Post-Game Talk: Oil flooding the infirmary

[joestevens29]

Oilers played well after McDavid went down.

I really liked their response. It's good to see that the team actually gets that they need to give effort every shift.

 

[bucks_oil]

Woah woah woah, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water here, he has a point.

The last 5 years this place has become IMMENSELY toxic and especially so in the last year. Look at the the thread page numbers. PGTs from losses are typically have 3 or 4 times the amount of posts than PGTs from wins. And there’s a massive amount of users (again most have accounts that were created < 5 years ago) who ONLY appear when we lose. You think that’s a healthy community?

And that’s not even the most unacceptable part. How many times have you seen people post on PGTs or GDTs where they say something along the lines of “I hope the Oilers lose because of X”? I’ve seen probably 3 or 4 in the last week alone. If I was a moderator here that would be an automatic ban from HFOil. We are Oilers fans. If you aren’t cheering for the team you can f*** all the way off. Criticsm is fine. But to say you want the team to lose because they chose to start the goalie you don’t like is not acceptable.

I remember how miserable it was when we missed the playoffs in 2018 and 2019. We dreamt of a time where we are at the top of the league and a contender to win the cup. Now we’re there and somehow this place is factors of 10 more miserable than it was when we sucked. Like we literally have active firing personnel threads when we are fighting for first in the division. Do you know how disconnected from reality you have to be to think that’s even a reasonable point of view?

But I guess HFOil is a good representation of how society has deteriorated since the pandemic. Nobody is interested in positivity or success. They only seek to tear things down. To bring others down to their level because they’re miserable. And yes I can absolutely leave if I “get too worked up” but there’s good people here too with good insights and great conversation. How is it fair that I should leave this community over this infestation of f***ing idiots?

Anyways, rant over.

100% agree.

There are some really toxic, out-of-touch, or just plain depressing personalities on here... far worse nowadays then a decade ago when we were having "optimist vs realist" debates... at least during the Decade of Darkness people had a real excuse to be constantly critical.

At least old timers like... you know who you are.... have grown embittered by decades of Oilfan-abuse. I'll give them a pass.

The younger posters who grew up DURING the McDavid years and don't remember having Josef Beranek as their 1st line center really need to climb their way back UP to present reality.

Real Talk: we clawed our way back to even and earned a point in a very tightly checked game against the #1 team in the league and did it without two of the best players to play this sport in 30 years, who we get to witness nightly. And all THREE goalies were reasonably human. That's hockey.

 

[bucks_oil]

One other bright spot from a rough third period was Nuge doing pretty well as a #1 center. It’s past time we stop this crutch of using him at LW.

Yeah... even when he's not scoring, he's far better as a center IMO. Let Henrique patrol the 4th line with a combo of Janmark, Brown, Perry, Podkolzin. I'd run three 5v5 lines that can outscore and a 4th that can saw off competition:

Skinner McD Hyman
Kane Drai Perry/Podkolzin/Savoie
Arvidsson RNH Frederic
Janmark Henrique Brown (or one of above RW)

 

[joestevens29]

100% agree.

There are some really toxic, out-of-touch, or just plain depressing personalities on here... far worse nowadays then a decade ago when we were having "optimist vs realist" debates... at least during the Decade of Darkness people had a real excuse to be constantly critical.

At least old timers like... you know who you are.... have grown embittered by decades of Oilfan-abuse. I'll give them a pass.

The younger posters who grew up DURING the McDavid years and don't remember having Josef Beranek as their 1st line center really need to climb their way back UP to present reality.

Real Talk: we clawed our way back to even and earned a point in a very tightly checked game against the #1 team in the league and did it without two of the best players to play this sport in 30 years, who we get to witness nightly. And all THREE goalies were reasonably human. That's hockey.

It's only going to get worse. Year over year attention spans are shrinking and people are actually watching less and less of full games and more clips

People have a hard time watching their own team play a full game let alone actually watching other games not including the Oilers. If people watched more of other teams they'd see a lot of issues that we face are similar to other clubs.

 

[joestevens29]

Yeah... even when he's not scoring, he's far better as a center IMO. Let Henrique patrol the 4th line with a combo of Janmark, Brown, Perry, Podkolzin. I'd run three 5v5 lines that can outscore and a 4th that can saw off competition:

Skinner McD Hyman
Kane Drai Perry/Podkolzin/Savoie
Arvidsson RNH Frederic
Janmark Henrique Brown (or one of above RW)

Playing center automatically forces him to be more engaged where as with McDavid he kind of is floating on the wing just waiting for something to happen

 

[slaman]

I don't think anyone has really mentioned what an awesome game Podz had yesterday. He's definitely not a top 6 guy, but he really has been shining in the bottom 6 and PK. He's being used effectively and we see the results!

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Not my fault Skinner has 6 wins in his last 15 games played, 6 wins.

Elite trash goalie that should be sent down

I'm surprised you are celebrating him being hurt, you seem even more confused Tambo

 

[Canovin]

I'm surprised you are celebrating him being hurt, you seem even more confused Tambo

An emergency call up for Rodrigue may end up as a blessing in disguise

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Also, why are we mad at J-Skins usage? He played 17+ mins last night, he got his regular shifts. If anything he showed strongly that he belongs in the top-6.

As not using him in ot, I mean Walman and Nurse are much better skaters. It bit them in the ass, but I can understand the logic.

 

[Mr Positive]

I'd guess Skinner will be fine but McDavid will miss some time.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Gutsy performance, damn shame that Nurse seemed to screen Pickard on the OT winner.

And Nurse had a bone head to play to turn it over at the offensive blue line before that

 

[Mr Positive]

Also, why are we mad at J-Skins usage? He played 17+ mins last night, he got his regular shifts. If anything he showed strongly that he belongs in the top-6.

As not using him in ot, I mean Walman and Nurse are much better skaters. It bit them in the ass, but I can understand the logic.

Plus in OT it's just a crap shoot. I do think Skinner should have played though. Sometimes logic is good but there can be too much of it too. The simple answer is that Skinner is on and so why not roll with him?

 

[tardigrade81]

Bruins couldn't help us at all hey....

Ugh. Oh well

 

[McDrai]

I don't think anyone has really mentioned what an awesome game Podz had yesterday. He's definitely not a top 6 guy, but he really has been shining in the bottom 6 and PK. He's being used effectively and we see the results!

I like his compete level. Would definitely have him on a 4th line as the offense isn’t there with him

 

[bobbythebrain]

Woah woah woah, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water here, he has a point.

The last 5 years this place has become IMMENSELY toxic and especially so in the last year. Look at the the thread page numbers. PGTs from losses are typically have 3 or 4 times the amount of posts than PGTs from wins. And there’s a massive amount of users (again most have accounts that were created < 5 years ago) who ONLY appear when we lose. You think that’s a healthy community?

And that’s not even the most unacceptable part. How many times have you seen people post on PGTs or GDTs where they say something along the lines of “I hope the Oilers lose because of X”? I’ve seen probably 3 or 4 in the last week alone. If I was a moderator here that would be an automatic ban from HFOil. We are Oilers fans. If you aren’t cheering for the team you can f*** all the way off. Criticsm is fine. But to say you want the team to lose because they chose to start the goalie you don’t like is not acceptable.

I remember how miserable it was when we missed the playoffs in 2018 and 2019. We dreamt of a time where we are at the top of the league and a contender to win the cup. Now we’re there and somehow this place is factors of 10 more miserable than it was when we sucked. Like we literally have active firing personnel threads when we are fighting for first in the division. Do you know how disconnected from reality you have to be to think that’s even a reasonable point of view?

But I guess HFOil is a good representation of how society has deteriorated since the pandemic. Nobody is interested in positivity or success. They only seek to tear things down. To bring others down to their level because they’re miserable. And yes I can absolutely leave if I “get too worked up” but there’s good people here too with good insights and great conversation. How is it fair that I should leave this community over this infestation of f***ing idiots?

Anyways, rant over.

Good post.

Also during the pandemic everyone suddenly became a medical expert over nite.
Then they gave up their medical practices to become political experts in world affairs.
Once politics became boring, everybody seems to have shifted gears to self proclaimed analytics experts, who have double majors in goalie coaching.

 

[Satoru Gojo]

Bruins couldn't help us at all hey....

Ugh. Oh well

Yep, them and Chicago just cant do a damn thing right

 

[joestevens29]

I'd guess Skinner will be fine but McDavid will miss some time.

Did they say anything on Skinner after the game? I just assumed it was all concussion protocol as he appeared fine leaving.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Jeff Skinner's usage has really been getting to me and even know that he's getting the time it drives me nuts.

For years we try find top 6 forwards for Connor and Leon. Bring in Skinner who's been a consistent goal scorer the past few years, but don't give him a legit shot to play with those guys.

At what point do Connor and Leon stop having a say in who they want to play with and be forced to try the guys that the GM is identified as potential fits?

Not saying Skinner is going to be the answer, but apparently he's been on of our better 5 on 5 goal scorers this calendar year.

Well when the president and GM have to tell the HC how run his lines, that tells you everything about the coach.

 

[Canovin]

Did they say anything on Skinner after the game? I just assumed it was all concussion protocol as he appeared fine leaving.

Knob pulled him out just so the Oilers have a chance at 1 point

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Woah woah woah, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water here, he has a point.

The last 5 years this place has become IMMENSELY toxic and especially so in the last year. Look at the the thread page numbers. PGTs from losses are typically have 3 or 4 times the amount of posts than PGTs from wins. And there’s a massive amount of users (again most have accounts that were created < 5 years ago) who ONLY appear when we lose. You think that’s a healthy community?

And that’s not even the most unacceptable part. How many times have you seen people post on PGTs or GDTs where they say something along the lines of “I hope the Oilers lose because of X”? I’ve seen probably 3 or 4 in the last week alone. If I was a moderator here that would be an automatic ban from HFOil. We are Oilers fans. If you aren’t cheering for the team you can f*** all the way off. Criticsm is fine. But to say you want the team to lose because they chose to start the goalie you don’t like is not acceptable.

I remember how miserable it was when we missed the playoffs in 2018 and 2019. We dreamt of a time where we are at the top of the league and a contender to win the cup. Now we’re there and somehow this place is factors of 10 more miserable than it was when we sucked. Like we literally have active firing personnel threads when we are fighting for first in the division. Do you know how disconnected from reality you have to be to think that’s even a reasonable point of view?

But I guess HFOil is a good representation of how society has deteriorated since the pandemic. Nobody is interested in positivity or success. They only seek to tear things down. To bring others down to their level because they’re miserable. And yes I can absolutely leave if I “get too worked up” but there’s good people here too with good insights and great conversation. How is it fair that I should leave this community over this infestation of f***ing idiots?

Anyways, rant over.

I didn’t say anyone has to leave. I just don’t understand letting random posters on a hockey website get to you. It’s the internet… people are borderline cavemen most places.

Im a pretty positive guy and I think Oilers fans online are too negative in general but there’s no reason for that to get you worked up.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Plus in OT it's just a crap shoot. I do think Skinner should have played though. Sometimes logic is good but there can be too much of it too. The simple answer is that Skinner is on and so why not roll with him?

I can't disagree, i would have used him too, though I think that line up of Arvidsson - Walman - Nurse should have just ragged the puck a lot more, because Winnipeg's only good players were out, eat their time is the best defense without McDrai imo.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I think Nuge, Henrique and Janmark deserve some props for really stepping up in the 3rd

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Plus in OT it's just a crap shoot. I do think Skinner should have played though. Sometimes logic is good but there can be too much of it too. The simple answer is that Skinner is on and so why not roll with him?

Skinner has like 15 goals even though the coach is using him like absolute dog shit. He was clearly on a heater last night and knob puts out Arvidsson and 2 D…Skinner would have been burning rubber trying to get the Hattie.

 

[Sanchez]

Good on Oilers for gutting out a point! That was really good to see them come together as a team with no Drai and no McDavid (just for the 3rd). The refs were very one sided it and it was clear who they wanted to win. The Perry penalty you can blatantly see Ehlers dive, who is a well known diver. Jets got a gift of a 5 on 3 and big props to the PK the last few games, as well as last night. Skinner's rebound, on the first goal, was bad. The 3rd goal he just looks lost trying to find the puck, along with the D. Skinner also is scary coming out of the net to play the puck. Then he gets pulled for concussion protocol, which was suspicious as well. I do hope Picard starts tomorrow night and a speedy recovery for Drai and McDavid.

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

ggs