keeping a player like Cody Ceci.