Official Trade Speculation/Proposal Thread III

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CREW99AW

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Bruins fan here. What do you think the Islanders would be looking for if they traded Andrew MacDonald? Seems to be the perfect fit for the Bruins to replace Seidenberg in their top 4.

Botta reports an NHL gm put AMac's value at a late 2nd and 5th. Botta went on to say there are 6-8 teams interested, that Snow has gotten a substantial offer, but is holding out for a 1st.
 

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Hah what ?! JT is going nowhere. He's an islander for life. This team should be bananas in 4 years why the hell would he leave lol it's what he's waiting for

He will only wait so long. With our track record, it's hard to be so optimistic.
 

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Hah what ?! JT is going nowhere. He's an islander for life. This team should be bananas in 4 years why the hell would he leave lol it's what he's waiting for

I'll believe that the isles become a real team and serious contenders when I see it. I need to see a change in how the owner, the gm, and coach conduct their business to remain as a dedicated FAN let alone as a player who is about to sign a contract that would guarantee I retire as an islander. I'm a little shocked you are so convinced that tavares is guaranteed to stick around this gong show for his entire career! That's what really deserves a haha!
 

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Botta reports an NHL gm put AMac's value at a late 2nd and 5th. Botta went on to say there are 6-8 teams interested, that Snow has gotten a substantial offer, but is holding out for a 1st.

What about a conditional 2nd (becomes a first if the Bruins make the SCF) + a B-level prospect?
 

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What about a conditional 2nd (becomes a first if the Bruins make the SCF) + a B-level prospect?

The story is that something like this has been offered and already rejected. Personally, I would take the first rounder to try to flip it at the draft for a true NHLer. A second rounder doesn't allow that to happen. That would be a no from this pretend gm.
 

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What about a conditional 2nd (becomes a first if the Bruins make the SCF) + a B-level prospect?

We have read Snow has already received a substantial offer. We have read another team's gm put his value at a 2nd+. With 6-8 teams in the mix, I will be surprised if some team does not give up a first. This is considered to be a weak draft outside the top dozen pick.
I would rather have Mid late first then conditional 2nd + B prospect.
 

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I'll believe that the isles become a real team and serious contenders when I see it. I need to see a change in how the owner, the gm, and coach conduct their business to remain as a dedicated FAN let alone as a player who is about to sign a contract that would guarantee I retire as an islander. I'm a little shocked you are so convinced that tavares is guaranteed to stick around this gong show for his entire career! That's what really deserves a haha!

No good sir, what deserves a haha is that you believe this team will be a joke forever...wang will not own this team much longer (everyone knows his interest died when his coliseum plans did) and once he's gone so is snow. Then we will have real talent running the franchise. already have the prospects .. JT goes no where in 4 years. I'm willing to bet any amount of anything on that.
 
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If Mac can't get a first the Islanders should try see if anybody is willing to give up a 2nd in 2015, it would be nice having a 2nd next year
 

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I'll believe that the isles become a real team and serious contenders when I see it. I need to see a change in how the owner, the gm, and coach conduct their business to remain as a dedicated FAN let alone as a player who is about to sign a contract that would guarantee I retire as an islander. I'm a little shocked you are so convinced that tavares is guaranteed to stick around this gong show for his entire career! That's what really deserves a haha!

Exactly! the team could have been very good this year and last with proper management and a competitive payroll.
 

stranger34

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No good sir, what deserves a haha is that you believe this team will be a joke forever...wang will not own this team much longer (everyone knows his interest died when his coliseum plans did) and once he's gone so is snow. Then we will have real talent running the franchise. already have the prospects .. JT goes no where in 4 years. I'm willing to bet any amount of anything on that.

Somewhere over the rainbow
Blue birds fly
And the dreams that you dreamed of
Dreams really do come true ooh ooooh
 

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islandermaniac

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No good sir, what deserves a haha is that you believe this team will be a joke forever...wang will not own this team much longer (everyone knows his interest died when his coliseum plans did) and once he's gone so is snow. Then we will have real talent running the franchise. already have the prospects .. JT goes no where in 4 years. I'm willing to bet any amount of anything on that.

Ah, the good ol' INTERNET bet haha! I am as of yet unconvinced that Wang will sell the team when he is guaranteed to make money in Brooklyn. So unless you yourself are John Tavares, I will believe that jt remains an islander when he signs on the dotted line. Until then, I will remain skeptical.

How can we get him to stay? Spend some money! Trade some prospects! Flip the first rounders from the vanek and macdonald deals. O'Reilly could be had via trade. Callahan via ufa. Maybe call Montreal to see if a top three pick in this year's draft and Ryan pulock is enough to even get them to CONSIDER trading subban. If I were the gm I would certainly inquire! How could it hurt? (If only my owner would let me haha!)
 

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Hold onto Nino and watch his value plummet even further. Then he's an RFA and REALLY has us over a barrel. Stop thinking in 2D

Nino has been a solid 2nd/ 3rd line player this year for the Wild. No reason he couldn't be doing the same here which would have increased his value. Instead we traded for and signed an overpaid 4th line banger on the downside of his career. I would have gladly taken my chances with Nino over Clutterbuck. If Nino was a RFA and bolted overseas than so be it, of course he never gave any indication ever he would do that.

I am not sure why some blindly defend the Nino situation. The organization torpedoed his value and we have an overpaid 4th line player with our 5th overall pick. Blame Snow, blame Wang, blame them both. Any way you slice it the team royally ****ed up the Nino situation
 

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Botta reports an NHL gm put AMac's value at a late 2nd and 5th. Botta went on to say there are 6-8 teams interested, that Snow has gotten a substantial offer, but is holding out for a 1st.

That's two different stories. I would tend to believe the "substantial" offer over the 2nd & 5th if for any other reason than this is a weak draft. Couple that with the wad of teams vying for a playoff berth and it should be one of the more traded first round groups we've seen in a while.
 

TheWhiteWhale30

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Ah, the good ol' INTERNET bet haha! I am as of yet unconvinced that Wang will sell the team when he is guaranteed to make money in Brooklyn. So unless you yourself are John Tavares, I will believe that jt remains an islander when he signs on the dotted line. Until then, I will remain skeptical.

How can we get him to stay? Spend some money! Trade some prospects! Flip the first rounders from the vanek and macdonald deals. O'Reilly could be had via trade. Callahan via ufa. Maybe call Montreal to see if a top three pick in this year's draft and Ryan pulock is enough to even get them to CONSIDER trading subban. If I were the gm I would certainly inquire! How could it hurt? (If only my owner would let me haha!)

I'd be willing to make a real bet as we both I'm assuming live on LI but I'm pretty sure mods would not take well to that.
 

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Nino has been a solid 2nd/ 3rd line player this year for the Wild. No reason he couldn't be doing the same here which would have increased his value. Instead we traded for and signed an overpaid 4th line banger on the downside of his career. I would have gladly taken my chances with Nino over Clutterbuck. If Nino was a RFA and bolted overseas than so be it, of course he never gave any indication ever he would do that.

I am not sure why some blindly defend the Nino situation. The organization torpedoed his value and we have an overpaid 4th line player with our 5th overall pick. Blame Snow, blame Wang, blame them both. Any way you slice it the team royally ****ed up the Nino situation

EXACTLY!!! The clamor about Nino's trade demand and his voicing displeasure about not being brought up to be with the big team during the playoffs is so overblown. He's young, he's been used to playing big minutes and and being a big part of his team.

Good management finds a way to work with young players especially in hockey where there are so many who play at such a young age. They completely mismanaged the situation and felt compelled to sell a young talent at a deep discount.

What is so confusing is that the very same GM drafted Kiril Kabanov, a player with more well known problems. Why would Snow do that? Simple...he saw an opportunity to steal a player with first round talent and understood that the team had to commit to working on the attitude and maturity issues. With Nino, they contributed to the problems and then disposed of him for a bargain basement return.

Just one of many reasons why there is no hope here as long as the dynamic trio of Wang, Snow and Capuano remain in charge.
 

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How would Isles fans feel about these deals?

To Los Angeles:
Thomas Vanek

To New York:
2014 1st round pick
2015 3rd round pick (becomes 2nd if Kings reach Conference Finals)
Tanner Pearson

To Boston:
Andrew MacDonald
Evgeni Nabokov

To New York:
2014 1st round pick
Anthony Camara/Jared Knight
Chad Johnson
 

Paulinho

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How would Isles fans feel about these deals?

To Los Angeles:
Thomas Vanek

To New York:
2014 1st round pick
2015 3rd round pick (becomes 2nd if Kings reach Conference Finals)
Tanner Pearson

To Boston:
Andrew MacDonald
Evgeni Nabokov

To New York:
2014 1st round pick
Anthony Camara/Jared Knight
Chad Johnson


To Los Angeles:
Thomas Vanek
Evgeni Nabokov

To New York:
2014 1st round pick
Martin Jones
Linden Vey

To Boston:
Andrew MacDonald


To New York:
2014 1st round pick
 
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