Speculation: Official Fantasy Trade Offers/Armchair GM Thread

[TheImpatientPanther]

So just a list of teams Tallon should be in contact with leading up to the draft, kick the tires on some of these players.

MONTREAL - Patches, Gallagher

CHICAGO - Kruger, Hossa (retained, I think it affects CHI a lot more if he retires a lot like the Luongo situation with VAN)

MINNESOTA - Coyle, Nino, Zucker

PHILADELPHIA - Simmonds, B. Schenn

NEW JERSEY - Henrique

DETROIT - Nyquist

NEW YORK - Zuccarello, Stepan

Feel free to add to the list.

 

[RainingRats]

So just a list of teams Tallon should be in contact with leading up to the draft, kick the tires on some of these players.

MONTREAL - Patches, Gallagher

CHICAGO - Kruger, Hossa (retained, I think it affects CHI a lot more if he retires a lot like the Luongo situation with VAN)

MINNESOTA - Coyle, Nino, Zucker

PHILADELPHIA - Simmonds, B. Schenn

NEW JERSEY - Henrique

DETROIT - Nyquist

NEW YORK - Zuccarello, Stepan

Feel free to add to the list.

Hossa has an expensive contract. Can't see us wanting to get older, tbh either.

Not sure why Wild would consider moving Coyle. Young and good contract. I think Brodin could be added.

Simmonds would be too expensive to get. Good contract, NTC too. Voracek and Giroux are probably available but good luck with those contracts.

I also can't see the Rangers moving Zuccarello. I'd swap Nash for Zucc. I think Kreider or JT miller may also be available. Some of their D too but we wouldn't want any.

Buffalo - Kane

Ottawa - Ryan NMC

Los Angeles - Jeff Carter, I wish. Gaborik for sure


CBJ has some cap space issues. Saad doesn't have a NTC so he could be moved. Would be very expensive to acquire though. Jack Johnson could be on the block too with one year from free agency. Scott Hartnell is the obvious player to move but he has a NMC and a contract that isn't appealing.

Tampa - Tyler Johnson

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

So just a list of teams Tallon should be in contact with leading up to the draft, kick the tires on some of these players.

MONTREAL - Patches, Gallagher

CHICAGO - Kruger, Hossa (retained, I think it affects CHI a lot more if he retires a lot like the Luongo situation with VAN)

MINNESOTA - Coyle, Nino, Zucker

PHILADELPHIA - Simmonds, B. Schenn

NEW JERSEY - Henrique

DETROIT - Nyquist

NEW YORK - Zuccarello, Stepan

Feel free to add to the list.

Nyquist seems like a possibility to me only if the Red Wings are ready to embrace a rebuild.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Hossa has an expensive contract. Can't see us wanting to get older, tbh either.

Not sure why Wild would consider moving Coyle. Young and good contract. I think Brodin could be added.

Simmonds would be too expensive to get. Good contract, NTC too. Voracek and Giroux are probably available but good luck with those contracts.

I also can't see the Rangers moving Zuccarello. I'd swap Nash for Zucc. I think Kreider or JT miller may also be available. Some of their D too but we wouldn't want any.

Buffalo - Kane

Ottawa - Ryan NMC

Los Angeles - Jeff Carter, I wish. Gaborik for sure


CBJ has some cap space issues. Saad doesn't have a NTC so he could be moved. Would be very expensive to acquire though. Jack Johnson could be on the block too with one year from free agency. Scott Hartnell is the obvious player to move but he has a NMC and a contract that isn't appealing.

Tampa - Tyler Johnson

CHI - Put Hossa there just as an option, he's 38, just a young pup compared to Jagr. Tallon loves his old Hawks and could be a retained deal and the cost be for less then what most think. If Hossa's retirement hurts CHI more than us then why not bring in a big body stop gap? He'd be pretty useful with Huberdeau and Barkov.

MIN - They have Koivu, Granlund and Staal in their Center depth, figured he may be the odd many out even though he is way younger. Love what he brings, more of a wish then anything. Nino or Zucker would be a cheaper option. Brodin would be a solid add to the back end.

PHI - Simmer is my fave player so you see why he's on the list. He'd be expensive but exactly what we need, only 2 years left on contract scares me a bit but the same situation as Patches. Do we risk futures for 2 years of a 30 goal guy?

NYR - They've expressed interest in clearing space and getting younger. Both Stepan and Zuccarello have been offered in many proposals around here. Don't see Zuccs being a long term fit in NYR.

BUF - Kane only has a year left, a lot like the sitaution with Nash. I like them but not as a rental.

LA- Carter/Wheeler would be ideal fits a lot like Simmonds but both would be huge cost.

TBL - Would they trade him to a divisional rival?

Nyquist seems like a possibility to me only if the Red Wings are ready to embrace a rebuild.

I think they are, they should be trading Green, Howard and Nyquist for futures, maybe not all in one year but the time is now for them to tank and do a smart, lengthy build.

 

[harv33173]

i think we'll be surprised at some of tallon's moves, in a GOOD way!!!

 

[FrolikFan67]

tallon has never been great when it comes to contracts, but trades is the one thing i think he's excelled at. so after this season and management probably desperate i look forward to what tallon may be able to do trade wise.

if we somehow got pac that'd be incredible. he turned 28 this season, has 2yrs left at an insanely good 4.5per price tag, no nmc/ntc restricting him, one of the best goal scoring wingers for like over half a decade now. not only should it cost a lot, but being divisional rivals would probably make it even more expensive. it'd be funny how much habs fans would hate on him, getting so much blame over there if he went to a divisional rival that'd be pretty hilarious actually. i know they want a top center but i don't think they'll be getting a reasonable young center who has a good chance of being a number if not already, even though the contract is great its still only for 2yrs, a ufa after, and would 30 at that point. if theres a high end center at pick #9 then perhaps we could trade that plus something, but the other something probably would have to be something pretty decent and not just bjugstad with some retained. they still have plekanec for one more year and they should be happy with galchenyuk. probably resign radulov if thats the case, still have gallagher, shaw.

if we could find a way to trade for him without giving up trocheck using the 9th pick as the big piece then id be all for it.

 

[ShootIt]

starting this upcoming season Hossa will carry a cap hit of 5.275m but his salary will be 1 million.
Now, not sure how the cap penalty breaks down on his deal, but in terms of actual paychecks the owners write out, Hossa for 1m is a damn good deal even at his age. Problem is that his deal goes til he's 42 years old, and I'm not sure if he wants to play at this age for only a million a year, especiallu if moved from the Hawks to a team that may not make the playoffs/go as far as the Hawks could

 

[BeezKnees]

starting this upcoming season Hossa will carry a cap hit of 5.275m but his salary will be 1 million.
Now, not sure how the cap penalty breaks down on his deal, but in terms of actual paychecks the owners write out, Hossa for 1m is a damn good deal even at his age. Problem is that his deal goes til he's 42 years old, and I'm not sure if he wants to play at this age for only a million a year, especiallu if moved from the Hawks to a team that may not make the playoffs/go as far as the Hawks could

Is that really a problem though? Not everyone is Jagr and can produce into their 40's. Hossa is more likely to drop off in the next couple of years and by then, whatever team he's playing for would welcome his retirement. For a couple of years though, I imagine he'll still be a solid goal-scoring, defensively reliable winger.

 

[harv33173]

i'd also look at stewart and boyle. probably cheap and probably available and both fill a need.

 

[ShootIt]

Is that really a problem though? Not everyone is Jagr and can produce into their 40's. Hossa is more likely to drop off in the next couple of years and by then, whatever team he's playing for would welcome his retirement. For a couple of years though, I imagine he'll still be a solid goal-scoring, defensively reliable winger.

Well, it could be a problem in regards to the cap recapture penalty and how it affects the Hawks/the team trading for him. What's the cap penalty for the Panthers, for example, if he retires in 2018 with 3 years left on his deal?

 

[RogerRoger]

Well, it could be a problem in regards to the cap recapture penalty and how it affects the Hawks/the team trading for him. What's the cap penalty for the Panthers, for example, if he retires in 2018 with 3 years left on his deal?

Would be nothing, the penalty is for the years the salary is higher than the cap hit.

 

[SoupyFIN]

Well, it could be a problem in regards to the cap recapture penalty and how it affects the Hawks/the team trading for him. What's the cap penalty for the Panthers, for example, if he retires in 2018 with 3 years left on his deal?

If Hossa intends to retire at some point, I'm sure he's going to tell about it to the Hawks in advance and they'll work out a deal with a rebuilding team to buyout his contract to avoid the recapture penalties. Say he plays until 2019 (very likely given his current performance), that's only a 4.6M caphit for two years and actual cost of 1.3M, a rebuilding team that doesn't need the cap space can easily afford that, if the Hawks sweeten the deal with a pick/prospect.

Though Hossa scored almost 30 goals and 50 points (26G/45pts in 73GP), so I doubt he's thinking about retirement yet.

 

[CanadianPantherFan]

I'd be interested in Gallagher

Man can't stand that guy ha. Way more dislike for him than say McCabe, Bertuzzi or others prior to being traded to Fla. Really hard for me to get on board if that happened

 

[ShootIt]

Would be nothing, the penalty is for the years the salary is higher than the cap hit.

http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2016/3/9/11185632/marian-hossa-nhl-salary-cap-recapture-penalty-blackhawks-retirement-ltir

Looks like there is some penalties if he retires early.

 

[RogerRoger]

http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2016/3/9/11185632/marian-hossa-nhl-salary-cap-recapture-penalty-blackhawks-retirement-ltir

Looks like there is some penalties if he retires early.

For the Hawks, yes, for the Panthers no.

"Cap recapture penalties are based on the differential between the amount of money paid and the accrued salary cap hits prior to a player's retirement."

The Panthers would get not cap advantage by paing 1M with a cap hit of 5.275. The recapture is for the amount of cap hit the Blackhawks "dodged".

 

[ShootIt]

For the Hawks, yes, for the Panthers no.

"Cap recapture penalties are based on the differential between the amount of money paid and the accrued salary cap hits prior to a player's retirement."

The Panthers would get not cap advantage by paing 1M with a cap hit of 5.275. The recapture is for the amount of cap hit the Blackhawks "dodged".

So, we got the recapture penalty for Luongo due to his salary, at the time of trade, being higher than the cap hit?

 

[RogerRoger]

So, we got the recapture penalty for Luongo due to his salary, at the time of trade, being higher than the cap hit?

It would be small but yes. http://theprovince.com/sports/hocke...s-facing-a-robert-luongo-salary-cap-nightmare

 

[Brokin]

tallon has never been great when it comes to contracts, but trades is the one thing i think he's excelled at. so after this season and management probably desperate i look forward to what tallon may be able to do trade wise.

He has been hot/cold. Anything with Chicago has been garbage except Soup. Soups contract was a favor to Bowman to free up the Cap. Anything with Vancouver has been gold. Fortunately he was able to get rid Hayes for Smith/Savard but we still took it on the chin with Savard to NJ (which may be more the AGM's).

 

[EnforceTheLaus]

Kings can't buy out Gaborik due to foot injury. If they need cap help I would love to pry away Alec Martinez.

 

[IceManCat]

Kings can't buy out Gaborik due to foot injury. If they need cap help I would love to pry away Alec Martinez.

I would love to pry the number 10 pick.

 

[FrolikFan67]

He has been hot/cold. Anything with Chicago has been garbage except Soup. Soups contract was a favor to Bowman to free up the Cap. Anything with Vancouver has been gold. Fortunately he was able to get rid Hayes for Smith/Savard but we still took it on the chin with Savard to NJ (which may be more the AGM's).

theyre not all winners (he traded frolik for skille, you can imagine how i feel about that ), but he hits more on his trades than on his signings. "excels" may have come off as excessive, i just meant he's pretty solid when it comes to trades for him.

 

[Brokin]

Let's sign Jordan Weal from the Flyers as a UFA. 5'9"/180 - sound familiar + he's no cupcake? Yeah, this guy is Jonathan Marchessault clone except he can play all 3 positions on the line. He is the energizer bunny + with skill/shot and creative with the puck (which March isn't) + he was a 50% F/O guy for 23 games in the NHL. In 23 games with the Flyers he had 8G/4A with a 16% shooting percentage. Always a point per game producer in AHL and only 25. No problem giving this guy $1M per +/2yrs one way contract since we paid March $750K/2 yrs and Sceviour $950K/2 yrs. Sheary is the same size and Jake Guentzel is 180 and lining up with Crosby. So enough about being too small in this league. If you can play, you should play.

This is the kind of guy you need if you want a high cardio pressure the puck team. Get him signed.

 

[Braeden]

So what would it take to land Nick Bjugstad from the Canucks side of things? We need big bodied right handed shots.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

So what would it take to land Nick Bjugstad from the Canucks side of things? We need big bodied right handed shots.

Scoring wingers and defensive dmen are our current needs.

Something around Boeser maybe?

 

[Braeden]

Scoring wingers and defensive dmen are our current needs.

Something around Boeser maybe?

Boeser is one of our top 3 prospects, it would take more than Bjugstad to acquire him. He's pretty much untouchable.

Gudbranson for Bjugstad+10th?