Post-Game Talk: Oil flooding the infirmary
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OfCorsiDid
Ah shit, here we go again
Woah woah woah, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water here, he has a point.
The last 5 years this place has become IMMENSELY toxic and especially so in the last year. Look at the the thread page numbers. PGTs from losses are typically have 3 or 4 times the amount of posts than PGTs from wins. And there’s a massive amount of users (again most have accounts that were created < 5 years ago) who ONLY appear when we lose. You think that’s a healthy community?
And that’s not even the most unacceptable part. How many times have you seen people post on PGTs or GDTs where they say something along the lines of “I hope the Oilers lose because of X”? I’ve seen probably 3 or 4 in the last week alone. If I was a moderator here that would be an automatic ban from HFOil. We are Oilers fans. If you aren’t cheering for the team you can f*** all the way off. Criticsm is fine. But to say you want the team to lose because they chose to start the goalie you don’t like is not acceptable.
I remember how miserable it was when we missed the playoffs in 2018 and 2019. We dreamt of a time where we are at the top of the league and a contender to win the cup. Now we’re there and somehow this place is factors of 10 more miserable than it was when we sucked. Like we literally have active firing personnel threads when we are fighting for first in the division. Do you know how disconnected from reality you have to be to think that’s even a reasonable point of view?
But I guess HFOil is a good representation of how society has deteriorated since the pandemic. Nobody is interested in positivity or success. They only seek to tear things down. To bring others down to their level because they’re miserable. And yes I can absolutely leave if I “get too worked up” but there’s good people here too with good insights and great conversation. How is it fair that I should leave this community over this infestation of f***ing idiots?
Anyways, rant over.
PitkanensGitch
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Pickard has had a significantly better SV% than Skinner in both years he has been here, and it's not close either. In the playoffs it is even more exaggerated. I'll put some numbers up quick.
2023/2024 regular season
Pickard: .909
Skinner: .904
2023/2024 playoffs
Pickard .915
Skinner .901
2024/25 regular season
Pickard .902
Skinner .896
These numbers aren't close. Hedging our bets on Skinner being the future of goaltending here in Edmonton is absurd considering his lack of athleticism and failure to rise to the situation. He has been outplayed not only by Pickard who was a fringe NHL backup, but we can go further. He was outplayed thoroughly by Jack Campbell of all people in the playoffs.
2022/2023 playoffs
Campbell: .961 (4gp)
Skinner: .883 (12gp)
The only time he has outplayed a goaltender in the NHL was him beating out a severely mentally ill Jack Campbell who had no business being in the NHL to begin with, and was subsequently put into the assistance program never to be seen again due to mental health issues.
Pickard should be playing with more regularity. The leash has ended on Skinner. I can't fathom why after this breadth of data and time do we plan on playing Skinner as a starter in the NHL. Pickard has proven himself to be significantly more reliable even if he isn't the flashy, home-grown prospect. He is significantly better and every metric backs this up.
OfCorsiDid
Ah shit, here we go again
It’s not rocket science at this point. Our goalies are set. Just ride the hot hand.
You post a SV% above .900 you get the next start (b2b excluded). If you don’t the other guy starts.
KCC
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Stu with another brutal game. 13 saves on 16 measly shots before the concussion protocol. When is knobblauch going to realize skinner is trash? If pickard isn’t the starter come playoff time this team doesn’t stand a chance. Not that said pickard is likely a starter but they sure as heck stand a better chance with him in net for a few months than Stu. Gotta cross our fingers.
You do realize it’s a small sample size for the playoffs, and the majority of Pickards starts in his time here are against teams in the bottom 10.
Salvaged Ship
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Our top players need to be healthy for the playoffs to even have a prayer. Third place in the division with a healthy McDavid and Drai is a hell of a lot better than second place and these 2 are playing injured round 1. Rest them until they are healthy.
Jimmi McJenkins
Sometimes miracles
So if McDavid is out, you re-call Savoie, they need a top-6 forward, let him run with the boys. If Stu is out, call up Rodrigue, see if he has NHL game or not.
This is rough, but the way the team responded without him in the 3rd was pretty impressive, I think they can weather things short-ish term. But If they're missing McDrai for a while, they'll be in tough.
This is rough, but the way the team responded without him in the 3rd was pretty impressive, I think they can weather things short-ish term. But If they're missing McDrai for a while, they'll be in tough.
GMofOilers
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Not my fault Skinner has 6 wins in his last 15 games played, 6 wins.
Elite trash goalie that should be sent down
Elite trash goalie that should be sent down
joestevens29
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End of the day you tell me Drai out all game and McDavid out for third and I would've been thrilled with 1 point going into the game.
Winnipeg is a damn good team there is a reason they have the most wins right now.
Biggest disappointment was lack of response towards Morrissey. The guy played over 27 minutes last night. Can't tell me there wasn't a couple times they could've given him that extra love tap or hit him a bit late. Don't care about taking a penalty or if Morrissey didn't mean to hit McDavid there. Those little slashes are absolutely dangerous with a lot of guys having wrists broken from them. Not enough to warrant suspensions, but they should warrant a decent response from a club
Winnipeg is a damn good team there is a reason they have the most wins right now.
Biggest disappointment was lack of response towards Morrissey. The guy played over 27 minutes last night. Can't tell me there wasn't a couple times they could've given him that extra love tap or hit him a bit late. Don't care about taking a penalty or if Morrissey didn't mean to hit McDavid there. Those little slashes are absolutely dangerous with a lot of guys having wrists broken from them. Not enough to warrant suspensions, but they should warrant a decent response from a club
brentashton
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Can anyone help me understand how Arvidsson played in 3 on 3 ot but the guy who was putting the puck in the net (JSkinner)was stapled to the bench?
I realize one is a better skater but jeebus the other guy has zero chance of scoring.
I realize one is a better skater but jeebus the other guy has zero chance of scoring.
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russ99
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One other bright spot from a rough third period was Nuge doing pretty well as a #1 center. It’s past time we stop this crutch of using him at LW.
russ99
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Not sure you saw that graphic during the game but the Kings are like 25-0-2 when scoring three or more goals, and our team defense is a sieve and we got a flopping shaky goalie. We got a lot more to worry about than just home ice advantage.
joestevens29
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Think it really comes down to the skating. Although when I saw Arvidsson i was wondering why and then I started to think who the hell else was a legit option lol. Podkolzin? Although sometimes I have as much confidence in him offensively as I would a guy like Patrick Stefan on a breakaway with and open net
ThePhoenixx
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joestevens29
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Jeff Skinner's usage has really been getting to me and even know that he's getting the time it drives me nuts.
For years we try find top 6 forwards for Connor and Leon. Bring in Skinner who's been a consistent goal scorer the past few years, but don't give him a legit shot to play with those guys.
At what point do Connor and Leon stop having a say in who they want to play with and be forced to try the guys that the GM is identified as potential fits?
Not saying Skinner is going to be the answer, but apparently he's been on of our better 5 on 5 goal scorers this calendar year.
For years we try find top 6 forwards for Connor and Leon. Bring in Skinner who's been a consistent goal scorer the past few years, but don't give him a legit shot to play with those guys.
At what point do Connor and Leon stop having a say in who they want to play with and be forced to try the guys that the GM is identified as potential fits?
Not saying Skinner is going to be the answer, but apparently he's been on of our better 5 on 5 goal scorers this calendar year.
joestevens29
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I really liked their response. It's good to see that the team actually gets that they need to give effort every shift.
bucks_oil
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100% agree.
There are some really toxic, out-of-touch, or just plain depressing personalities on here... far worse nowadays then a decade ago when we were having "optimist vs realist" debates... at least during the Decade of Darkness people had a real excuse to be constantly critical.
At least old timers like... you know who you are.... have grown embittered by decades of Oilfan-abuse. I'll give them a pass.
The younger posters who grew up DURING the McDavid years and don't remember having Josef Beranek as their 1st line center really need to climb their way back UP to present reality.
Real Talk: we clawed our way back to even and earned a point in a very tightly checked game against the #1 team in the league and did it without two of the best players to play this sport in 30 years, who we get to witness nightly. And all THREE goalies were reasonably human. That's hockey.
bucks_oil
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Yeah... even when he's not scoring, he's far better as a center IMO. Let Henrique patrol the 4th line with a combo of Janmark, Brown, Perry, Podkolzin. I'd run three 5v5 lines that can outscore and a 4th that can saw off competition:
Skinner McD Hyman
Kane Drai Perry/Podkolzin/Savoie
Arvidsson RNH Frederic
Janmark Henrique Brown (or one of above RW)
joestevens29
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It's only going to get worse. Year over year attention spans are shrinking and people are actually watching less and less of full games and more clips
People have a hard time watching their own team play a full game let alone actually watching other games not including the Oilers. If people watched more of other teams they'd see a lot of issues that we face are similar to other clubs.
joestevens29
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Playing center automatically forces him to be more engaged where as with McDavid he kind of is floating on the wing just waiting for something to happen
I don't think anyone has really mentioned what an awesome game Podz had yesterday. He's definitely not a top 6 guy, but he really has been shining in the bottom 6 and PK. He's being used effectively and we see the results!
