Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[Broberg Speed]

I’ll echo what some other posters have been saying. Lose the players, take the picks- add at the deadline

As it should be. It's a veteran team expected to win the Stanley Cup. Neither of these players are currently worth that type of money. Those are contracts for rebuilding teams.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

???? I've barely been on here all summer and have probably made under 10 posts regarding anything so I'm not sure what you're getting at

I meant the whole karma thing from a handful of posters. Not just you.

 

[McDrai]

No brainer to match both, you can move them later if need be.

Trade Ceci and Kulak, problem solved.

Kulak is a solid dman. Have no issues with him at all. Ceci is overpaid for sure. Would definitely not move both in hopes of Broberg replicating what he had shown in the small playoff sample size

 

[Pavel10]

Funny part is one of the "positives" the Bowman boosters were pushing how well connected and respected he is in the league. That these kind of things wouldnt happen with him at the helm.

Glad that nonsense narrative has been put to rest.

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

I think the fact they signed the offer sheets at those values after a good chunk of the UFAs resigned at discounts says more about what their priorities are than anything. Just let them go.

 

[Oilhawks]

Funny part is one of the "positives" the Bowman boosters were pushing how well connected and respected he is in the league. That these kind of things wouldnt happen with him at the helm.

Glad that nonsense narrative has been put to rest.

Maybe in the wonderful world that you’ve created in your brilliant mind

The same one where Broberg saved the Oilers from losing the series vs the Canucks

 

[SupremeTeam16]

With Stauffer and Rishaug now confirming Kane is likely going on LTIR, we can probably afford one but not both.

Walking away on Holloway seems like a no brainer to me. I've never seen the long term upside in the player- I think he's a bottom 6 forward in his prime, and this year he's likely a 4th liner with limited special teams time. In no world can I justify paying him 2.3 when Brown and Janmark make less than 1.5. It sucks to lose him for a third, but I think you can find a comparable or even better player in the $1-1.5 million range, either now or at the deadline.

Broberg is a lot tougher for me. If he can continue to play in the top 4, $4.5 for two years is a bargain. Top 4D are at a premium, particularly if they can play the right side. He's also got a much higher upside, and plays at inarguably our biggest position of need in both the short and long term. In the short term, if we walk away from him we have Ceci and Brown as our second and third d for the season, which is a disaster. We can hope for an upgrade at the deadline, but I hoped for the same last year and it didn't happen. I'm much more nervous about losing him than I am Holloway. Having said that, the risk is obviously higher as well. If he drops the ball in camp the way he has the last few years, that's an anchor that really hurts your chances.

If it's me, I probably match Broberg and walk away on Holloway.

Broberg is the bigger risk though, the higher cap hit for two years limits you more and at the end you have a higher qualifying offer on a player with arb rights. The risk is compounded by the fact that he’s just put a ridiculous amount of pressure to perform on himself. If he crumbles you’re in a tough spot because you’re probably not gettting a 2nd for him if you can trade him at all. Likely you’re just not qualifying him and he walks for nothing.

If Broberg couldn’t grab a job by the horns before, I doubt he’s going to be able to do it now that an angry mob is going to be backing him towards the cliff.

 

[oXo Cube]

I'm not sure I agree Holloway is a more absorbable loss either.

RNH - McDavid - Hyman
Skinner - Draisaitl - Arvidsson
Holloway - Henrique - Brown
Janmark - Ryan - Perry

If Kane is going to miss most/all of the season and you also lose Holloway for a draft pick the forward depth we are all excited about suddenly starts to look pretty thin. Conversely on defense we have 3 certified lefties already and Stetcher as a workable option on the right side.

 

[KlefDown]

You literally cheered for the team to lose.

small price to pay for the greater good

acting like all Oilers fans weren't on board with actively tanking from 2010 - 2015. Back then we wanted them to lose to get better players, I wanted them to lose so our front office can get cleaned out

only difference is, you supported Holland & Co and now Bowman & Co. I don't and neither do a larger portion of the fanbase.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Holloway, McLeod, Broberg represent a lot of speed in the Oilers lineup. Just saying, and losing that, its not a good thing. Haven't seen a comment on that specifically.

Nor is the team again getting so much older a good thing.

not good news today

Its a trouble with going all the way to the Final though is everybody is watching your every player.

 

[Pavel10]

Maybe in the wonderful world that you’ve created in your brilliant mind

The same one where Broberg saved the Oilers from losing the series vs the Canucks

You're one step away from waiting for Sheldon Kennedy to say why these offersheets are a good thing.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

you can be fine blindly supporting every move this organization makes but not me, you do you though

Blind would be ignoring the facts of the matter but you do you. Kyle Beach is ok with his hiring then so am I but continue on your moral grandstand.

 

[KlefDown]

I meant the whole karma thing from a handful of posters. Not just you.

nah you won't hear it from me, I hate talking about Oilers management, I'll stick to on-ice for the most part

 

[Broberg Speed]

The Blues identified a gap in the Oiler salary structure and ability to sign 2 hipo players. You cant fault them for going after it with offer sheets. Yes it’s frustrating though.

Most exciting offseason ever. You never know what is going to happen next.

 

[foshizzle]

They are both gone, either its in 7 days or in a year or two. Broberg i kind of understand but Holloway really shanked the team in the back.

When McDavid and Bouchard are up

 

[Paralyzer008]

Holloway, McLeod, Broberg represent a lot of speed in the Oilers lineup. Just saying, and losing that, its not a good thing. Haven't seen a comment on that specifically.

Nor is the team again getting so much older a good thing.

not good news today

Its a trouble with going all the way to the Final though is everybody is watching your every player.

This is actually a big problem and why they need to match at least Holloway - I was already concerned about speed with McLeod gone and with Holloway also gone, that bottom six would be molasses and frankly will cost us games.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

small price to pay for the greater good

acting like all Oilers fans weren't on board with actively tanking from 2010 - 2015. Back then we wanted them to lose to get better players, I wanted them to lose so our front office can get cleaned out

only difference is, you supported Holland & Co and now Bowman & Co. I don't and neither do a larger portion of the fanbase.

It you don’t see the difference between cheering to lose when you are a lottery team and cheering to lose in a cup window with McDrai contracts coming up then I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I believe Jarventie would be stepping in before Savoie so yeah Holloway is replaceable. Broberg not really

Raphael Lavoie would probably get his shot before Savoie too.

 

[KlimasLoveChild]

I think it is either cut bait or furiously pursue a trade for a legitimate top 4 dman with Broberg and Holloway involved. I’m not sure how well this goes over in the room now that we have a good chunk of our vets signing for discounts. In fact if you match these and stand pat maybe drai decides he want’s market value and the whole idea of taking discounts gets thrown out the window. I think anyway you slice it these guys don’t play as oilers again.

 

[ManofSteel55]

No brainer to match both, you can move them later if need be.

Trade Ceci and Kulak, problem solved.

Not for a full year.

 

[Broberg Speed]

This is actually a big problem and why they need to match at least Holloway - I was already concerned about speed with McLeod gone and with Holloway also gone, that bottom six would be molasses and frankly will cost us games.

There are other moves that can be made if you are just looking for speed.

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

I wonder if these offer sheets even happen if Bowman isn't our GM.

This s a really interesting comment

 

[Drivesaitl]

This is actually a big problem and why they need to match at least Holloway - I was already concerned about speed with McLeod gone and with Holloway also gone, that bottom six would be molasses and frankly will cost us games.

Player speed is that kind of thing that can be an element that you don't know how much it means till its gone. All 3 of the players brought elements that were giving opponents some trouble in playoffs.

 

[FlameChampion]

I think I is either cut bait or furiously pursue a trade for a legitimate top 4 dman with Broberg and Holloway involved. I’m not sure how well this goes over in the room now that we have a good chunk of our vets signing for discounts. In fact if you match these and stand pat maybe drai decides he want’s market value and the whole idea of taking discounts gets thrown out the window. I think anyway you slice it these guys don’t play as oilers again.

Can only trade them in a year from now. Team either matches or they don’t.

Player speed is that kind of thing that can be an element that you don't know how much it means till its gone. All 3 of the players brought elements that were giving opponents some trouble in playoffs.

Unfortunately the Blues have put us in a bad spot.

Difficult to match these contracts especially Brobergs.

Guess we will see what Jackson/Bowman’s plan are.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I'm a big believer in karma so this is really funny to me

hire a scumbag GM, lose your top 2 young guys

I hate this song. Hate it. I seldom use the word hate but this post deserves to get this song. As punishment.