Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[Slats432]

What the f*** are people talking about Stan Bowman here? Jeff Jackson didn't just get fired into the Sun yesterday.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

I think both players are important but Bromberg especially. Takes years to develop an NHL ready defenseman. I like Holloway a lot but we are full of offense although he does bring the speed. Don't blame the players for signing.I blame the fkn Blues for being pricks.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I lost respect for Holloway and Broberg especially what we had going on after game 7 finals.

Don't even want Holloway back. Not a team player. Go sink in that trash blues team bud

Have fun.

 

[Oilhawks]

Holloway annoys me a lot, understand the position you are in with major contender, you are a key low cost piece that can help a team win a cup, he would eventually get paid, the offer sheet isn’t even that much.

Yup, his is the worst. It’s not a great offer and could cost him money down the road (feels like a McLeod type of contract). Broberg’s is a lot (too much) money, tough to turn down for a guy that was up and down all year and didn’t even play full time until the Dallas series

 

[Canovin]

Honestly I hate the 2 years. If it was 5 years, it would be great actually. St. Louis knew exactly what they were doing and I bet Chia was behind it

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Yup. Again, I don’t see either player finishing their contract here if they match. Will no longer fit in the lockerroom and blue collar fanbase will be disgusted with them putting the team in a bad spot

disagree
Aho signed an offer sheet with the Habs and there's no animosity in Carolina

don't blame the players cause other GMs are stupid enough to give them a ton of money....no one would refuse that

I bet they're hoping the Oilers match

 

[oobga]

Did they know triple the offer was coming? Probably not, but would I fire my agent if they signed me to $1.5M contract that could be signed at the end of September instead of waiting to see if something did come my way? Yes I would.

Come on now...

Imagine Broberg was going to be very difficult no matter what this summer. Being given a handful of games out of complete desperation probably doesn't change much for his loyalty to the org. BUT getting 1.101 PDO luck in that bit of ice time sure was something he could take advantage of. Only a few Canucks players were even close to BroBeast in how fortunate his playoff ice time was.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I understand being annoyed, but I don't get being mad at the players.

Oilers priorities this offseason...

Working on Drai.
Signing....Janmark, Henrique, Skinner, Arvidsson, Stetcher, Hamblin, Perry, Brown, other Brown, Pickard, Carrick, Dineen, Philp.
Trading Bourgault, Trading McLeod.

So if you are the players, where do you feel the organization places you on the level of importance....well after signing several 7th dmen, you might feel like you are not their priority.

It depends on how you look at it.

They were given contract offers by the Oilers. They chose not to sign them but see what St Louis was going to offer, as the Blues were in contact with both player agents.

Its funny that fans think if they aren't reading about ongoing talks on X from "insiders" that management has gone fishing and is doing nothing.

 

[McShogun99]

I'd match the offer sheet then trade both of them next summer. This really puts a wrench in the teams plans for next season and could effect us winning a cup this year.

 

[Oilhawks]

disagree
Aho signed an offer sheet with the Habs and there's no animosity in Carolina

don't blame the players cause other GMs are stupid enough to give them a ton of money....no one would refuse that

I bet they're hoping the Oilers match

I mean it feels like it in the sense that Kotkaniemi wasn’t worth it

If the bold is true, I expect them to be disappointed

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I've been a believer in Broberg from draft day. But I just think a cap crunched window team is going to choose cap freedom and a shitty lottery ticket to find a more advanced d-man at trade deadline. They have to hope a right-handed Bo Ackey can grow into a prospective NHL d-man in a mid-range timeframe and similar hope for Wanner who's closer but with less upside.

Oilers won't be steamrolled. It's an NHL big money driver operation. This is business they always knew was a viable risk balancing window cash poor with sustaining it through a shallow prospect pool.

We'll see what the organization does and ultimately it comes down to how they perceive Broberg's value to this franchise now and years to come at a $4.5 million aav price tag.

EDIT: I kinda think Holloway is a no brainer to match at that price tag and essentially zero value that a 3rd round pick has to return a prospective NHL talent. This is a calculated strike to get a young NHL ready pedigree d-man with upside.

Yes the play here is to get Broberg knowing the team will probably match on Holloway.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Don't even want Holloway back. Not a team player. Go sink in that trash blues team bud

Have fun.

People think it's just about money but it's also about opportunity that he's not likely to get here.

 

[alanschu]

You think the players held out with 89 games played????

Given the cap situation, absolutely. In Broberg's case especially it likely paid off big time.

My understanding is teams could have reached out to the players to sound offer sheets as early as July 1.

 

[DrDrai]

Honestly I hate the 2 years. If it was 5 years, it would be great actually. St. Louis knew exactly what they were doing and I bet Chia was behind it

If either of them aren’t matched I only hope the worst for their careers.

People think it's just about money but it's also about opportunity that he's not likely to get here.

It shows me that they don’t care about the opportunity to win a cup.

You players play this game if money early, not to chase the cup when they can’t make an impact at an older age. It’s backwards.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I mean it feels like it in the sense that Kotkaniemi wasn’t worth it

If the bold is true, I expect them to be disappointed

the Kotkaniemi offer sheet was a pure "spite" move by the Canes because Aho signed an offer sheet from the Habs

this is different IMO....its calculated by the Blues to take advantage of a cap-strapped team and getting good young players into their organization

 

[Wretched Oil]

I'd match the offer sheet then trade both of them next summer. This really puts a wrench in the teams plans for next season and could effect us winning a cup this year.

Neither of them played in the top 6/ top 4 pump the brakes.

Let them go, they signed the papers its over.

 

[Sra1974]

People think it's just about money but it's also about opportunity that he's not likely to get here.

Yeah I mean the opportunity to miss the playoffs vs potentially being in a cup winner.

 

[CupofOil]

Yup. Again, I don’t see either player finishing their contract here if they match. Will no longer fit in the lockerroom and blue collar fanbase will be disgusted with them putting the team in a bad spot

That anger by the fanbase would be misdirected then. You can't blame either guy for taking the big money put in front of them, we would have all done the same if we're being honest because you just never know, you could get a career ending injury any time and then it's over.
Don't blame anybody, especially young guys who haven't made the big money yet, for taking the first big offer that comes their way especially Broberg in this scenario.

The anger should be reserved for the guy that signed Nurse and Campbell to those contracts, that's the main reason why the Oilers are in this predicament.
It's not Jeff Jackson or Bowman's fault, it's not Holloway or Broberg's fault. This is one is on good ole Kenny.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Sort of confused why Army made this move, especially given the amount of defensemen we signed this offseason plus players we had before free agency. To my knowledge, I don't know if Armstrong had ever in his career offer-sheeted a player, let alone two. The only time I remember him being part of one was when Backes was offer-sheeted by the Canucks, but that was over a decade ago.

I understand the move strategically, but in like a moral/karma sense I don't personally like it. It's not like the Oilers are going to forget we offer-sheeted two of their players, but hey, we didn't really do anything to Vancouver. Whether or not they both come to St Louis, I hope they do well. Idk man, sorry guys

Revenge for how well Kostin played for us and how Samourkov played for the blues

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Match Holloway, let Broberg walk.

Sucks, but I'm honestly not surprised with Broberg. He asked for a trade not even a year ago. I think he wants to play on his natural side and the Oilers don't have room for that.

 

[Zerotonine]

What the f*** are people talking about Stan Bowman here? Jeff Jackson didn't just get fired into the Sun yesterday.

Bowman is your new scapegoat. Any thing positive will go right to Jackson name, all the negative will fall on bowmans shoulder's. On the oilers forum and even more so on the mains. Even the mains are laughing and saying we'll deserved

 

[Oilhawks]

the Kotkaniemi offer sheet was a pure "spite" move by the Canes because Aho signed an offer sheet from the Habs

this is different IMO....its calculated by the Blues to take advantage of a cap-strapped team and getting good young players into their organization

Yes it was for spite, my point is that these are overpays (especially the unproven Broberg).

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Bye bye boys, u sign contracts like that after watching vets take less to win a culture set by mcdavid and Drai they won’t be wanted in that dressing room, they are gone.

Yup. I would tell both of their agents to wish them well and have fun losing

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

the Kotkaniemi offer sheet was a pure "spite" move by the Canes because Aho signed an offer sheet from the Habs

this is different IMO....its calculated by the Blues to take advantage of a cap-strapped team and getting good young players into their organization

Yup, you see a weakness in a team you attack it. Teams take advantage of cap strapped teams all the time.

Yeah I mean the opportunity to miss the playoffs vs potentially being in a cup winner.

Broberg getting paid probably 3x what he would have made here while also getting more playing time... Not exactly a super difficult decision.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Holloway annoys me a lot, understand the position you are in with major contender, you are a key low cost piece that can help a team win a cup, he would eventually get paid, the offer sheet isn’t even that much.

I don't understand why Holloway and his agent agreed to be the second fiddle in this play. He played more playoffs games and yet agreed to take the $2M/season contract instead of the demanding to be the one who gets $4M.