Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[Davo Ikinzom]

What about trading for Shea Weber’s contract or another LTIR contract? Didn’t VGK do that a couple years ago, traded for a ltir contract to allow themselves to exceed the cap enough to fit their guys in?

You can't just create cap space by trading for players on LTIR.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I’m still learning and trying to wrap my head around how LTIR works so I apologize if this is a dumb question, but are you implying that they can call up players prior to when we have to be compliant, in order to be as close to kanes entire cap hit over the salary cap before LTIRing him to increase the LTIR pool?

I knew teams made moves to get as close to the cap as possible prior to utilizing LTIR to maximize the pool, but I didn’t realize you could also strategically be over by the same amount as the cap hit of the guy you’re putting on LTIR in order to maximize the available LTIR pool as well.

It sounds like the cap situation is going to be tight, but even if we match the offer sheets, a ceci cap dump would be all that’s needed to ice this roster for next season.

Yes we can be 10% over. And dumping the Ceci contract with Kane in LTIR with players added to the roster for Oct 9 does the trick of getting us close to maximizing his LTIR.

What about trading for Shea Weber’s contract or another LTIR contract? Didn’t VGK do that a couple years ago, traded for a ltir contract to allow themselves to exceed the cap enough to fit their guys in?

Yes we should be able to do that I think? Leafs and Bolts have both done this as well. If your going to be in LTIR in for a penny in for a pound.

 

[94 Oil Drops]

Yeah, the happiest person after all of this should be Savoie.

There's a very good chance he plays on the big club for at least half of next season now.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

make me

You cheer for the Oilers to lose all the time like Flames fans do so you might as well wear their jersey. I’ll even pay for it. Would you like a Huberdeau or an Andersson?

 

[VainGretzky]

This really pisses me off that they thought they had the luxury of sitting on these 2 players

 

[Captain Fantastic]

I see the Penguins helped the Blues in this by swapping picks. Wtf is going on..

 

[Canovin]

Broberg needs to be offered 4.6+ on his next deal or he becomes a UFA.

Broberg at 4.6M in 2 years would probably be a steal by a large margin

 

[McHelpus]

I blame the Oilers hiring that bum Bowman. This is his welcome back gift.

 

[Canovin]

Take the compensation for Holloway to send a message. Match Broberg. Keep him until he find someone better.

Broberg is who St. Louis really wants.

 

[Duder54]

Well that's pretty shitty, but I guess that's what you get when you leave yourself tight against the cap with attractive RFAs to sign.

The off-season got off to such a nice start. Then they hired Bowman and now this.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Yup, that is exactly what will happen. Can't match either offer. I suppose they could match Holloway's, but I'm not sure they will

You guys can’t be serious. They aren’t losing both players.

Wake up everybody

 

[barry halls]

They already had offers from us, but chose to wait it out to see if offers came from other teams. Here we are.

I won’t begrudge them for making that choice, if another company offered me 2-4x more than what my current company is paying me I would also leave in a heartbeat

 

[elmeroil]

I see the Penguins helped the Blues in this by swapping picks. Wtf is going on..

Honestly, this screams hatred towards Bowman and I'm not even a little bit surprised. Such a terrible hire and now this little welcome bonus. I could be wrong but doesn't seem like a coincidence to me

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Broberg at 4.6M in 2 years would probably be a steal by a large margin

If he becomes a steal at 4.6M he's going to want more than the qualifying offer in 2 years.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I have no moral highground, he's just got a proven record of being a shitty person and overall don't really think he's a good GM. good on you for assuming though

A proven record of being a shitty person? Please cite his all of his shittiness outside of making the mistake of thinking his boss was handling the problem and remember this country still has laws against slander. Good thing you’re hiding behind your keyboard though.

You’re willfully ignoring the facts of the matter so you can climb up on your moral grandstand and shout down anyone who doesn’t agree with your non factual opinion.

I think you should climb down from your high horse for a minute or two and go lecture Kyle Beach about working with and endorsing Bowman. As he’s such a shitty person and all.

Flames board is thataway ——>

 

[Canovin]

I see the Penguins helped the Blues in this by swapping picks. Wtf is going on..

Dubas. Who else?

 

[Sra1974]

This really pisses me off that they thought they had the luxury of sitting on these 2 players

You are making an assumption here. The other scenario is they made them contract offers long ago, close to or maybe slightly below the going market. Both players may have said no thanks we are going to test the rfa waters. Then here we are.

Broberg took an incredible contract that nobody in their right mind said would be acceptable 24 hours ago. He had asked for a trade once already. Holloway is a bit different, not a ton of premium on him but he may have looked at all the signings up front and worried about his playing time.

Over seasoning them like holland likes to do is part of the problem here, the sample size is too small in both players to count on them too much so we couldn’t clear guys out for them. They needed to play more, which we were all asking for and didn’t get and that’s part of what caused this mess.

 

[Cloned]

I see the Penguins helped the Blues in this by swapping picks. Wtf is going on..

Dubas resents the Oilers signing Hyman.

Blues are still bitter over “wakey wakey Backes”.

That’s all I got lol.

 

[KlefDown]

You cheer for the Oilers to lose all the time like Flames fans do so you might as well wear their jersey. I’ll even pay for it. Would you like a Huberdeau or an Andersson?

I cheer for the Oilers to have a competent management group who know how to navigate running a winning professional sports organization in the 21st century. can you get me that on a jersey?

lets stick to the topic of this tread for now, going off topic here

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Sign Broberg with the thought of trading him (or someone way more expensive) sometime. If st Louis thinks he is all that then listen. They are excellent at choosing D.

Holloway is gone.

Holloway is not gone

 

[Zguy370]

Question; Can we offer Broberg say less money on a longer contract like $4m x 3, in the next wk, and if he's willing to take it, it will void the OS from the blues?

 

[FlameChampion]

I voted "take Broberg compensation" but honestly I don't know what to do. Would it be smarter to match and then trade him next year? Can they even make that work if they don't LTIR Ceci?

A similar set of questions could be asked of Holloway. I have little doubt that they could get more than a 3rd for him next off season.

Its tough because if Broberg turns out to be a top 4 RD it would be pretty stupid to walk away from him. The d market is incredibly thin especially at RD.

But at 4.6 for a team that’s right against the cap, that’s a really difficult decision to make. Theres a chance that Broberg is just a bottom pairing dman.

I guess kudos to the Blues for putting us in a tough spot.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Honestly, this screams hatred towards Bowman and I'm not even a little bit surprised. Such a terrible hire and now this little welcome bonus. I could be wrong but doesn't seem like a coincidence to me

NHL should investigate collusion but I doubt this has anything to do with Bowman.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

You guys can’t be serious. They aren’t losing both players.

Wake up everybody

They're definitely losing Broberg and will have to make some moves to keep Holloway because nobody's going to do the Oilers a favour.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Dubas resents the Oilers signing Hyman.

Blues are still bitter over “wakey wakey Backes”.

That’s all I got lol.

What about Backes?