Official Francesco Aquilini Thread

[Hit the post]

Cause he's a dumb piece of shit.

At least SOME shit has some value as fertilizer/compost. Fredo is more like chicken shit. Really stinky & useless.

It's funny how willing people are to give a self admitted gang member/violent criminal a pass because they like his music and he's popular. We don't want anything to do with scumbags like Voynov or Kane, but yeah lets get Snoop in the mix.

So f***ing cool man

Might be a step-up from the Aquaman crime family.

 

[archangel2]

He is a scumbag.

 

[Intangibos]

At least SOME shit has some value as fertilizer/compost. Fredo is more like chicken shit. Really stinky & useless.


Might be a step-up from the Aquaman crime family.

Yeah fair enough, I don't think Aquilini is much better. At least Snoop's criminal past has likely been exaggerated for street cred, the things we know about Aquilini is just what hasn't been swept under the rug.

 

[MS]

Yeah fair enough, I don't think Aquilini is much better. At least Snoop's criminal past has likely been exaggerated for street cred, the things we know about Aquilini is just what hasn't been swept under the rug.

One of those people was born into a poor broken home in a ghetto with limited opportunity and got into gangs and crime at a young age but appears to have become a better person with age/opportunity/wisdom.

The other was born a millionaire with every advantage in the world and has become a shittier and shittier person with time.

Also I'd bank on Snoop's IQ being 30 points higher than Fredo's.

 

[biturbo19]

One of those people was born into a poor broken home in a ghetto with limited opportunity and got into gangs and crime at a young age but appears to have become a better person with age/opportunity/wisdom.

The other was born a millionaire with every advantage in the world and has become a shittier and shittier person with time.

Also I'd bank on Snoop's IQ being 30 points higher than Fredo's.

I don't think i'd bet on that IQ points thing, given how skewed those testing metrics can be against people like Snoop compared to a silver spoon billionaire with more formal education.


But also, lol. What a goofy conversation to even be having.

The main thing is...i don't want any of those people involved in any hockey decisions. Snoop seems more likely to understand what he doesn't know and keep a healthy distance from the Hockey Ops side of the business. He's got huge marketing savvy that could be really useful. The Aquilini family all have the marketability of a spoiled grape. Utterly useless in that arena.

 

[racerjoe]

I don't think i'd bet on that IQ points thing, given how skewed those testing metrics can be against people like Snoop compared to a silver spoon billionaire with more formal education.


But also, lol. What a goofy conversation to even be having.

The main thing is...i don't want any of those people involved in any hockey decisions. Snoop seems more likely to understand what he doesn't know and keep a healthy distance from the Hockey Ops side of the business. He's got huge marketing savvy that could be really useful. The Aquilini family all have the marketability of a spoiled grape. Utterly useless in that arena.

What Snoop does have is a great vision to expand the game and give more opportunity to young Urban youth. He has been a hockey fan for a long time now too.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

if reynolds doesn't get the sens, he in theory could be an aggressive bidder for the canucks...

maybe i’m naïve about the intricacies and hidden costs of all this but if he can’t pull off a sens bid, a team in an undesirable city and limited market that is for sale, how’s he going to buy a team in one of the world’s most financially and geographically forbidding real estate markets that’s not for sale?

Yeah the ethical part is hard to say these days. Wealthy people have a certain way of doing things so aren’t going to change for anyone especially when they make it big. No reason to change their ways and methods.

If they weren’t ethical making their billions they won’t change once they are multi billionaires.

so my best case scenario here is the kind of smiley benevolent, only benignly evil and sociopathic billionaire who has made their money and has eased into a second life of luxury, philanthropy, and adulation-courting while continuing to accumulate terrifying stockpiles of wealth from their companies they no longer actively run and other passive income.

a bill gates, for ex. or in the local context a michael audain, vs the kind of nightmarish supervillain billionaire that chip wilson is.

a pipe dream of course, because that kind of billionaire invests in art and education, not hockey teams.

I continue to be more than a little surprised that the Aquilini's don't find another member of the family to be the ownership face of the Canucks.

And send Francesco back to selling blueberries and condos. It's PR-101, really.

it’s astounding really. i mean with the shady af way that family operates why wouldn’t they want to just have the people who have to deal with them quietly talk about how they are a bunch of evil assholes, vs the whole city talking about them being scumbags for the comparatively trivial offence of running the hockey team like a moron? why not eliminate that bad pr and go back to operating in the shadows?

 

[racerjoe]

how’s he going to buy a team in one of the world’s most financially and geographically forbidding real estate markets that’s not for sale?

It sounds like they chose not to pursue because they were not given an exclusive window to negotiate. So I wouldn't say price is what stopped the bid or didn't. With more desire for his home team maybe he is more patient?

I guess that doesn't matter as I currently don't see the Canucks for sale.

 

[VanJack]

Who are the worst kind of owners in profession sports? Clearly it's the billionaires who know next to nothing about the sport or the franchise they own.

But insist on meddling in ongoing operations and player personnel decisions. Welcome to Canucks Central.

 

[Bubbles]

Who are the worst kind of owners in profession sports? Clearly it's the billionaires who know next to nothing about the sport or the franchise they own.

But insist on meddling in ongoing operations and player personnel decisions. Welcome to Canucks Central.

One of the funniest things Aqua did in the last presser was when he said he wasn't Jerry Jones. I'm like, actually, you are exactly like Jerry Jones.

 

[mossey3535]

I realized something this playoffs.

Why is Aqua meddling with his own managment when what he could be actually making a difference absolutely fellating Gary and the rest of the NHL brass? It's not like the Canucks are constantly playing the bruins, why can't Aqua go full-on Jacobs?

Like why the f*** do some teams seem to get away with absolutely everything? Aren't all the owners billionaires? Shouldn't they all be lobbying for their team to get calls from the league? If they are, why the f*** is Aqua falling behind in influence to the point where much smaller markets are more favoured? Like who gives a f*** what Bryan Burke thought? He's not a billionaire or an owner...

 

[Bleach Clean]

That Gary Mason interview by Sekeres and Price was insightful. Francesco is positioning himself, in conversation anyway, as too trusting of Benning's direction. From the outside, it seems like Benning was the yes man. Very interesting.

Could be PR; could be legit. If it is that Francesco is too trusting, I wonder what happened with Gillis to finally have that trust erode? I would recommend checking this interview out.

 

[Hit the post]

One of the funniest things Aqua did in the last presser was when he said he wasn't Jerry Jones. I'm like, actually, you are exactly like Jerry Jones.

Jerry Jones actually made his "own money" to my knowledge. Frankie is more like the Danny Devito character in the Devito & Arnold movie "Twins".

 

[bbud]

I realized something this playoffs.

Why is Aqua meddling with his own managment when what he could be actually making a difference absolutely fellating Gary and the rest of the NHL brass? It's not like the Canucks are constantly playing the bruins, why can't Aqua go full-on Jacobs?

Like why the f*** do some teams seem to get away with absolutely everything? Aren't all the owners billionaires? Shouldn't they all be lobbying for their team to get calls from the league? If they are, why the f*** is Aqua falling behind in influence to the point where much smaller markets are more favoured? Like who gives a f*** what Bryan Burke thought? He's not a billionaire or an owner...

He got the team on a back door deal with Buttman who promised the other group a franchise to walk away and that means the owners in Vancouver are owned by guess who

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

That Gary Mason interview by Sekeres and Price was insightful. Francesco is positioning himself, in conversation anyway, as too trusting of Benning's direction. From the outside, it seems like Benning was the yes man. Very interesting.

Could be PR; could be legit. If it is that Francesco is too trusting, I wonder what happened with Gillis to finally have that trust erode? I would recommend checking this interview out.

LOL. A wealthy power hungry mogul who has a rap sheet of abusive labour practices along with a lot of other shady shit is being portrayed as a victim? He was too trusting??

Benning was a yes guy. He lasted longer than Nonis and Gillis combined with a worse record by being FAQs bitch.

 

[Bleach Clean]

LOL. A wealthy power hungry mogul who has a rap sheet of abusive labour practices along with a lot of other shady shit is being portrayed as a victim? He was too trusting??

Benning was a yes guy. He lasted longer than Nonis and Gillis combined with a worse record by being FAQs bitch.

I recommend you watch this:



It's Mason relaying what Francesco relayed to him. Meaning, how Francesco is positioning himself in the overall view.

 

[StreetHawk]

No one is buying that.

 

[Bubbles]

So I got around to that interview posted above.

So, 1st point. Anyone considered a "Aquilini whisperer" you have to be wary of, basically they'll never be critical of Aqua and have to be on their best behaviour, lest him be shunned by the billionaire.

Mason did say Aqua respects Rutherford so much, he won't meddle. But it was OK to meddle with Benning and Gillis...seems a weird double standard.

Very surprised to hear Luigi at all. In fact I think that's the first time I've heard his name involved in hockey ops.

Big point for me, is now all the media seems to crap on Benning when ALL of them were propping up all his moves, until the last year or so.

 

[Jyrki21]

Mason did say Aqua respects Rutherford so much, he won't meddle. But it was OK to meddle with Benning and Gillis...seems a weird double standard.

And was very clearly vetoing Rutherford with the Boudreau thing...

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

So I got around to that interview posted above.

So, 1st point. Anyone considered a "Aquilini whisperer" you have to be wary of, basically they'll never be critical of Aqua and have to be on their best behaviour, lest him be shunned by the billionaire.

Mason did say Aqua respects Rutherford so much, he won't meddle. But it was OK to meddle with Benning and Gillis...seems a weird double standard.

Very surprised to hear Luigi at all. In fact I think that's the first time I've heard his name involved in hockey ops.

Big point for me, is now all the media seems to crap on Benning when ALL of them were propping up all his moves, until the last year or so.

Interview starts at 13:00 onwards.

Gary Mason kisses FAQs ass and this interview was an attempt to do some major damage control...He looks pathetic to bring up his own father into this.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Very good response video to the above:

 

[Bleach Clean]

So I got around to that interview posted above.

So, 1st point. Anyone considered a "Aquilini whisperer" you have to be wary of, basically they'll never be critical of Aqua and have to be on their best behaviour, lest him be shunned by the billionaire.

Mason did say Aqua respects Rutherford so much, he won't meddle. But it was OK to meddle with Benning and Gillis...seems a weird double standard.

Very surprised to hear Luigi at all. In fact I think that's the first time I've heard his name involved in hockey ops.

Big point for me, is now all the media seems to crap on Benning when ALL of them were propping up all his moves, until the last year or so.

The media, in general, went to bat for the Benning regime due to access. I think they mention this in that Mason interview. It's that the Canucks will just cut you off if you don't toe the line.

That follow up about Gillis is what I was waiting for. Mason had to have asked that question in private, if he was interested in pushing at all, or Sekeres and Price would have talked to Mason after the interview about it. What is the threshold that gets Aquilini to meddle? I think it's when he gets outright challenged as Gillis had done on air.

It's interesting though that it is about the respect for the tenure, and not the position itself. This is key.

 

[Bubbles]

The media, in general, went to bat for the Benning regime due to access. I think they mention this in that Mason interview. It's that the Canucks will just cut you off if you don't toe the line.

That follow up about Gillis is what I was waiting for. Mason had to have asked that question in private, if he was interested in pushing at all, or Sekeres and Price would have talked to Mason after the interview about it. What is the threshold that gets Aquilini to meddle? I think it's when he gets outright challenged as Gillis had done on air.

It's interesting though that it is about the respect for the tenure, and not the position itself. This is key.

Which is why I have no respect for any of the local media, because they were all hands off on Benning. And now that he's gone, they're dancing on his grave. I remember the days of Skeletor ripping into the Canucks and Mason was quite critical back in the day. Now we're stuck with the owner's lapdog of Ian Macintyre. Drance only went loco in the last year.

I have no doubt Aqua will meddle if things go south.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Which is why I have no respect for any of the local media, because they were all hands off on Benning. And now that he's gone, they're dancing on his grave. I remember the days of Skeletor ripping into the Canucks and Mason was quite critical back in the day. Now we're stuck with the owner's lapdog of Ian Macintyre. Drance only went loco in the last year.

I have no doubt Aqua will meddle if things go south.

Botchford & JD Burke and a bit later Thomas Drance & JPat were certainly not... Harman was always a Botch guy so he also. But he is such a nice guy he never really seems to burry anyone.

 

[Bubbles]

Botchford & JD Burke and a bit later Thomas Drance & JPat were certainly not... Harman was always a Botch guy so he also. But he is such a nice guy he never really seems to burry anyone.

Botch and JPatterson yes, were fairly critical. But Drance was only more vocal in the last year or two. He only turned when the tide started turning on Benning.