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tradervik said:
Option 1: FAQ is a meddling owner who micromanages to the point of picking the music to play during stoppages.

Option 2: FAQ is just a simple minded fan taken in by the devious Benning.

Personally, I think 1 is far more likely than 2 (and I nearly gagged typing "devious Benning").
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Ya you think Francesco was all about guys like Linden Vey, Myers, Baertschi, Dickinson, Sbisa, Sutter and Gudbranson? Come the f*** on
 
tradervik said:
Option 1: FAQ is a meddling owner who micromanages to the point of picking the music to play during stoppages.

Option 2: FAQ is just a simple minded fan taken in by the devious Benning.

Personally, I think 1 is far more likely than 2 (and I nearly gagged typing "devious Benning").
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option 3: we are watching two morons being morons together
 
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tradervik said:
Option 1: FAQ is a meddling owner who micromanages to the point of picking the music to play during stoppages.

Option 2: FAQ is just a simple minded fan taken in by the devious Benning.

Personally, I think 1 is far more likely than 2 (and I nearly gagged typing "devious Benning").
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Option 3. FAQ hired a manager who aligns with his team building thinking and lets the guy do his job after reviewing the plan and maybe making some input(this is how it's been described by Benning numerous times).

The idea FAQ had to have Dickinson or Myers and was twisting arms to make it happen is just ridiculous. There is no way Benning didn't also want these guys.

I honestly think Jim has quite a bit of autonomy and it's because FAQ likes and believes in what he's selling. They think the same. Benning doesn't have to smart or devious for this to be true, they both just have to be of average to below average intelligence.
 
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Ya you think Francesco was all about guys like Linden Vey, Myers, Baertschi, Dickinson, Sbisa, Sutter and Gudbranson? Come the f*** on
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No, FAQ is not out there scouting the likes of Vey, but there's good reason to believe he is pushing the buttons on Benning to splurge on free agents and trade for big name players like OEL. I'm not saying Benning shouldn't be fired, but what's the point if FAQ just hires another GM just like him?
 
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tradervik said:
No, FAQ is not out there scouting the likes of Vey, but there's good reason to believe he is pushing the buttons on Benning to splurge on free agents and trade for big name players like OEL. I'm not saying Benning shouldn't be fired, but what's the point if FAQ just hires another GM just like him?
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It presents a possibility that the new GM can effectively manage upwards, like they're supposed to, and keep Aquilini pointed in the right direction. The current one obviously cannot do this.
 
tradervik said:
No, FAQ is not out there scouting the likes of Vey, but there's good reason to believe he is pushing the buttons on Benning to splurge on free agents and trade for big name players like OEL. I'm not saying Benning shouldn't be fired, but what's the point if FAQ just hires another GM just like him?
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Making funds available to the manager you've placed your trust in and align with isn't meddling or pushing the buttons.

Hell we already know the reason Linden left and Benning stayed and it's because Jim believed and aligned with FAQ. I mean maybe Jim has no convictions into what he's doing and is just doing what he thinks the owner wants, but I think that's pretty unrealistic.
 
tradervik said:
No, FAQ is not out there scouting the likes of Vey, but there's good reason to believe he is pushing the buttons on Benning to splurge on free agents and trade for big name players like OEL. I'm not saying Benning shouldn't be fired, but what's the point if FAQ just hires another GM just like him?
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So Francesco says “hey Jim I want you to win and bring good players here” and what we’ve seen is Jim’s execution of those orders? Christ- that’s worse!
 
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4Twenty said:
Making funds available to the manager you've placed your trust in and align with isn't meddling or pushing the buttons.

Hell we already know the reason Linden left and Benning stayed and it's because Jim believed and aligned with FAQ. I mean maybe Jim has no convictions into what he's doing and is just doing what he thinks the owner wants, but I think that's pretty unrealistic.
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Considering the way he speaks to the media, that's probably not the wildest theory available.
 
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4Twenty said:
Option 3. FAQ hired a manager who aligns with his team building thinking and lets the guy do his job after reviewing the plan and maybe making some input(this is how it's been described by Benning numerous times).

The idea FAQ had to have Dickinson or Myers and was twisting arms to make it happen is just ridiculous. There is no way Benning didn't also want these guys.

I honestly think Jim has quite a bit of autonomy and it's because FAQ likes and believes in what he's selling. They think the same. Benning doesn't have to smart or devious for this to be true, they both just have to be of average to below average intelligence.
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This is correct
 
RobertKron said:
Considering the way he speaks to the media, that's probably not the wildest theory available.
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Really? He sold OEL as a Norris.....was that just regurgitating FAQ's words?

I'm convinced Benning thinks he's got a good team, just as he did when he "upgraded" the roster for the 15/16 season. I think he believes the cookie cutter roster build is a contender and I think he's dumbfounded to why it's not working.

edit* I would just like to add that I'm not really up to date on how he speaks to the media because I refuse to listen to that idiot and his coach make up excuses.
 
4Twenty said:
Really? He sold OEL as a Norris.....was that just regurgitating FAQ's words?

I'm convinced Benning thinks he's got a good team, just as he did when he "upgraded" the roster for the 15/16 season. I think he believes the cookie cutter roster build is a contender and I think he's dumbfounded to why it's not working.
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He very clearly speaks to the media by just blurting out whatever bullshit he thinks will make them happy with him at the time, with very little thought to anything beyond the moment the mic is out of his face.
 
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I'll try to make my position clearer. I'm not saying Benning shouldn't be fired. I am saying that firing Benning is not enough if FAQ remains in charge as he will simply hire another GM who "aligns with his vision". The idea that he might stumble upon a good GM is like me daydreaming about winning the lottery.
 
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Just chant fire Travis. It worked for Gillis. All of you mad at AQ go on Wedmesday and when AVs go up 7 nothing start it.
 
4Twenty said:
Option 3. FAQ hired a manager who aligns with his team building thinking and lets the guy do his job after reviewing the plan and maybe making some input(this is how it's been described by Benning numerous times).

The idea FAQ had to have Dickinson or Myers and was twisting arms to make it happen is just ridiculous. There is no way Benning didn't also want these guys.

I honestly think Jim has quite a bit of autonomy and it's because FAQ likes and believes in what he's selling. They think the same. Benning doesn't have to smart or devious for this to be true, they both just have to be of average to below average intelligence.
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Average intelligence and he barely speaks in his native language at 60 years old? Really? You guys don;t understand what average means. Most people on earth have average intelligence. Jim is at least 1 tier bellow. People with average intelligence can be math and physics teachers from middle-highschool. Do you think Jim is capable of such a feat? I don't think he knows the multiplication table for all numbers from 1-10. You do this in the 2nd grade in my country.
 
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tradervik said:
I'll try to make my position clearer. I'm not saying Benning shouldn't be fired. I am saying that firing Benning is not enough if FAQ remains in charge as he will simply hire another GM who "aligns with his vision". The idea that he might stumble upon a good GM is like me daydreaming about winning the lottery.
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He did it previously.
 
tradervik said:
I'll try to make my position clearer. I'm not saying Benning shouldn't be fired. I am saying that firing Benning is not enough if FAQ remains in charge as he will simply hire another GM who "aligns with his vision". The idea that he might stumble upon a good GM is like me daydreaming about winning the lottery.
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I think there's only 1 Jim Benning/John Weisbrod tandem out there in the NHL circles and of course they've been running the Canucks for 8 seasons and counting.

Agreed, the root of the problem starts at the top but it would be a start at the very least.

I am just looking forward to listening to a General Manager that doesn't make me feel less intelligent after listening to Jim Benning speak, remember those days?
 
FA has owned the team fully since 2006? And oversaw some of the very best years the franchise has ever had. Golden years, '07-'12. I don't know what the hell happened. Did he enjoy seeing a team comprised of the Art Ross Sedins, Selke Kesler, Luongo and Burrows become one of the worst franchises in the NHL over the span of almost a decade?
 
Aquilini might actually somehow be more stupid than Benning/Weisbrod since he continuously supports their decisions. It's one thing to be incompetent and bad at your job, it's another when your boss is actively enabling it.
 
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Aquilini might actually somehow be more stupid than Benning/Weisbrod since he continuously supports their decisions. It's one thing to be incompetent and bad at your job, it's another when your boss is actively enabling it.
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I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. In my thinking, FAq is convinced that he knows better than those other schmuck owners who patiently collect draft picks and build a team the conventional way. No, that way is for losers! He's gonna show everyone how a dynasty can be built on the fly with revolutionary thinking like:
1) Importing vets from prior cup winners to bring their culture of success to the locker room and show the young guys how it's done.
2) Closing the age gap by fleecing rival teams who give up on guys just before they break out (suckers!).
3) Bringing in those guys who were franchise cornerstones because they totally going to do the same thing here!

He's like a patron from the enlightenment era who believes in alchemy and throws a fortune at a vanity project to demonstrate to the world he was right.

So not so much stupid as prideful. And we the fans are the collateral damage.
 
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tradervik said:
I'll try to make my position clearer. I'm not saying Benning shouldn't be fired. I am saying that firing Benning is not enough if FAQ remains in charge as he will simply hire another GM who "aligns with his vision". The idea that he might stumble upon a good GM is like me daydreaming about winning the lottery.
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Don't really disagree but the hope is that any hire will be allowed to do their jobs without much interference and or be able to do a good job within the confines of ownership's mandate.

The reality is that no GM in charge of this team is going to rebuild this team. Think back to Gillis' first press conference. What he said was "A couple of very good decisions, or a couple of really bold decisions might put this team in a position to win almost immediately... I am fully committed to being as aggressive as possible.”

Does the above quote sound like something FAQ would get on board? Sure sounds like it doesn't it?
 
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