OHL Expansion

OMG67

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Thats actually a really cool concept.
I had no idea they were this far along when i was going back and forth with OMG telling him it was possible but this is great to see.
I guess this just goes to show that anything is possible with the right Mayor and Council just like i said!
The Article is behind a paywall so i couldn't really read it.

I never said it wasn’t possible. I said it is unlikely unless it is part of a larger development where the arena issue a small component. That is exactly the case here.

The developments are typically spearheaded by private investment. It is REALLY difficult for small communities to pass funding on to local taxpayers. Most budgets are already tight. You need the project to generate the new revenue required to offset the costs. That is tough to do in a stand alone arena not connected to a development.

THAT was my point. This proposed project as well as the Brantford development proves it.
 
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ScoutLife4

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I never said it wasn’t possible. I said it is unlikely unless it is part of a larger development where the arena issue a small component. That is exactly the case here.

The developments are typically spearheaded by private investment. It is REALLY difficult for small communities to pass funding on to local taxpayers. Most budgets are already tight. You need the project to generate the new revenue required to offset the costs. That is tough to do in a stand alone arena not connected to a development.

THAT was my point. This proposed project as well as the Brantford development proves it.
You mentioned Peterborough can't draw for an entertainment district like Brantford because they do not have any business there.
I think the fact that they have spent a bunch of money on drawings and design says otherwise was my point.
a wise man once said "build it and they will come"
This is great news for the team and community that they are exploring this.
 

OMG67

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You mentioned Peterborough can't draw for an entertainment district like Brantford because they do not have any business there.
I think the fact that they have spent a bunch of money on drawings and design says otherwise was my point.
a wise man once said "build it and they will come"
This is great news for the team and community that they are exploring this.

I said “Event Centre”

The event Centre is like a Conference Centre that attracts transient business activity from outside the region. That is way different than an entertainment district.
 

ScoutLife4

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I said “Event Centre”

The event Centre is like a Conference Centre that attracts transient business activity from outside the region. That is way different than an entertainment district.
I honestly don't know what you mean the discussion was never about a business conference room it's about an arena. -i could care less about a meeting room.

Another topic....
What is going on with TD Place once the 67s get their new arena? (I'm not familiar with the plan or project)
 
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OMG67

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I honestly don't know what you mean the discussion was never about a business conference room it's about an arena. -i could care less about a meeting room.

Another topic....
What is going on with TD Place once the 67s get their new arena? (I'm not familiar with the plan or project)

I wasn’t thinking in terms of an Entertainment district (although that is another option for sure). I was thinking in terms of a Business development which commonly is some form of Conference Centre. IT is a means of building business and attracting corporate interests into the community. When a Township wants to grow, it tries to add infrastructure that supports businesses relocating into the community (which creates population growth). I was more looking at that angle. When I said businesses wouldn’t go past Oshawa, that was why. Durham Region already has loads of support in that regard. There would be no reason for Peterborough to try to enter that market.

Lansdowne went through a major redevelopment project a decade ago. Of course, you are likley aware of what is there now. That was Phase One. Phase Two is going through acceptance. Phase Two replaces the North Side Stands (which also houses the Civic Centre) with New Stadium seating and a mixed use Ground Level Commercial build with two Residential Towers for Condo sales. That plan eliminates the Civic centre so the approved plan is to build a new 5500 seat arena just behind the East End Zone of the Football Stadium. Phase Two has three separate build components:
1> Build the new rink
2> Once the rink is completed, they will tear down the existing Civic Centre and stadium stands and build the new Stadium stands.
3> The 3rd component is the Mixed Use commercial/residential.

The current project completion dates:
1> Arena Q4 2027
2> North Side Stands Q2 2030
3> Mixed Commercial/Residential Q1 2034

The challenge right now is OSEG has not turned an operations profit in any year. There are questions as to whether they are the right firm to partner with for this latest phase. Personally, I don’t think they have an option. It is them or nothing. I cannot see them partnering with a separate entity. It would be a very muddy relationship.

 
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