Offseason Roster Moves, Rumors, and Discussion
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Ice9
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@Aaaarrgghh I do not think we need to trade Gudbranson, he played well in the last season. But honestly we need one hard d-man. I prefer to trade Severson.
Werenski, Boqvist
Provorov, Gudbranson
xxx, Jiříček (frankly, he will play)
Werenski, Boqvist
Provorov, Gudbranson
xxx, Jiříček (frankly, he will play)
I wouldn't be against moving Severson either. Like Gudbranson, he is overpaid and has too much term. However, unlike Gudbranson, he can also be a highly competent defenseman if utilised correctly. My post was written from the perspective of trying to improving the team defense for next year. Moving Gudbranson would do a whole lot more than moving Severson.
With that said, if they get an reasonably experienced LD with size who can play on the PK, like Brenden Dillon, I will probably be satisfied. Moving Gudbranson or Severson would realistically be too expensive and Gudbranson's deal will hopefully not get in the way too much.
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I think Gudbranson deserved his salary last season. Besides playing great in SH, he's a tough player. There's no reason to trade him now.
To me, it really is a problem that we basically dont have a first pairing right D. And we need one to improve defensively and get a balanced D-core.
Boqvist - 2nd or 3rd pair RD, but always injured.
Gudbranson - 3rd pair D.
Severson - 2nd pair D at best.
Jiricek - Young and developing. Should play ideally in 3rd pair, but 2nd pair is fine if everything clicks and his D-partner is good enough.
I think we should try to trade Boqvist and Gudbranson and with other moves, try to acquire 1st pair RD, so that we can slot Severson to 2nd pair and Jiricek to 3rd pair.
Werenski - X
X -Severson
X - Jiricek
This just to make sense of our RD situation.
Boqvist - 2nd or 3rd pair RD, but always injured.
Gudbranson - 3rd pair D.
Severson - 2nd pair D at best.
Jiricek - Young and developing. Should play ideally in 3rd pair, but 2nd pair is fine if everything clicks and his D-partner is good enough.
I think we should try to trade Boqvist and Gudbranson and with other moves, try to acquire 1st pair RD, so that we can slot Severson to 2nd pair and Jiricek to 3rd pair.
Werenski - X
X -Severson
X - Jiricek
This just to make sense of our RD situation.
If they acquired a shutdown D like Dillon, this team defense should improve greatly.
There's no one on this team that plays defense at a high level where you would consider it their strength. Werenski is a rover who can create offense and then be absolutely abysmal in his own zone. Severson is actually fairly impressive offensively but equally mind numbing on the back end. Provorov has stretches where you think he's a good defenseman but his brain dead defensive plays make you change your thoughts quickly.
No team is taking Severson. That contract was and is an albatross from the moment Jarmo signed it. The only hope is that he improves under a better coach/system.
Those are your 3 "best" defensemen. This is not a competitive d core that can keep pucks out of the net, I don't care who is in goal.
Hopefully Waddell realizes Jarmo's puck moving D core needs to be scrapped.
Unfortunately Jiricek and Mateychuk and seemingly more of the same PMD who aren't great defensively. The book is still out on both of them but I want neither near this team unless they seriously impress in training camp.
Make defensemen plays defense again. Novel idea, I know.
There's no one on this team that plays defense at a high level where you would consider it their strength. Werenski is a rover who can create offense and then be absolutely abysmal in his own zone. Severson is actually fairly impressive offensively but equally mind numbing on the back end. Provorov has stretches where you think he's a good defenseman but his brain dead defensive plays make you change your thoughts quickly.
No team is taking Severson. That contract was and is an albatross from the moment Jarmo signed it. The only hope is that he improves under a better coach/system.
Those are your 3 "best" defensemen. This is not a competitive d core that can keep pucks out of the net, I don't care who is in goal.
Hopefully Waddell realizes Jarmo's puck moving D core needs to be scrapped.
Unfortunately Jiricek and Mateychuk and seemingly more of the same PMD who aren't great defensively. The book is still out on both of them but I want neither near this team unless they seriously impress in training camp.
Make defensemen plays defense again. Novel idea, I know.
Looking at Porty's article, I wonder if we end up with one of Carolina's UFA defensemen. Skjei, for example.
Viqsi
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You laugh, but I've legit gotten good work out of hardware of that generation - and earlier - to this present day.CBJ cap workstation
Admittedly, tho, I probably wouldn't have it running Win98.
So many business have critical legacy software still running on Win98 or XP. I used to work for a sandwich chain known for being weirdly quick and the entire backend was still in 98 with no plans of upgrading because of how critical the ancient software was. Shit, we upgraded from push button tape POS to actual touchscreens while I worked there in 2016. I imagine that when private equity bought out the safari-going founder, that was something they upgraded immediately, though.
You'd be shocked, too, what Ticketmaster has going on under the hood. Or maybe not lol.
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
Right now I'm reliving memories of figuring out ways to manage the ancient MS-DOS machine that ran the voicemail system at my synagogue when I was their everything-technical-or-financial "department". Couldn't replace it with a DOSBox, because the licensing relied on a hardware dongle on the parallel port, and even when we *could* find other machines that actually had parallel ports still, no amount of emulation or passthrough schemes would convince the software we were legit. Researching that problem is how I discovered this wonderful thing existed, for example.
For the most part I don't have to do hardware anymore. I never imagined I would see that as a relief when I was younger, but life takes strange turns sometimes.
Anyways, something something hockey a Jackets outdated machine would have been running XP anyways 'cause of when the salary cap was established.
koteka
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I was running Windows 95 on a machine way after I should have been and my super tech friend who founded a couple of IT companies made fun of me. Then one day he decided I was a genius because nobody was writing malware for Windows 95. Then he had me use my Windows 95 box to test some things he developed because he was genuinely curious how they would appear to someone using Windows 95.
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Not many. Teams will want to take advantage of the injury situation and the current mental problems.
Cowumbus
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A large veteran second liner would be great.
To me, the Islanders (or a team like them) make sense. Who needs goals?
I understand I’m in the minority opinion here, but once again, if the team simply held leads last season, maybe more people would believe this retool take. Simply holding half of the leads they f***ed up would’ve gotten them to 35 wins, even with bad D and inconsistent goaltending. Add a couple pieces to help on D, maybe change coaching, and see growth from the plethora of young guys and they aren’t nearly as far away as some make it seem. And even that is without fixing the goaltending right now.
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Viqsi
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This, among many other things, is why I'm quietly going completely batshit f***ing insane over the need for a second-pairing-or-better shutdown blueliner.
Gaudreau - Voronkov - Marchenko
Johnson - Fantilli - Chinakhov
Jenner - Sillinger - Nylander
Texier - Danforth - Olivier
If without trades in offense
Johnson - Fantilli - Chinakhov
Jenner - Sillinger - Nylander
Texier - Danforth - Olivier
If without trades in offense
I'm not gonna go insane about it....
.... Unless we don't do anything about it over the summer.
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
I'm trying to avoid it in that scenario as well but it's going to be damnably difficult.
Honestly, I'm not sure how to feel yet since we really don't know what Waddell is gonna do. Idk whether to expectanything from a draft day blockbuster to starting the season with him on the roster.I'm trying to avoid it in that scenario as well but it's going to be damnably difficult.
I would imagine he would want to make a deal sooner rather than later, but it takes two to tango.
Cowumbus
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