BlueDream
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“Yall ain't getting broberg!!! Hahahahaha” - @Captain Controversy 8/17/24
The $ overpay doesn’t matter over the next 2 years. What matters is where the team will be after that. Either Holloway+Broberg works out or they move on without giving up much with no implications cap wise long term.The money saved from dumping Hayes (vs keeping him in the AHL where I am assuming he would be regardless) is already in the equation
Hayes in AHL= 2.4 mill cap hit x 2. Moving him then = approx 5 mill in savings.
You add 6 mill you took on in Joseph, down 1 mill total
And then you have overpaid Holloway by about 2 mill, and broberg by about 5.6 mill compared to what they were asking for.
In total, 8 mill.
If you want to take out the AHL component, 6 mill total
You gutted your teams depth for PLD just to trade him a season later lmao kings don’t even have a window now
I wonder what tipped the scales in our favor assuming the money offered by other teams was similar. The Steen factor, or perhaps the guarantee of getting plenty of ice time on a young up-and-coming team. I wouldn't be surprised if Steen's Swedish influence had at least something to do with it. He may know Broberg personally already.
This may have already been explained in this thread but as a net result of all these moves (Podkolzin, Ceci/Emberson, RFAs), what is Edmonton cap situation to address the blueline...either with a healthy Kane or Kane LTIRed...?
How much wiggle room do they have now to go out and add a defender or two?
perhaps not but the Oilers played most of the season and playoff with....During the season?!?!?! I think its more between now and training camp. That is not a Stanley Cup playoff defense.
If money over the next 2 years doesn't matter why did St Louis pay to dump Kevin Hayes salary over the next 2 yearsThe $ overpay doesn’t matter over the next 2 years. What matters is where the team will be after that. Either Holloway+Broberg works out or they move on without giving up much with no implications cap wise long term.
TBF the Oilers did get a player back Ty Emberson, in this transaction with the Sharks. Perhaps they like him?So why dump Ceci?
If money over the next 2 years doesn't matter why did St Louis pay to dump Kevin Hayes salary over the next 2 years
They viewed Hayes to be a warm body who didn’t fit in with the construction of the team out of a rebuild.If money over the next 2 years doesn't matter why did St Louis pay to dump Kevin Hayes salary over the next 2 years
So when you've given up 2nd+2nd+3rd+3rd+3rd+prospect you're in fact actually quite likely to be giving up an NHLer making 950k?I think we just have to agree to disagree.
2nd rounders have a roughly 15% to 17% of having a NHL career.
That's like 1 in every 6 2nd rounders.
Sure NHL teams are 'unprofitable' as they sell there team for a billion dollars and recoup all losses.
Broberg is a NHL defensemen Many Edmonton fans were pumped about his play.
Is he overpaid this year? Yes
Does that make him not a NHler? NO.
Did the Blues just get a asset worth more than a 2nd? Yes
If money over the next 2 years doesn't matter why did St Louis pay to dump Kevin Hayes salary over the next 2 years
And if the money didn't matter why did Armstrong not eat 50% and save a 2nd round pick?Because he was slow, didn’t fit in well, and has ties to the Tkachuks. Armstrong very clearly also factors in a players desire with a lot of trades. Fabbri/Kostin etc
I’m not going to say any of us were thrilled about it. But not having last years version of Hayes is a win for us. He paid a bit extra to do right by the player though like it or not.
Sombody is salty.Congrats to the Blues for marginally improving your team but making every GM hate you
Yup and they will have no issues attracting them as long as they keep McD and Drai around.Oilers were in no position to give Broberg and Holloway those salaries in the next 2 years. They need cheap players.
and if money over the next 2 years doesn't matter, why did Armstrong not retain 50% and save a 2nd round pick? (and a 3rd when he had to trade for it back)You want to pay money to guys that can actually help your team win, not guys who won't. Plus, he didn't fit here and moving Hayes was as much a favor to him as anything else. Army basically said that he likes Hayes as a person and wanted to send him somewhere where he might fit in better.
Not sure what you're trying to prove with your convoluted math equations but pretty sure most Blues fans are ok with what's transpired here.
They were 5 points out lsst year. Team is better so possiblyDoes this make the Blues a playoff team?
And so, to save money in the next 2 years (which apparently doesn't matter), they paid a 2nd round pick (and a 3rd when they needed that pick back) to dump his salaryThey viewed Hayes to be a warm body who didn’t fit in with the construction of the team out of a rebuild.
Apparently ye is worth 4.5 or did ypu not get the memoYup and they will have no issues attracting them as long as they keep McD and Drai around.
Broberg is going to be overpaid for a while considering his QO in 2yrs. He was worth 2M x2 for next couple yrs.