Simple, Amac wants 5 mill per year Isles offered 4 mill. Therefore hopefully he's traded instead of losing him for absolutely nothing.
Official Trade Speculation/Proposal Thread III
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Simple, Amac wants 5 mill per year Isles offered 4 mill. Therefore hopefully he's traded instead of losing him for absolutely nothing.
CREW99AW
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Zetterburg may be out for the rest of the season, with his disk injury flaring up.
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/02/red_wings_ask_ansar_questions_15.html
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/02/red_wings_ask_ansar_questions_15.html
I can't wait to see what Garth winds up getting for Vanek. I have this sick feeling that he will hold out for a king's ransom and, with other talent becoming available, many teams will opt for lower priced forwards who can contribute offense. Ultimately, he may be forced to make a trade at a significant discount.
After the way Vanek performed (or did not perform) in the Olympics, he did not exactly build a compelling case for any team to pay a big price to acquire him.
After the way Vanek performed (or did not perform) in the Olympics, he did not exactly build a compelling case for any team to pay a big price to acquire him.
bluechipbonzo
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You should name names an tell us what you would expect a team to spend on these mystery players...
Guys like Moulson and Hemsky are still going to command late first rounders, one would think.
If I'm spending my first on guys like that, and I have a nice stable of young prospects, I throw one of them in and spend my money on Vanek...
There will be bidding and Garf will do better than some here expect.
Book it.
Guys like Moulson and Hemsky are still going to command late first rounders, one would think.
If I'm spending my first on guys like that, and I have a nice stable of young prospects, I throw one of them in and spend my money on Vanek...
There will be bidding and Garf will do better than some here expect.
Book it.
blinkman360
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Wouldn't worry about that too much. Not when a guy like Crosby only has like 2 assists on a stacked team. Someone will cave and offer up a lot for him. Especially when looking at the other scoring options, and the ridiculous number of teams that are still in the race.
blitzkriegs
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then the Isles might as well deal him and add more assets for the future -- same as it ever was.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444303
HAHHAHHAAA - Per TSN on Isles at the deadline.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444303
HAHHAHHAAA - Per TSN on Isles at the deadline.
Crosby didn't get drunk and party all night, embarrassing himself and disgracing the Austrian national team in the process. What an a--hole and, with Grabner participating in the same shenanigans, we really have strong character on our team.
Funny how many are unrelenting about Nino's "whining" but very forgiving of Vanek's indiscretion.
But Garth is looking for THREE significant assets and I'd be inclined to believe that many GMs would rather surrender one for players like Moulson or Cammalleri both of whom will provide scoring at a discount to what Garth will want for Vanek.
SI90
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Moulson
Hemsky
Cammerlari
Jagr
could all be available on the wing. Vanek will be the most expensive to obtain.....I hope Snow doesn't screw this up
Hemsky
Cammerlari
Jagr
could all be available on the wing. Vanek will be the most expensive to obtain.....I hope Snow doesn't screw this up
MattMartin
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I have read that he has been upset about being sent down to Albany, however, unlike NINO, he has said he wants to stay with NJ.
Edit: Found the link.
http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/...l_wants_future_with_devils_not_elsewhere.html
"Naturally, this seemingly slow progression has led media types, bloggers and fans to drum up trade rumors involving Larsson, and more probably will be forthcoming with the NHL's March 5 trade deadline arriving soon and the Devils badly in need of a couple forwards who can score consistently.
What's Larsson think of this? Well, when asked about trade rumors on Friday night, he said that he avoids reading them at all costs.
"I don't look at that," he said with a smile. "It would kill you right away, so I wouldn't do that.""
blinkman360
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Do a little research: I've always been a Nino supporter. BTW, how is wanting to trade Vanek being 'forgiving'? Not sure I get it.
I'm assuming you also want Grabner dealt, correct? I believe he was a part of it.
Vanek will be the most expensive for a reason.
I'm sure some teams will see this the way you do - go for the cheaper option, if that's what matters most. Other teams will decide that they want a Cup more than anything, and don't want to settle on the 2nd, 3rd or 4th best option... especially when there is a pretty big gap between them and #1. Someone will buckle and cough up a prized piece. If that means Snow will only get two pieces instead of three, I'm sure he'll be fine with it.
If Martin Erat can fetch Filip Forsberg, I'm sure Thomas Vanek can bring in a similar chip, regardless of the fact that he'll be a UFA.
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I think Vanek will fit right in with the Kings with Richards and Carter. You can make a "party" line with them.
blinkman360
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I think Vanek will fit right in with the Kings with Richards and Carter. You can make a "party" line with them.
..or Dallas with Seguin. Seemed to work out well for them once. Maybe they try again?
I was not targeting you here...I said "Funny how many are unrelenting about Nino's "whining."" I did not say or infer that you were one of the "many."
For the right price, anyone on this team, outside of JT, can be traded as far as I am concerned. Grabner is not that good that he should get a pass for his poor judgment and actions.
If the cheaper option is capable of providing offense at a lower cost, I'm sure teams would explore those options rather than give up a King's ransom for Vanek. Heck, if the Devils make Jagr available as has been indicated by some sources, he'd provide offense at a much lower cost than Vanek.
I'd certainly hope that Vanek would bring a much higher return than a prospect like Forsberg but that is exactly what I'm concerned about...that Garth will keep pressing for a return that is substantially more than teams are willing to pay and he'll have to "settle" for less that fair value.
SLAPSHOT723
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I'd kill to get Chiasson out of there for Vanek. Won't happen, but would be pretty sweet.
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McPhee was desperate for scoring.
The GMs who will be buying this trade deadline all have job security and won't be pressed to take a gamble like McPhee did especially with other viable options out there (although McPhee still has his job).
I could be wrong, but I don't think we'll be getting a top prospect who is relatively close to being NHL ready for Vanek.
The GMs who will be buying this trade deadline all have job security and won't be pressed to take a gamble like McPhee did especially with other viable options out there (although McPhee still has his job).
I could be wrong, but I don't think we'll be getting a top prospect who is relatively close to being NHL ready for Vanek.
SLAPSHOT723
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I think Washington would be more interested in AMac. They need a top-4 LHD badly to play with Mike Green.
I think if we get to #2 or 3 overall this year, we trade the pick get back a player who can help now and that teams 2015 1st round pick. Then when we trade vanek we get the same return for him a player who can help NOW and that team's 2015 1st rounder. So now we have 2 1st round picks in 2015. We give one to buffalo, we keep one for ourselves and if we play badly next year, we can be in the sweepstakes for McDavid.
IslesRock4
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If we trade the 2nd or 3rd overall, that already means we're giving Buffalo our 1st in 2015. That pick is the only pick that will be lowered or raised based on the Isles' record, so a crappy Isles season just means a higher pick for Buffalo. If the Isles manage to pick up 2 other 1sts in 2015, they don't need to give one of them to Buffalo, and neither pick will be affected based on the Isles' performance...
Understood, but still if that does happen think about it, we get players who can help now and we can still get a first round pick, which is still good. It can't hurt us, because we wouldn't be missing out on first round talent.
PWJunior
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This is more fan speak than what organizations normally do. The 2015 Draft is a long time away and a lot can change during that time. I'm sick of the McDavid talk, he's not the messiah.
Even if we have the 9th pick, we keep it. We're trying to improve now and some mythical 2015 draft pick isn't going to help that.
Snow is not trading this year's first if its a top five. Fans that think he will are just delusional. If Snow is lucky enough to wiggle another first for Vanek or AMAC then he might trade that pick. Again I would be very surprised if a first comes the Isles way for AMAC; perhaps a second if he's lucky. I doubt that the Isles get a close to ready prospect for Vanek. It most likely will be picks and grade B prospects; nothing that will be of use immediately. The best asset the Isles will get will be the player drafted, whether that be Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, or Dal Colle. I don't mind refilling the prospect pool with the Vanek and AMAC trades, however that does not help the team next year.
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SI90
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Agree with you. Callahan would be tremendous in the locker room, and some grittiness & leadership on the ice and add some offense in the next 2-3 years. With his style of play, he could fall off the cliff after that. If we had an owner who added him for that price and also brought in top tier talent to stick in goal, and steady defense I would be on board but we all know Wanger will give MAYBE one player a deal like that so we need to have a higher impact guy for the full term of the contract.
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