Official 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[PDX Flyer]

As I recall… Kicked out of a game for a racial slur, and posted a pic on social media of a friend who made a swastika out of blocks. The special needs bully was a kid who dropped last yr I think

Copy thanks.

The special needs part was Mitchell Miller a few years ago. He was sociopathic and convicted of assault. Connelly has had his share of off-ice stuff. There was an Athletic article that wasn't totally cut and dry discussing whether he was bullied himself or a bully when he was younger. A teammate did make a Swastika out of building blocks, and he posted it on Snapchat or something. That was the major stink. He did do counseling and volunteer work with a local rabbi, if you're looking for signs of contrition and maturity.

I have no idea how to evaluate his character. No one does here. But......his tape is straight up elite skill.



That's where I'd push back. He looks like a safe 3C. Maybe his burst improves, his skills play up, the production at his age clearly is good.

Thank you ...... will be interesting to see where he goes. Guess it will depend on his interviews/dinners

 

[Magua]

Didn't someone post an analysis of USHL players and their lack of success in the first round outside a handful of guys from the USNDTP or something like that?

It doesn't feel accurate to me. Most of the elite guys go to the NTDP (I actually laughed at a "handful"; it's a truckload), so it's a small sample of players who play in the USHL and go 1st round. The hit rate actually feels incredibly high to me.

Over the last decade every name: Nick Schmaltz, Kyle Connor, Brock Boeser, Riley Tufte, Casey Mittelstadt, Ryan Johnson, (Shane Pinto and Bobby Brink if we want to stretch it a couple picks), Brendan Brisson, Cole Sillinger, Matt Coronato, Mackie Samoskevich. Quite a few played on the same Chicago powerhouse. Tufte and Mittelstadt played majority high school, and Tufte's production was awful (ditto Johnson).

Those are just 1st rounders. If you are arguably the best player in the USHL, without a physical weakness (if not overwhelming strengths), you're the exception if you don't turn into a very good NHL player.

 

[Magua]

Guess it will depend on his [...] dinners

No one can evaluate a player over dinner like Brent Flahr. Exactly how many dinners will they need? They need to be certain.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

It doesn't feel accurate to me. Most of the elite guys go to the NTDP (I actually laughed at a "handful"; it's a truckload), so it's a small sample of players who play in the USHL and go 1st round. The hit rate actually feels incredibly high to me.

Over the last decade every name: Nick Schmaltz, Kyle Connor, Brock Boeser, Riley Tufte, Casey Mittelstadt, Ryan Johnson, (Shane Pinto and Bobby Brink if we want to stretch it a couple picks), Brendan Brisson, Cole Sillinger, Matt Coronato, Mackie Samoskevich. Quite a few played on the same Chicago powerhouse. Tufte and Mittelstadt played majority high school, and Tufte's production was awful (ditto Johnson).

Those are just 1st rounders. If you are arguably the best player in the USHL, without a physical weakness (if not overwhelming strengths), you're the exception if you don't turn into a very good NHL player.

Maybe it was outside of the USNTDP or something like that. I can't remember who posted it and if it was something they did or they were sharing an article/tweets or something. Perhaps I am insane but I remember the idea being don't draft USHL players high.

 

[Magua]

Maybe it was outside of the USNTDP or something like that.

Uh, I already named every player taken outside the USNTDP since 2013.

 

[pit]

McKenzie’s rankings are the best summation of what the league thinks, but we still have to remember that consensus doesn’t slot players. The draft is a measure of which bet a team is highest on given the available board. It doesn’t matter if 95% teams have Silayev at 4. What determines where he goes is a tiny handful of teams’ opinions.

With that being said, Demidov at 2 is interesting because Michkov was down at 5th last year. I can’t help but find that meaningful.

Nope, no way, never. Consensus = draft order and thus Catton is ours at 12.

So it is writ, so let it be done!

(a boy can dream)

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Uh, I already named every player taken outside the USNTDP since 2013.

I'll try to find the post I was thinking of.

 

[BernieParent]

Sorry if this was previously posted, but The Hockey News (for what it is worth) has the Flyers taking Buium at 12 and Elick at 32.

 

[renberg]

Sorry if this was previously posted, but The Hockey News (for what it is worth) has the Flyers taking Buium at 12 and Elick at 32.

I think that this is why the days leading up to the draft are called the “Silly Season”. If Buium is there at 12 the Flyers just grab him, run and laugh. IMO, next to Levshunov, he’s the best defenseman in the crop. Great IQ; skills, quicks and comes up large on big stages.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[Wangstar]

If Ottawa offered an early 2nd, I would given em Laughton. The only ranger I would take for Farabee is Othman. Just go BPA, for the whole draft. If a sexy D man is on the board, take ‘em. We will find Centers either 24, or the sexier 25 draft.

 

[mwit20]

Charlie released a mock this morning and has the flyers taking Catton at 12.

“Do I think the Flyers would take Catton if he’s there? Yes, I do, and I think it’s even plausible that he could be a target in a trade-up scenario.”

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Charlie released a mock this morning and has the flyers taking Catton at 12.

“Do I think the Flyers would take Catton if he’s there? Yes, I do, and I think it’s even plausible that he could be a target in a trade-up scenario.”

I just f***ing shredded my jorts.

What a delightful little treat you’ve posted.

 

[ellja3]

Ēriks Mateiko is ranked 6th among all LWs and will probably be a 2nd rounder. Do we have a 2nd round pick!? /checks notes/ Yes, we do!

(I kid, I kid, Ābols is enough for a while)

 

[FLYguy3911]

Inb4 he goes 11th.

 

[BiggE]

I would have definitely gone with Renberg and Tocchet on my list. Also would strongly consider 1972’s Jimmy Watson for my best 2nd rounder

 

[Appleyard]

https://allphly.com/alex-appleyards-preferred-options-for-the-flyers-in-round-2/

A good "value for money" piece if I dont say so myself.

After 5000+ words on six potential "sleeper" picks the other day (Alex Appleyard's sleepers in the 2024 NHL Draft - PHLY Sports)

Today comes just over 6000 words on 10x players who could be taken by the Flyers in the 2nd round.

Basically medium depth scouting reports on each with context.

 

[sa cyred]

Inb4 he goes 11th.

Inb4 he is there at 12, they take the "big tall guy", and is taken at 13

 

[FLYguy3911]

 

[Redpath]

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

That would be a f***ing mistake.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

If that's who they want, we need to give them a f***ing call.

 

[ponder719]

If that's who they want, we need to give them a f***ing call.

That very much sounds like they've decided they want to move down, and are targeting someone available at, oh, let's just say Konecny +12, to pick a random number.

 

[Prongo]

If they want him at 3 I believe they probably have a pretty good read that he is much higher on boards than we believe.

Trading from 3 to #12 is a huge drop, and he will most likely not be there.

Although I’ve seen teams do some stupid shit before.

 

[Random Forest]

Silayev falling scares me a bit. I can see a scenario where he’s there and they think “well how can we pass on him?”

I have no idea how to feel about him.