bleedthenorth
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Post-Game Talk: Oil flooding the infirmary
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The Panther
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The first goal against was 75% on Walman, 25% on S. Skinner. Walman has been fine, but he just got beat by Connor on a who-wants-it-more? play and made a completely unnecessary turnover that led to about 1 minute of sustained pressure and the goal... Connor wanted it more. Then, Skinner let out the biggest rebound I've ever seen in my life, which was banged in for the goal. I mean, every goalie lets out a rebound like that now and again, but not usually on a 'meh' shot from a severe angle. But that one's mostly on Walman.
The second goal was a Nurse brain-fart, as I saw it in real time. Nurse has been quite good lately, but damn was he bad defensively in this one... Somehow, with the other team's best players on the ice, Nurse ends up on the boards, at the red line, as the Jets are breaking up the ice. Surprise -- goal!
In overtime, what can you say...? Nurse just throws it to the Jets, and then go the ice and score.
Unfortunately, it's a thing with Nurse where he is very capable of looking great against middle-level and bad teams, but when the Oilers face top teams he tends to look quite bad.
I feel that two of the Oilers' three top D-men (Nurse and Bouchard) have below-average hockey IQs on the defensive side of it. This, plus the below-par goaltending, is going to do them in in the playoffs. Not that the offense is consistent, either, but I feel that will probably come through when the games are really important.
The second goal was a Nurse brain-fart, as I saw it in real time. Nurse has been quite good lately, but damn was he bad defensively in this one... Somehow, with the other team's best players on the ice, Nurse ends up on the boards, at the red line, as the Jets are breaking up the ice. Surprise -- goal!
In overtime, what can you say...? Nurse just throws it to the Jets, and then go the ice and score.
Unfortunately, it's a thing with Nurse where he is very capable of looking great against middle-level and bad teams, but when the Oilers face top teams he tends to look quite bad.
I feel that two of the Oilers' three top D-men (Nurse and Bouchard) have below-average hockey IQs on the defensive side of it. This, plus the below-par goaltending, is going to do them in in the playoffs. Not that the offense is consistent, either, but I feel that will probably come through when the games are really important.
Drivesaitl
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Hellbuck was awful in this game. Nobody said different. But the thing is Winnipeg get the best goaltending in the league all year round. This was a very atypical game for them to get such shit goaltending.
Hellbucks two worst games of the season have been in the last couple games. But thats not the point and focus of the board is it, We focus on our players right or wrong, good or bad. Kind of how it goes on a fanboard. Skinner was shit in this game, really not a good game for him at all and the many misplays by him have been described. For crying out loud he got beat by an alley-opp from Center ice. Only lucky enough that it dribbled by the post instead of going in. Everybody saw that including Debrusk who gasped.
OfCorsiDid
Ah shit, here we go again
I appreciate Doc for immediately crapping the bed after Staples sang his praises.
Exposing Staples as a fraud is always funny.
Throttlehead
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Whats Nuge supposed to do, turn Ardvark and Podkolzin into 50 goal scorers? Nuge was one of our better players, shitting on Nuge year in and year out is kinda getting old, he's worth every cent of his 5 mil contract.
OfCorsiDid
Ah shit, here we go again
OfCorsiDid
Ah shit, here we go again
Woah woah woah, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water here, he has a point.
The last 5 years this place has become IMMENSELY toxic and especially so in the last year. Look at the the thread page numbers. PGTs from losses are typically have 3 or 4 times the amount of posts than PGTs from wins. And there’s a massive amount of users (again most have accounts that were created < 5 years ago) who ONLY appear when we lose. You think that’s a healthy community?
And that’s not even the most unacceptable part. How many times have you seen people post on PGTs or GDTs where they say something along the lines of “I hope the Oilers lose because of X”? I’ve seen probably 3 or 4 in the last week alone. If I was a moderator here that would be an automatic ban from HFOil. We are Oilers fans. If you aren’t cheering for the team you can f*** all the way off. Criticsm is fine. But to say you want the team to lose because they chose to start the goalie you don’t like is not acceptable.
I remember how miserable it was when we missed the playoffs in 2018 and 2019. We dreamt of a time where we are at the top of the league and a contender to win the cup. Now we’re there and somehow this place is factors of 10 more miserable than it was when we sucked. Like we literally have active firing personnel threads when we are fighting for first in the division. Do you know how disconnected from reality you have to be to think that’s even a reasonable point of view?
But I guess HFOil is a good representation of how society has deteriorated since the pandemic. Nobody is interested in positivity or success. They only seek to tear things down. To bring others down to their level because they’re miserable. And yes I can absolutely leave if I “get too worked up” but there’s good people here too with good insights and great conversation. How is it fair that I should leave this community over this infestation of f***ing idiots?
Anyways, rant over.
PitkanensGitch
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Pickard has had a significantly better SV% than Skinner in both years he has been here, and it's not close either. In the playoffs it is even more exaggerated. I'll put some numbers up quick.
2023/2024 regular season
Pickard: .909
Skinner: .904
2023/2024 playoffs
Pickard .915
Skinner .901
2024/25 regular season
Pickard .902
Skinner .896
These numbers aren't close. Hedging our bets on Skinner being the future of goaltending here in Edmonton is absurd considering his lack of athleticism and failure to rise to the situation. He has been outplayed not only by Pickard who was a fringe NHL backup, but we can go further. He was outplayed thoroughly by Jack Campbell of all people in the playoffs.
2022/2023 playoffs
Campbell: .961 (4gp)
Skinner: .883 (12gp)
The only time he has outplayed a goaltender in the NHL was him beating out a severely mentally ill Jack Campbell who had no business being in the NHL to begin with, and was subsequently put into the assistance program never to be seen again due to mental health issues.
Pickard should be playing with more regularity. The leash has ended on Skinner. I can't fathom why after this breadth of data and time do we plan on playing Skinner as a starter in the NHL. Pickard has proven himself to be significantly more reliable even if he isn't the flashy, home-grown prospect. He is significantly better and every metric backs this up.
OfCorsiDid
Ah shit, here we go again
It’s not rocket science at this point. Our goalies are set. Just ride the hot hand.
You post a SV% above .900 you get the next start (b2b excluded). If you don’t the other guy starts.
KCC
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Stu with another brutal game. 13 saves on 16 measly shots before the concussion protocol. When is knobblauch going to realize skinner is trash? If pickard isn’t the starter come playoff time this team doesn’t stand a chance. Not that said pickard is likely a starter but they sure as heck stand a better chance with him in net for a few months than Stu. Gotta cross our fingers.
You do realize it’s a small sample size for the playoffs, and the majority of Pickards starts in his time here are against teams in the bottom 10.
Salvaged Ship
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Our top players need to be healthy for the playoffs to even have a prayer. Third place in the division with a healthy McDavid and Drai is a hell of a lot better than second place and these 2 are playing injured round 1. Rest them until they are healthy.
Jimmi McJenkins
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So if McDavid is out, you re-call Savoie, they need a top-6 forward, let him run with the boys. If Stu is out, call up Rodrigue, see if he has NHL game or not.
This is rough, but the way the team responded without him in the 3rd was pretty impressive, I think they can weather things short-ish term. But If they're missing McDrai for a while, they'll be in tough.
This is rough, but the way the team responded without him in the 3rd was pretty impressive, I think they can weather things short-ish term. But If they're missing McDrai for a while, they'll be in tough.
GMofOilers
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Not my fault Skinner has 6 wins in his last 15 games played, 6 wins.
Elite trash goalie that should be sent down
Elite trash goalie that should be sent down
joestevens29
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End of the day you tell me Drai out all game and McDavid out for third and I would've been thrilled with 1 point going into the game.
Winnipeg is a damn good team there is a reason they have the most wins right now.
Biggest disappointment was lack of response towards Morrissey. The guy played over 27 minutes last night. Can't tell me there wasn't a couple times they could've given him that extra love tap or hit him a bit late. Don't care about taking a penalty or if Morrissey didn't mean to hit McDavid there. Those little slashes are absolutely dangerous with a lot of guys having wrists broken from them. Not enough to warrant suspensions, but they should warrant a decent response from a club
Winnipeg is a damn good team there is a reason they have the most wins right now.
Biggest disappointment was lack of response towards Morrissey. The guy played over 27 minutes last night. Can't tell me there wasn't a couple times they could've given him that extra love tap or hit him a bit late. Don't care about taking a penalty or if Morrissey didn't mean to hit McDavid there. Those little slashes are absolutely dangerous with a lot of guys having wrists broken from them. Not enough to warrant suspensions, but they should warrant a decent response from a club
brentashton
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Can anyone help me understand how Arvidsson played in 3 on 3 ot but the guy who was putting the puck in the net (JSkinner)was stapled to the bench?
I realize one is a better skater but jeebus the other guy has zero chance of scoring.
I realize one is a better skater but jeebus the other guy has zero chance of scoring.
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russ99
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One other bright spot from a rough third period was Nuge doing pretty well as a #1 center. It’s past time we stop this crutch of using him at LW.
russ99
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Not sure you saw that graphic during the game but the Kings are like 25-0-2 when scoring three or more goals, and our team defense is a sieve and we got a flopping shaky goalie. We got a lot more to worry about than just home ice advantage.
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Think it really comes down to the skating. Although when I saw Arvidsson i was wondering why and then I started to think who the hell else was a legit option lol. Podkolzin? Although sometimes I have as much confidence in him offensively as I would a guy like Patrick Stefan on a breakaway with and open net
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joestevens29
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Jeff Skinner's usage has really been getting to me and even know that he's getting the time it drives me nuts.
For years we try find top 6 forwards for Connor and Leon. Bring in Skinner who's been a consistent goal scorer the past few years, but don't give him a legit shot to play with those guys.
At what point do Connor and Leon stop having a say in who they want to play with and be forced to try the guys that the GM is identified as potential fits?
Not saying Skinner is going to be the answer, but apparently he's been on of our better 5 on 5 goal scorers this calendar year.
For years we try find top 6 forwards for Connor and Leon. Bring in Skinner who's been a consistent goal scorer the past few years, but don't give him a legit shot to play with those guys.
At what point do Connor and Leon stop having a say in who they want to play with and be forced to try the guys that the GM is identified as potential fits?
Not saying Skinner is going to be the answer, but apparently he's been on of our better 5 on 5 goal scorers this calendar year.
