Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[Oilhawks]

Yeah, Holloway is probably kicking himself right now for being convinced to sign.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1825311633499156923

Yup, every time I've watched him play he has quite the motor (even if not the fleetest of foot). About as close you can get to a "Holloway replacement" (different players, but some similarities) at the price point, pedigree and age being pretty much the same.

 

[McBooya42]

High praise from JT Miller at least:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1558871381990936577

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

Reading speculation Edmonton might tell the Blues they are gonna match on Broberg unless they traded a first for a mid prospect.

That would be genius from Bowman.

Interesting but I wouldn’t call it genius though.
St Louis just says “ok, keep him” they save themselves from paying double for a player and we end up in an extra bit of cap hell paying a player that doesn’t want to be here double his worth

 

[iCanada]

Interesting but I wouldn’t call it genius though.
St Louis just says “ok, keep him” they save themselves from paying double for a player and we end up in an extra bit of cap hell paying a player that doesn’t want to be here double his worth

Yeah this is kind of how I see it.

Idk if the Blues would be willing to play ball there. But maybe I'm wrong.

 

[JeffSkinner53]

Why keep Broberg if he already asked to be traded. Respectfully.

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

Kostin friends with Podz? Maybe he hypes him up for this trade

 

[bellagiobob]

Why keep Broberg if he already asked to be traded. Respectfully.

Depends on who Bro had issues with. If it was with the former coach and GM, then fences can be mended. If was with the players, then that’s a different story.

 

[Oilhawks]

Why keep Broberg if he already asked to be traded. Respectfully.

Not to defend him, but from what I recall that was when he was sitting and not playing (in the NHL or AHL).

 

[iCanada]

Not to defend him, but from what I recall that was when he was sitting and not playing (in the NHL or AHL).

I mean, at a certain point, he's asked for a trade multiple times and now signed an offer sheet.

He does clearly just not want to be here.

 

[brentashton]

I mean, at a certain point, he's asked for a trade multiple times and now signed an offer sheet.

He does clearly just not want to be here.

True. But signing the offer sheet was as much or more about getting wealthy fast as it was about anything else, I think.

 

[McBooya42]

Yeah this is kind of how I see it.

Idk if the Blues would be willing to play ball there. But maybe I'm wrong.

I guess it would depend on how badly they want him.

 

[Oilhawks]

True. But signing the offer sheet was as much or more about getting wealthy fast as it was about anything else, I think.

Yup, unfortunately most players in his position would have signed it, regardless of “feelings”

 

[McBooya42]

Depends on who Bro had issues with. If it was with the former coach and GM, then fences can be mended. If was with the players, then that’s a different story.

I'd agree with this. If it was Holland and Woody, they're gone.

 

[oilexport]

Broberg probably said bring me up to the show or trade me. If that was the problem, it's a non-issue going forward.

He was thrown into the fire and excelled in the playoffs. His potential and ability were clear when I watched him.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Why keep Broberg if he already asked to be traded. Respectfully.

Because Paul Coffey will continue to work with him and make him a top 4 d-man
He’s been a great coach for the D so far

 

[Senor Catface]

Yup, unfortunately most players in his position would have signed it, regardless of “feelings”

Yeah, can't blame the guy for taking a huge raise like that. Holloway though...something irks me a bit with what he accepted from St. Louis compared to a likely contract with the Oilers.

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

I guess it would depend on how badly they want him.

It appears they wanted him enough to sign him to an offer sheet with a number that puts us in a bind either way but was literally a dollar short of extra compensation

 

[Mr Positive]

Why keep Broberg if he already asked to be traded. Respectfully.

Because the reason behind his request matters. Friedman brought this up too. It's easy to look at Bouchard and think better of him because he never requested a trade, but the team bent over backwards for him and put him in the ultimate position to succeed, and we did this before he proved himself. Friedman pointed out that the issue with Broberg is his role. He doesn't feel that the Oilers really take him seriously. Matching this offer sheet would show that we are serious and sort of forces Knoblauch to give him the same kind of opportunity we gifted Bouchard. So we'd have two years to have Broberg get what he wants.

And to be clear, in that scenario both sides win. We are talking about exploring Broberg's potential instead of riding Ceci/Kulak above their pay grade yet again

 

[Heavy Dee]

Interesting but I wouldn’t call it genius though.
St Louis just says “ok, keep him” they save themselves from paying double for a player and we end up in an extra bit of cap hell paying a player that doesn’t want to be here double his worth

Because St Louis have zero left side dmen.

 

[Mr Positive]

Interesting but I wouldn’t call it genius though.
St Louis just says “ok, keep him” they save themselves from paying double for a player and we end up in an extra bit of cap hell paying a player that doesn’t want to be here double his worth

Imo the Blues think hes worth more than that. The Oilers probably do to. The only issue for the Oilers is if the cap makes it impossible

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

Because St Louis have zero left side dmen.

There are other better value options available as has been discussed at nauseam in this very thread
Hell
There are some here who wholeheartedly agree that 500k and a 7th will fetch such pieces

Imo the Blues think hes worth more than that. The Oilers probably do to. The only issue for the Oilers is if the cap makes it impossible

He’s worth paying 4.5 M a year and giving up a first and a 3rd?
I dunno
Maybe

 

[Oilhawks]

Yeah, can't blame the guy for taking a huge raise like that. Holloway though...something irks me a bit with what he accepted from St. Louis compared to a likely contract with the Oilers.

Yup, I think he got played by his agent / Blues / played himself.

Not a lot more money and probably some long term regrets down the road.

 

[McBooya42]

Imo the Blues think hes worth more than that. The Oilers probably do to. The only issue for the Oilers is if the cap makes it impossible

If we let Holloway go, match Broberg, and put Kane on LTIR, we are only over the cap by 835,073. Brown goes to the AHL and we're compliant, no? I'm not sure If I'm understanding this correctly.

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[McBooya42]

If we let Holloway go, match Broberg, and put Kane on LTIR, we are only over the cap by 835,073. Brown goes to the AHL and we're compliant, no? I'm not sure If I'm understanding this correctly.

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So to be compliant with Kane returning, it'd have to be Kulak and Ceci out and what Barrie as 2nd pairing RHD with Nurse at 1millionx1?

 

[Mikey71]

One part I don’t understand is how much of Kanes salary would be left on the cap when he came back. Would we be less over the later he took to come back or would we be over his full salary regardless when he came back?