Offseason Roster Moves, Rumors, and Discussion

[cslebn]

I was thinking, and I'll keep this here for now before I get roasted on the mains, but we talk about Tkachuk a lot from Ottawa.

Why not Robertson from Dallas? Couple years left at 7+ only 24 and plays physical.

Dallas is at 69M of 88M for next year with Harley (7+?), Tanev, Lundkvist, Dellandrea, and a backup to sign at least. That could be tight. So maybe the right youthful jacket could help them save for D by saying for Robertson.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800133622097420679

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[cbjthrowaway]

I was thinking, and I'll keep this here for now before I get roasted on the mains, but we talk about Tkachuk a lot from Ottawa.

Why not Robertson from Dallas? Couple years left at 7+ only 24 and plays physical.

Dallas is at 69M of 88M for next year with Harley (7+?), Tanev, Lundkvist, Dellandrea, and a backup to sign at least. That could be tight. So maybe the right youthful jacket could help them save for D by saying for Robertson.

robertson isn't the kind of guy you move out to free up cap, he's the kind of guy you move out other pieces to keep. he's an elite player on a bargain contract.

they would certainly look to move guys like dadonov, faksa, or suter first if they want to free up cap. then they'd probably move to guys like marchment or lindell, or even asking benn or seguin to waiver their NTCs.

robertson, hintz, johnston and heiskanen are 1000% untouchable. that is an elite core of skaters.

that said, the jackets should definitely make calls on marchment and lindell if the stars do end up needing to shed salary.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800133622097420679

Anyone able to share insight on this paywalled link?

hedger wrote it so you can probably just imagine a prolonged fart noise behind the paywall

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

I was thinking, and I'll keep this here for now before I get roasted on the mains, but we talk about Tkachuk a lot from Ottawa.

Why not Robertson from Dallas? Couple years left at 7+ only 24 and plays physical.

Dallas is at 69M of 88M for next year with Harley (7+?), Tanev, Lundkvist, Dellandrea, and a backup to sign at least. That could be tight. So maybe the right youthful jacket could help them save for D by saying for Robertson.

You don't save teams from cap issues by taking their best forward

Tkachuk talk was because someone reported that he wants out of Ottawa. It was kinda believable since his brother did the same for another Canadian team.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800133622097420679

Anyone able to share insight on this paywalled link?

Sure

Teams are calling him, asking what he thinks he needs. He’s telling teams they have pro and amateur meetings still to do and he’ll have a better assessment of what we need and what we’re willing to part with after those meetings conclude. He says he’s also asking teams what they need and who they’re willing to part with, and is a detailed note taker.

He and the staff will rank the assets we have (players, picks, and prospects) and assess what may be in play. Teams are asking about 4th overall which he says anything is in play for the right price.

Finally here’s the last paragraph verbatim:

Waddell wants to be prepared for all scenarios going into this year's draft, which will be followed closely by the July 1 start of free agency.

“I don’t want to be thrown something where it’s like, ‘We need to watch this player or do this or that,’ because a lot of times it involves picks that are already happening and you’ve got to make quick decisions,” he said. “The only way you can make those is to be prepared, and your staff plays a big part in that. You’ve got to know the value of every player on a bunch of other teams so that you’re not scrambling if something is offered to you.”Assessing the values of draft picks and prospects is part of it, along with a willingness to give up good assets to get something that's lacking. Waddell now has NHL talent, a horde of prospects and a total of 23 picks over the next three drafts to potentially utilize for a roster overhaul he feels can make the Blue Jackets competitive next season.To that end, Waddell could trade for veterans with winning experience to boost the Jackets' immediate chances while helping young players develop good habits. Those types of trades usually happen before or during the draft. So, fans may want to buckle their seat belts.

There’s also a section about Laine which I will post verbatim in his thread

 

[cslebn]

You don't save teams from cap issues by taking their best forward

Tkachuk talk was because someone reported that he wants out of Ottawa. It was kinda believable since his brother did the same for another Canadian team.

Oh I agree, it's just he's the only expensive player without trade protection.


It's why I put it here and not the mains lol

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Oh I agree, it's just he's the only expensive player without trade protection.


It's why I put it here and not the mains lol

it does make sense for the jackets to be looking for potential cap casualties, but superstars like jason robertson aren't in the same aisle. the best case is getting someone like cirelli or barbashev. more realistically, it'd probably be someone like jg pageau.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

that said, the jackets should definitely make calls on marchment and lindell if the stars do end up needing to shed salary.

Yeah I've been thinking Marchment is a guy they should be checking on

 

[CBJx614]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800233584457842805

 

[Viqsi]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800233584457842805

That does appear to lend a little "oomph" to the common narrative of him having been a product of his wingers.

I wouldn't necessarily mind the idea of trying him with Gaudreau again on principle, but I remain convinced the cost is going to be at best prohibitive (and at worst a hideous disaster we'd be regretting for years).

 

[majormajor]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800233584457842805

He was straight bad in the regular season and then very good in the playoffs. Our pro scouts would need answers on what is going on with Lindholm. He did have an injury dogging him this year. But older players often do, that's not supposed to be encouraging.

 

[CBJx614]

He was straight bad in the regular season and then very good in the playoffs. Our pro scouts would need answers on what is going on with Lindholm. He did have an injury dogging him this year. But older players often do, that's not supposed to be encouraging.

That does appear to lend a little "oomph" to the common narrative of him having been a product of his wingers.

I wouldn't necessarily mind the idea of trying him with Gaudreau again on principle, but I remain convinced the cost is going to be at best prohibitive (and at worst a hideous disaster we'd be regretting for years).

I just don't see him wanting to come here, id be appalled if we offered him either of those contracts and something tells me neither of those would be enough to get him here.

I want nothing to do with him.

I don't think simply reuniting him with Johnny does the trick, there was a very important 3rd piece of that line that made it all work and we don't have someone to play that role on the roster let alone in the system.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I’m still interested in Lindholm even at 7 years. But anything over 7.5 and I would back away. I imagine he’ll do better in the UFA market especially if he’s already rejected 7 and 8.5.

 

[VT]

He was straight bad in the regular season and then very good in the playoffs. Our pro scouts would need answers on what is going on with Lindholm. He did have an injury dogging him this year. But older players often do, that's not supposed to be encouraging.

We have Gaudreau to his 36 years (still 5 seasons), and now another old player Lindholm? They have great stats with Tkachuk and under Sutter. Also nobody knows how Elias will look in the future.

I’m still interested in Lindholm even at 7 years. But anything over 7.5 and I would back away. I imagine he’ll do better in the UFA market especially if he’s already rejected 7 and 8.5.

Too much. Maximum 3 seasons and to 7 millions.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

At least Waddell recognized in some interview that the worst decisions are made on July 1st. Brings some peace of mind

 

[ginner classic]

It seems to me Vegas would be more inclined to move people on the left side. Incidentally, I'd argue Columbus have more need to add on the left side too. The guy that Vegas have that's easiest to move is Nic Hague. I wouldn't mind it at all if the Blue Jackets could make a deal for him. The Golden Knights are a bit short on forward depth. I've seen Texier for Hague being thrown around on Capfriendly. That makes a lot of sense to me.

I really like Hague as well. Either are interesting opportunities. I just see Whitecloud as more available due to Korczak being waiver eligible and having looked the part. Hague and Whitecloud both had a rough first half.

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

At least Waddell recognized in some interview that the worst decisions are made on July 1st. Brings some peace of mind

Music to my ears whenever I fear Lindholm signed on a 7×$8M deal. Unfortunately, it's generally difficult to land a top 6 C via trade, assuming that's a priority for Columbus in the off-season.

Personally, for this off-season, I'd love to see Gudbranson get moved and one of the UFA RDs signed in his place, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

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[CBJx614]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800559487876464772

 

[MissADD]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800559487876464772

I find it hilarious that only a handful of teams have a cap friendly set up in house and that the CBJ are one of them. We always joke that the CBJ front office isn't the most competent around, yet somehow they have this already set up. I am baffled how this isn't standard protocol. Like wouldn't you need this info to compare cap space for trades?

 

[Viqsi]

I find it hilarious that only a handful of teams have a cap friendly set up in house and that the CBJ are one of them. We always joke that the CBJ front office isn't the most competent around, yet somehow they have this already set up. I am baffled how this isn't standard protocol. Like wouldn't you need this info to compare cap space for trades?

I personally guarantee that if this info had come out before we knew CapFriendly was being taken offline, the usual suspects would be freaking the f*** out about how our "incompetent" front office is spending precious resources that should be going elsewhere on recreating this "obviously inevitably going to be inferior" effort whereas everyone else has the sense to just use CapFriendly.

 

[squashmaple]

I find it hilarious that only a handful of teams have a cap friendly set up in house and that the CBJ are one of them. We always joke that the CBJ front office isn't the most competent around, yet somehow they have this already set up. I am baffled how this isn't standard protocol. Like wouldn't you need this info to compare cap space for trades?

Believe it or not, the Jackets are actually recognized league-wide for having built a technically-savvy and analytics-focused front office. The on-ice product doesn’t usually work out, but the personnel on the office side is in place. I’m not surprised at all that a team that employs Josh Flynn has this sort of thing in-house already.

 

[koteka]

I personally guarantee that if this info had come out before we knew CapFriendly was being taken offline, the usual suspects would be freaking the f*** out about how our "incompetent" front office is spending precious resources that should be going elsewhere on recreating this "obviously inevitably going to be inferior" effort whereas everyone else has the sense to just use CapFriendly.

I would never trust a third party product and would want my own in house cap guy. (I would also always check my work against Cap Friendly and Spotrac because I double and triple check my own work and then have someone else check it, but then that is just me and I don’t ever want to be perceived as the reason a project fails.) I am a little surprised we were prepared for such a thing, but maybe that is part of how Jarmo wanted to run the team and part of his supposed desire to squeeze every penny out of RFAs.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Good for Lars and good luck