Official 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Really hoping that the Michkov effect sees us dipping more into Russia, especially the later rounds. Now is the time to find gems when teams aren't able to scout as closely.

Andrei Krutov, Ilya Pautov, and Timur Kol all stick out when looking at DY numbers.
 
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Alright I partially said this in the rumor thread, but I am going to say it fully here.

If the flyers are targeting Catton for the 12th pick, as many here seem to want, I think they would be better served trading the 12th pick to Anaheim as part of a package for Zegras. Zegras and Catton are very similar players. The difference is one is proven in the NHL with multiple 60+ point seasons, while the other likely has the same time horizion of most draft picks in regards to time to legit NHL impact which is 2+ years. The biggest thing is though Zegras is exactly what you could hope Catton will be, so taking the proven model that can make an impact immediately just makes so much more sense.

I will specify that this is only really makes sense if the Flyers are indeed targeting Catton. Helenius and Iginla have 2 way games and grit that make them potentially valuable in a way that Zegras is not, so if the Flyers front office values those traits higher in their roster construction I can understand why they would not make that trade. If they are actually leaning towards Catton though, they might as well get the version that impacts the team immediately.
 
If the flyers are targeting Catton for the 12th pick, as many here seem to want, I think they would be better served trading the 12th pick to Anaheim as part of a package for Zegras. Zegras and Catton are very similar players. The difference is one is proven in the NHL with multiple 60+ point seasons, while the other likely has the same time horizion of most draft picks in regards to time to legit NHL impact which is 2+ years. The biggest thing is though Zegras is exactly what you could hope Catton will be, so taking the proven model that can make an impact immediately just makes so much more sense.

I am almost always the one talking about how individual prospects in general are overrated, but to me this is exactly what you can’t do if you want to be successful long term in a hard cap league. You don’t make A/B choices like this in a vacuum. One of those players is heading into his D+6.

In the broad spectrum of outcomes, you get a better career from Zegras the majority of the time. But not all of that minority is particularly close. Making the Catton pick is an attempt to buy that specific star equity. And it’s not just Catton outcomes that you’re getting. You’re buying 3 years of an ELC, then some RFA control, and the players/assets the differences in cap hit buys you in the next X years.
 
I am almost always the one talking about how individual prospects in general are overrated, but to me this is exactly what you can’t do if you want to be successful long term in a hard cap league. You don’t make A/B choices like this in a vacuum. One of those players is heading into his D+6.

In the broad spectrum of outcomes, you get a better career from Zegras the majority of the time. But not all of that minority is particularly close. Making the Catton pick is an attempt to buy that specific star equity. And it’s not just Catton outcomes that you’re getting. You’re buying 3 years of an ELC, then some RFA control, and the players/assets the differences in cap hit buys you in the next X years.
Catton…Zegras for Florida pick and Farabee would be a good days work. If possible.
 
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I have a spreadsheet with the average rankings from 12 "Experts." They are:
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[TD]Smaht[/TD]
[TD]McKeens[/TD]
[TD]THN[/TD]
[TD]EP[/TD]
[TD]Ferrari[/TD]
[TD]THW Barrachinni[/TD]
[TD]Horn[/TD]
[TD]Pronman[/TD]
[TD]Wheeler[/TD]
[TD]Button[/TD]
[TD]McKenzie[/TD]
[TD]Peters[/TD]
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Here are the top 97:
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[TD]Rank[/TD]
[TD]First[/TD]
[TD]Last[/TD]
[TD]Pos[/TD]
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[TD]League[/TD]
[TD]Ht[/TD]
[TD]Wt[/TD]
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[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Macklin[/TD]
[TD]Celebrini[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Boston U[/TD]
[TD]Heast[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Ivan[/TD]
[TD]Demidov[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]SKA St Pete[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]158[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Artyom[/TD]
[TD]Levshunov[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Michigan State[/TD]
[TD]B1G[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Cayden[/TD]
[TD]Lindstrom[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Medicine Hat[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6'5[/TD]
[TD]190[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Zeev[/TD]
[TD]Buium[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]USNDTP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]183[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Sam[/TD]
[TD]Dickenson[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]London[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]194[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Berkly[/TD]
[TD]Catton[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Spokane[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]163[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Zayne[/TD]
[TD]Parekh[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Saginaw[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]183[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Tij[/TD]
[TD]Iginlia[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Kelowna[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]186[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Anton[/TD]
[TD]Silayev[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]Torpedo Novogrod[/TD]
[TD]KHL[/TD]
[TD]6'7[/TD]
[TD]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Cole[/TD]
[TD]Eiserman[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]USNDTP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]194[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Konsta[/TD]
[TD]Helenius[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Jukirit[/TD]
[TD]Fin Jr[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]168[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Beckett[/TD]
[TD]Sennecke[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Oshawa[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]187[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Carter[/TD]
[TD]Yakemchuck[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Calgary[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]183[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]Michael[/TD]
[TD]Brandseeg-Nygard[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Mora[/TD]
[TD]SEL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]194[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]Liam[/TD]
[TD]Greentree[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Windsor[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]188[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]Adam[/TD]
[TD]Jiricek[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Plezn[/TD]
[TD]Chech Jr[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]168[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]Michael[/TD]
[TD]Hage[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Chicago[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]161[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Trevor[/TD]
[TD]Connelly[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Tri City[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]Igor[/TD]
[TD]Chernyshov[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Dynamo Moskow[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]Sacha[/TD]
[TD]Boisvert[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Muskegan[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]170[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]Jett[/TD]
[TD]Luchanko[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Guelph[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Stian[/TD]
[TD]Solberg[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]Valeranga[/TD]
[TD]Norway[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]196[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Emil[/TD]
[TD]Hemming[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]TPS[/TD]
[TD]Fin Jr[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]196[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]Ryder[/TD]
[TD]Ritchie[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Prince Albert[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]173[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]Eric J[/TD]
[TD]Emery[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]USNDTP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]181[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]Nikita[/TD]
[TD]Artamonov[/TD]
[TD]LW/RW[/TD]
[TD]Torpedo Novogrod[/TD]
[TD]KHL[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]Cole[/TD]
[TD]Beaudoin[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Barrie[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]201[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]Andrew[/TD]
[TD]Basha[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Medicine Hat[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]Terik[/TD]
[TD]Parascak[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Prince George[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]174[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]Alfons[/TD]
[TD]Freij[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]Vaxjo[/TD]
[TD]J20[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]192[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]Teddy[/TD]
[TD]Stiga[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]USNDTP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]5'9[/TD]
[TD]155[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]Marek[/TD]
[TD]Vanacker[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Brantford[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]Lucas[/TD]
[TD]Pettersson[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Modo[/TD]
[TD]J20[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]170[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]Leo[/TD]
[TD]Sahlin Wallenius[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]Vjaxo[/TD]
[TD]Swed jr[/TD]
[TD]5'11.5[/TD]
[TD]176[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]36[/TD]
[TD]Dominik[/TD]
[TD]Badinka[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Malmo[/TD]
[TD]Swed Jr[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]183[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]37[/TD]
[TD]Charlie[/TD]
[TD]Elick[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Brandon[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]191[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]Dean[/TD]
[TD]Letourneau[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]St Andrews[/TD]
[TD]CHS[/TD]
[TD]6'6[/TD]
[TD]210[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]39[/TD]
[TD]Linus[/TD]
[TD]Eriksson[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Djurgardens[/TD]
[TD]SEL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]170[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]Yegor[/TD]
[TD]Surin[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Yarasloval[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]174[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]41[/TD]
[TD]Cole[/TD]
[TD]Hutson[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]USNDTP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]5'10[/TD]
[TD]157[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]42[/TD]
[TD]Henry[/TD]
[TD]Mews[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Ottawa[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]183[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]43[/TD]
[TD]Maxim[/TD]
[TD]Masse[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Chicoutimi[/TD]
[TD]QMJHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]44[/TD]
[TD]Julius[/TD]
[TD]Miettinen[/TD]
[TD]C/W[/TD]
[TD]Everett[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]209[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]45[/TD]
[TD]Aron[/TD]
[TD]Kiviharju[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]TPS[/TD]
[TD]Fin Jr[/TD]
[TD]5'10[/TD]
[TD]157[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD]Sam[/TD]
[TD]O'Reilly[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]London[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]186[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]Matvei[/TD]
[TD]Gridin[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Muskegon[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]49[/TD]
[TD]John[/TD]
[TD]Mustard[/TD]
[TD]FWD[/TD]
[TD]Waterloo[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]Luke[/TD]
[TD]Misa[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Mississauga[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]5'10[/TD]
[TD]165[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]51[/TD]
[TD]Adam[/TD]
[TD]Kleber[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Lincoln[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6'5[/TD]
[TD]201[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]52[/TD]
[TD]Adam[/TD]
[TD]Jecho[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Taapara[/TD]
[TD]Fin Jr[/TD]
[TD]6'5[/TD]
[TD]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]53[/TD]
[TD]Tanner[/TD]
[TD]Howe[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]Regina[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]5'10[/TD]
[TD]178[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD]Matvei[/TD]
[TD]Shuravin[/TD]
[TD]LD[/TD]
[TD]CSKA[/TD]
[TD]Rus Jr[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]195[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]55[/TD]
[TD]Harrison[/TD]
[TD]Brunicke[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Kamloops[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]184[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]Ben[/TD]
[TD]Danford[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Oshawa[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]194[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]58[/TD]
[TD]Jesse[/TD]
[TD]Pulkkinen[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]JYP[/TD]
[TD]Fin Jr[/TD]
[TD]6'6[/TD]
[TD]203[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]59[/TD]
[TD]Marcus[/TD]
[TD]Gildof[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Leksand[/TD]
[TD]SEL[/TD]
[TD]6'6[/TD]
[TD]212[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]Justin[/TD]
[TD]Poirier[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Baie-Comeau[/TD]
[TD]QMJHL[/TD]
[TD]5'7[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]61[/TD]
[TD]Tomas[/TD]
[TD]Galvas[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]Liberc[/TD]
[TD]Czech[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]148[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]62[/TD]
[TD]Anthony[/TD]
[TD]Cristoforo[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]Windsor[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]63[/TD]
[TD]Leon[/TD]
[TD]Muggli[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Zug[/TD]
[TD]Sui NL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]165[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD]Will[/TD]
[TD]Skahan[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]USNDTP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6'4[/TD]
[TD]205[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]65[/TD]
[TD]Topias[/TD]
[TD]Hynninen[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Jukirit[/TD]
[TD]Liiga[/TD]
[TD]5'10[/TD]
[TD]164[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]66[/TD]
[TD]Miguel[/TD]
[TD]Marques[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Lethbridge[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]5'10.5[/TD]
[TD]173[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]67[/TD]
[TD]Carter[/TD]
[TD]George[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Owen Sound[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]190[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]68[/TD]
[TD]Kamil[/TD]
[TD]Bednarik[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]USNDTP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]186[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]69[/TD]
[TD]Mikhail[/TD]
[TD]Yegorov[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Omaha[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]6'4.5[/TD]
[TD]179[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]70[/TD]
[TD]Spencer[/TD]
[TD]Gill[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Rimouski[/TD]
[TD]QMJHL[/TD]
[TD]6'4[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]71[/TD]
[TD]Luca[/TD]
[TD]Marrelli[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Oshawa[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]Noel[/TD]
[TD]Fransen[/TD]
[TD]Farjestads[/TD]
[TD]Farjestads[/TD]
[TD]Swed J20[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]73[/TD]
[TD]AJ[/TD]
[TD]Spellacy[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Windsor[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]190[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]74[/TD]
[TD]Ryerson[/TD]
[TD]Leenders[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Mississauga[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]75[/TD]
[TD]Brodie[/TD]
[TD]Ziemer[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]USNDTP[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]190[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]76[/TD]
[TD]Daniil[/TD]
[TD]Ustinkov[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]ZSC[/TD]
[TD]Swiss Jr[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]77[/TD]
[TD]Owen[/TD]
[TD]Allard[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]SSM[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1.75[/TD]
[TD]199[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]78[/TD]
[TD]Tarin[/TD]
[TD]Smith[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Everett[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]175[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]79[/TD]
[TD]Lukas[/TD]
[TD]Fischer[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]Sarnia[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]80[/TD]
[TD]Jacob[/TD]
[TD]Battaglia[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Kingston[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]196[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]81[/TD]
[TD]Matvei[/TD]
[TD]Korotky[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]SKA St Pete[/TD]
[TD]VHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]82[/TD]
[TD]Ilya[/TD]
[TD]Nabokov[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]Magnitogorsk[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]179[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]83[/TD]
[TD]Carson[/TD]
[TD]Wetsch[/TD]
[TD]R Fwd[/TD]
[TD]Calgary[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]84[/TD]
[TD]Veeti[/TD]
[TD]Vaisanen[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]Kookoo[/TD]
[TD]Fin Jr[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]174[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]85[/TD]
[TD]Simon[/TD]
[TD]Zether[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Rogle[/TD]
[TD]SEL[/TD]
[TD]6'2[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]86[/TD]
[TD]Raul[/TD]
[TD]Boilard[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Baie-Comeau[/TD]
[TD]QMJHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]87[/TD]
[TD]Jakub[/TD]
[TD]Fibigr[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Mississauga[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]170[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]88[/TD]
[TD]Eriks[/TD]
[TD]Matieko[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]St John[/TD]
[TD]QMJHL[/TD]
[TD]6'4[/TD]
[TD]201[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]89[/TD]
[TD]Timur[/TD]
[TD]Kol[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]Omsk Jr[/TD]
[TD]VHL[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]198[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]Heikki[/TD]
[TD]Rouhonen[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Kieko Espoo[/TD]
[TD]U20Elite[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]205[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]91[/TD]
[TD]Melvin[/TD]
[TD]Fernstrom[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]Orebro[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[TD]6'1[/TD]
[TD]185[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]92[/TD]
[TD]Herman[/TD]
[TD]Traff[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]HV71[/TD]
[TD]J20[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]94[/TD]
[TD]Jack[/TD]
[TD]Berglund[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Farjestads[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]209[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]95[/TD]
[TD]Clarke[/TD]
[TD]Caswell[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Swift Current[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]5'11[/TD]
[TD]176[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]96[/TD]
[TD]Fyodor[/TD]
[TD]Avramov[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]Stupino[/TD]
[TD]VHL[/TD]
[TD]6'3[/TD]
[TD]190[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]97[/TD]
[TD]Colin[/TD]
[TD]Ralph[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Shattuck[/TD]
[TD]USHS[/TD]
[TD]6'4[/TD]
[TD]227[/TD]
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I saw a report awhile ago that said he was high on Montreal's list and they were contemplating taking him at 5.
Thank you for your effort. This is great. I might prefer Sennecke to Helenius at this point. Flyers like risers and the kid can fly. We'll see on Friday!
 
I am almost always the one talking about how individual prospects in general are overrated, but to me this is exactly what you can’t do if you want to be successful long term in a hard cap league. You don’t make A/B choices like this in a vacuum. One of those players is heading into his D+6.

In the broad spectrum of outcomes, you get a better career from Zegras the majority of the time. But not all of that minority is particularly close. Making the Catton pick is an attempt to buy that specific star equity. And it’s not just Catton outcomes that you’re getting. You’re buying 3 years of an ELC, then some RFA control, and the players/assets the differences in cap hit buys you in the next X years.
Well, I am going to disagree. The panthers and golden Knights likeky do too. The Panthers only drafted like 5 of the guys on their roster that has been to back-2-back cup finals, got a cup win in the most recent of the 2, and they almost definitely run it back for 3rd attempt next season. That doesn't quantify as success? The Knights best players were all aquired in trades or Free Agency. Mark Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, and now Hertl.

It doesn't matter how well you scout, there is an element of luck and guess work to drafting and development. You can never assume a pick will reach there ceiling. Does every Concensus talent become star? No. They flop all the time. Can I assume a guy who has scored 60+ multiple times in the NHL under the age of 25 is capable of doing it again? Yes. He has proven he can. Can I assume a kid who has never played an NHL game will be just as good? No. I can hope he might.

ELCs are cool, the salary cap is important to monitor, but adding a good young proven player to your core is cooler. A question mark vs a proven valuable asset. I can taken the proven valuable asset to the bank, but I will really value the ELC more if it turns out the answer to the question mark is not as good as the answer I wanted
 
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Well, I am going to disagree. The panthers and golden Knights likeky do too. The Panthers only drafted like 5 of the guys on their roster that has been to back-2-back cup finals, got a cup win in the most recent of the 2, and they almost definitely run it back for 3rd attempt next season. That doesn't quantify as success? The Knights best players were all aquired in trades or Free Agency. Mark Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, and now Hertl.

It doesn't matter how well you scout, there is an element of luck and guess work to drafting and development. You can never assume a pick will reach there ceiling. Does every Concensus talent become star? No. They flop all the time. Can I assume a guy who has scored 60+ multiple times in the NHL under the age of 25 is capable of doing it again? Yes. He has proven he can. Can I assume a kid who has never played an NHL game will be just as good? No. I can hope he might.

ELCs are cool, the salary cap is important to monitor, but adding good young proven players to your core cooler.

The Golden Knights were launched into the Finals and trying to contend immediately from that day forward. The Panthers traded what they thought were late 1sts when they were ready to contend and had the core already in place and in NHL prime age. How is either of those situations comparable to the June ‘24 Flyers trading away a known 12OA? How is Zegras remotely comparable to Mark Stone or Jack Eichel? If you’re trading for a Pettersson who hit RFA, of course you move 12.

Again, what I’m trying to tell you is that I am one of the last people you have to sell on the risk of prospects. Go look at any thread about prospects and you’re more likely than not to find me saying people are getting carried away. I’m unwilling to call anyone short of a Michkov level overwhelmingly likely to be an average NHL player on draft day. If I’m telling you I think you’re taking it too far, you’re not in left field. You’re outside of the stadium having a nice coffee.

And while we’re at it, no you cannot assume a 60 Point player can do it again. It’s much, much more likely. Very different thing.
 
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The Golden Knights were launched into the Finals and trying to contend immediately from that day forward. The Panthers traded what they thought were late 1sts when they were ready to contend and had the core already in place and in NHL prime age. How is either of those situations comparable to the June ‘24 Flyers trading away a known 12OA?

Again, what I’m trying to tell you is that I am one of the last people you have to sell on the risk of prospects. Go look at any thread about prospects and you’re more likely than not to find me saying people are getting carried away. I’m unwilling to call anyone short of a Michkov level overwhelmingly likely to be an average NHL player on draft day. If I’m telling you I think you’re taking it too far, you’re not in left field. You’re outside of the stadium having a nice coffee.

And while we’re at it, no you cannot assume a 60 Point player can do it again. It’s much, much more likely. Very different thing.
It's the same argument people make about teams like the Lightening. They say guys like Sergachev were acquired via trade. Sure, but they traded a former top pick of their to get him. How did the Panthers get Tkachuk? By trading former #3 overall Huberdeau. Even if you want the Flyers to trade their way into contention, you still need a base of assets that we don't have to do that.
 
Well, I am going to disagree. The panthers and golden Knights likeky do too. The Panthers only drafted like 5 of the guys on their roster that has been to back-2-back cup finals, got a cup win in the most recent of the 2, and they almost definitely run it back for 3rd attempt next season. That doesn't quantify as success? The Knights best players were all aquired in trades or Free Agency. Mark Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, and now Hertl.

It doesn't matter how well you scout, there is an element of luck and guess work to drafting and development. You can never assume a pick will reach there ceiling. Does every Concensus talent become star? No. They flop all the time. Can I assume a guy who has scored 60+ multiple times in the NHL under the age of 25 is capable of doing it again? Yes. He has proven he can. Can I assume a kid who has never played an NHL game will be just as good? No. I can hope he might.

ELCs are cool, the salary cap is important to monitor, but adding a good young proven player to your core is cooler. A question mark vs a proven valuable asset. I can taken the proven valuable asset to the bank, but I will really value the ELC more if it turns out the answer to the question mark is not as good as the answer I wanted
However, when you do look at the Panthers... their success was in fact built around picking very, very highly in the draft repeatedly over a short window... like virtually every cup-winner in the last ~17 years has done sans Vegas.

2011 3rd overall: Huberdeau - moved in package for Tkachuk
2013 2nd overall: Barkov
2014 1st overall: Ekblad

Without picking so highly in a short time period? They never win.
 
That NRD guy on Twitter thinks the Sharks jumped us to get Eiserman. I would've been fine with Eiserman but frankly a winger would need to be far and away the best player left at our spot for me to take him.
 
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Say what you will about Charlie O, but I think he's probably not wrong to suggest SJ is more likely in the market for defense here, since they got Smith last year and Celebrini on the way, and their blue line is only that color due to the 2000 Flushes they have working overtime.
 
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