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Not gonna lie, I'm not doing well lately. I think I typed something similar recently and deleted it, today I did not. This has potential to go long

The house hunt is killing me. It's been just under a full year of searching, seen 50 properties now. Most recently a place in a lovely neighborhood, with a huge yard and inground pool, backyard access to a bike path that is a 15 minute bike to my kids house which is on the other end of the path. It was a raised ranch though (which I dont care for) and in need of a full rehab (which I am game for!)...but ultimately we decided it was going to be too small for us at the price it would be had for. I find myself regretting it though, cuz I know we could easily afford it and despite the size...it could have worked.

Back home at my house, the mouse situation has broken my spirit, almost completely. Downstairs, my father just lives in filth and despite having a beautiful new kitchen and bathroom, he's destroying it little by little cuz he cant take care of it. The plan, once I move out of the upstairs apartment, is to rent my unit, but I'll be living an hour away. Pops is unable to handle cleaning his own counters, so him tending to the needs of a tenant is out of the question. The thought of being a long distance landlord is literally keeping me up at night. I want to sell, but I know my father doesnt. Even more, theres nowhere for him to go right now. I feel very stuck.

Work is miserable. Normally I have a few projects bumping along, maybe 1, 2 tops that demand my attention semi frequently. Right now I have 4 going all at the same time and each of them would be the single most time consuming projects I've ever had all on their own.

My daughter also has the flu, and has been home with me all week. It's great. I love having her here and I love being able to nurse her along back to her usual self. But a lot of you know that caring for a flu-ridden 11 year old is a tall task on it's own, and really demands my full time and attention. Even though she's on the mend, she had coughing fits last night that kept me up for hours. I can't sleep knowing she's struggling in the next room over.

I am trying to focus on the good. It just gets super difficult these days when the bullshit just creeps in deeper and deeper. It will get better, it has to. One little thing at a time I suppose!

Don't beat yourself up over any of this. It is a lot for one person to handle at the same time. Some days all you can manage is left foot, right foot, breathe & repeat and that is OK. You'll find this is a very good place to vent, people are incredibly supportive and helpful.

I hope your daughter will be well soon. Hard to believe she's 11 already!!!
 

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MATERIAL WORLD

It’s Just a Water Bottle​

No one can truly explain the Stanley cup.
By Amanda Mull
A pink Stanley cup

Kayana Szymczak / The New York Times / Redux
JANUARY 19, 2024, 9:51 AM ET

The world can be a baffling place. That’s true in many important senses, but also in plenty of unimportant ones, and the urge to make order and meaning doesn’t necessarily select for relevance. That’s why, for the past two weeks, a huge chunk of the internet’s attention has been focused on one baffling phenomenon in particular: What, exactly, is a Stanley cup, and why are suburbanites willing to scuffle over it in their most sacred space (their local Target)?

Let’s recap. As the new year began, Stanley, a century-old company that for much of its history made reinforced lunch boxes and drinking vessels for outdoorsmen and blue-collar workers, launched three pink, limited-edition Valentine’s Day versions of its jumbo-size Quencher cups, all in different shades of pink and only available at Target. The third of these cups, which came out a few days after the first two, was the grandaddy of them all—a new addition to the brand’s ongoing partnership with Starbucks, glazed in a shimmer finish instead of Stanley’s standard matte. All three flew off the shelves. Fans lined up in parking lots in the predawn hours to increase their chances of snagging one. In at least one instance captured in a now-viral video, an argument erupted over who was cutting whom in line, fingers were pointed, and a store manager was summoned to referee. A few videos of rushing shoppers and tepid interpersonal conflicts, plus one that appears to show store patrons trying to tackle a man who had grabbed a box full of tumblers and made a run for it, did the rounds on TikTok before jumping to local news broadcasts and the generalized zeitgeist.

As the internet watched this extraordinarily mild suburban chaos unfold, people understandably had some questions. Where did this fervor come from? Why does it revolve around these insulated cups in particular? How did Stanley, which has seen its annual revenue increase from $73 million in 2019 to a projected $750 million in 2023, become so popular, so quickly? Lots of very smart people have tried to reverse engineer an explanation to the Stanley mystery—why this cup, right now, out of all the zillions of insulated drinking vessels available to American shoppers? But the actual story here is more about the nature of trends themselves than about a cup. There is no real reason any of this happened, or at least no reason that will feel satisfying to you. Sometimes a cup is just a cup in the right place at the right time.

The legend of the Stanley cup’s meteoric rise starts out normally enough. According to a 2022 story in The New York Times about its popularity, the women who run the mom-focused product-recommendation blog The Buy Guide had begun singing the cup’s praises five years prior. The Stanley Quencher has some design features that undoubtedly ingratiated it to early adopters: Its handle makes the high-capacity vessel easier to maneuver for people with small hands. The tapered shape helps it fit in a car’s cupholder. The straw top (as opposed to a screw-on lid) enables you to take a sip with only one free hand and without pouring your beverage down your chin. None of these features was unique to Stanley, but the combination of all three in a single product was less common at the time than it is now, in a world of Stanley imitators.

The blog’s audience, which includes lots of Mormon moms—a group with outsize influence in how lifestyle trends form online—snapped up the cups. But Stanley had stopped marketing the product line, and pretty soon, they were no longer as readily available. The Buy Guide lobbied Stanley to reconsider, and in 2019, the company took an interest in courting what was, for them, a new market: young women. It has since plowed resources back into its line of tumblers, churning out versions of the cups in traditionally feminine colors and prints and linking itself to other businesses with dedicated, largely female fan bases. In addition to the Starbucks cups, Stanley has also released a collaboration with the country-music star Lainey Wilson, and it makes some products exclusively for Target.

Stories like this are how tons of things become moderately popular online. Products hop from person to person via word of mouth, and sometimes the velocity of that spread spikes when the products are picked up by influencers or reviewers who earn a fee when shoppers buy through their links. This is one of the main ways that people without massive technical expertise make money online—finding products that are pretty good or that other people seem to like and taking a commission for encouraging new people to buy them. TikTok has accelerated this process at an industrial scale, and it certainly accelerated the Stanley cup’s rise once the company was convinced that women constituted a viable market. The cup’s massive popularity on the platform has helped expand its customer base far beyond moms—according to the journalist and consumer-trends analyst Casey Lewis, Stanley cups were among the most popular gifts for young people on the app this holiday season.

But all of that is the how. It doesn’t cover the why. That part I can’t explain, and I don’t think anybody really can. Lots of people have given it the old college try—maybe the cups are uniquely beautiful or particularly well suited to the needs of certain types of TikTok influencers. These theories are all plausible enough explanations for some portion of the cup’s appeal, and that’s what trend stories require: divining some kind of recognizable signal in the noise of human behavior. Sometimes, though, we—people who write trend stories—end up making ourselves see signals where there’s not really much of anything. Why one thing happens and not something else doesn’t always have some kind of rational explanation. Some things don’t contain within them any kernel of truth about humanity or our current moment.

The Stanley thing, to me, seems largely stochastic in its specificity, but also just mind-numbingly normal in more general terms. High-end water bottles have been trendy status symbols for a long time. Before single-use plastics became outré, expensive bottled-water brands were wielded in similar ways, beginning with the Evian craze of the 1990s. When the Stanley caught fire, the market was already full of similarly priced, similarly pastel, similarly sized, similarly well-insulated drinking vessels from similarly viral brands, including Hydro Flask (remember the VSCO Girl?) and Yeti. Stanley’s hype has reached a cultural escape velocity that other brands’ water bottles haven’t quite achieved, but they’re all about the same, which is to say that they’re all perfectly fine. I know this because I own and regularly use a Stanley cup, a Yeti, and a Hydro Flask. Why did I buy the Stanley when I already owned the other two? I don’t know. People seemed to like theirs. I was bored and my credit-card information is saved in my phone. This is how a huge proportion of online-shopping purchases, especially of viral products, get made. Sometimes you just see something so many times that you give in.

As for the lines outside the Target stores: If you go back and look at the videos again, you might notice that they’re mostly just the same few clips in which not much is actually happening—or, at least, not much that doesn’t happen regularly when too many people gather for a chance to buy what they all know will be too few of the thing they all want. This tension has been ratcheted up in recent years by the growing presence of resellers (which some of the people behaving badly in the Stanley videos almost certainly are), who buy up popular products before regular people can get their hands on them, in order to flip them online for a profit. The Starbucks Stanley cups, which retail for about $50, currently go for anywhere from $200 to $300 on eBay. Alongside the rise of resellers, the expansion of limited-edition releases and the dreaded collab also have helped push regular people’s behavior further toward the extremes.

But let’s be clear: Regular people have been acting up in parking lots for a long time. When I worked at a big-box store in the 2000s, the local police would dispatch a few officers every year to keep an eye on our Black Friday line to make sure no fights broke out. In advance of the PlayStation 3’s debut, we had to bring in a porta potty because campers began to assemble outside a week before it went on sale. Loads of people out there are obsessed with things you’ve never even heard of, waiting in lines for stores to open so they can buy Squishmallows or Rae Dunn pottery or limited-edition sneakers or new Lego sets.

Trying to parse why strangers ascribe such meaning to an object or product that is meaningless to you—or why they’re so set on one thing and not another, similar thing—is usually a fool’s errand. Humans by nature turn objects into meaning, and consumerism is the process by which that impulse is commodified by middlemen looking to ascribe that meaning to particular things in order to sell your identity or values or group affinity or sense of community back to you. The product itself, as long as it’s good enough, can be largely incidental to this process. If you look at all of this and see an alienated population and degraded culture, well, I don’t disagree with you. But none of that is unique to the Stanley cup. Precious little is.

Amanda Mull is a staff writer at The Atlantic.
 

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Gave notice to apartment management today. Boy did that feel good.

I had a follow up to my SI joint injection and I've got a second scheduled for 3/8 and hopefully the doctor opens a few slots in February so I can have it done sooner. To say I am thrilled is an understatement.
 

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I've got a 30 oz Stanley for my water. I paid only 35 for it. and my mom has a 20 oz Yeti cup for her tea. Also 35. The Yeti has a cover to drink and it won't spill. The Stanley 20 oz tea/coffee ones don't have a full cover.

Both are great. Don't understand why people are going nuts over certain colors or running into stores fighting people for them.
 
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I've got a 30 oz Stanley for my water. I paid only 35 for it. and my mom has a 20 oz Yeti cup for her tea. Also 35. The Yeti has a cover to drink and it won't spill. The Stanley ones don't have a full cover.

Both are great. Don't understand why people are going nuts over certain colors or running into stores fighting people for them.
Yeti gang. I think it was 35 bucks a couple christmases ago. Some corporate discount and a name engraving on the house. Can’t beat that

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I actually love that style! Great condition too. They last very long.
I think it's a 20oz. Perfect for me. I'll fill it with water a few times a day. Then add in a caffeine packet with lunch. Better than chugging soda and coffee all day I suppose.
 
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I just find women to be the much, much, MUCH better gender to interact with on a general level lol

World would be a much better place if ran completely by the fairer sex

That's my line, almost word for word.

Imho, most men are boys. I'll leave it at that.


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It's also why police don't take it as seriously as they used to. Why investigate when you know nobody's going to prosecute?

Why is that the case?

Stealing is stealing and unless you're Jean Valjean desperate for a crust of bread, should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Stealing of this kind is especially devious and heartless, even malicious. Which makes it the more galling.
 
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Yeti gang. I think it was 35 bucks a couple christmases ago. Some corporate discount and a name engraving on the house. Can’t beat that

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My sister has a Yeti and loves it. I use a starbucks cup for water and for hot beverages when I am on the go, I use a disposable cup.

If I was still in an office, I would have gotten a Yetti for my tea.
 
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Made it in to work today, despite my apartment parking lot still being packed with snow and ice. The side road to the office and our office parking lot were the same way. Pleased with how my car handled it, this is the first time I've had it in that kind of environment.

The test will be getting back home and up the hill in the apartment complex. Freezing rain is supposed to start around noon, I'm planning to leave early.

Good luck!
 

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Why is that the case?

Stealing is stealing and unless you're Jean Valjean desperate for a crust of bread, should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Stealing of this kind is especially devious and heartless, even malicious. Which makes it the more galling.

It would appear some DAs aren't concerned with prosecuting crime, they seem to have other agendas. That's as far as I'm going in this non-political thread.
 
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You need a break...and sleep.

How old is your Dad? Is he mentally OK?

Call in someone to get rid of the mice.

Sending a hug. Good Luck!

I don't mean to be presumptuous or uncaring, but surely you can afford an exterminator or other mice removal service?

At some point perhaps I'll share my experience house-sitting for a gentle hippie in rural Michigan. No blinds. No curtains. No doors. No dryer. Dead of winter, fearful of losing power and heat.

And plenty of unwanted guests.

Lovely.

In the event, sending the good thought for deliverance and peace of mind. Take care.
 

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Follow up knee replacement appointment today.

PA was surprised...
Bending more than 90 straightening to 0

They originally said 3 months....been 6 weeks and got the ok to do whatever I can tolerate.

Still working on strengthening and stabilizing, and calf needs to stretch more but going excellent.
 

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Follow up knee replacement appointment today.

PA was surprised...
Bending more than 90 straightening to 0

They originally said 3 months....been 6 weeks and got the ok to do whatever I can tolerate.

Still working on strengthening and stabilizing, and calf needs to stretch more but going excellent.
Hard work pays off.
 

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I don't mean to be presumptuous or uncaring, but surely you can afford an exterminator or other mice removal service?

At some point perhaps I'll share my experience house-sitting for a gentle hippie in rural Michigan. No blinds. No curtains. No doors. No dryer. Dead of winter, fearful of losing power and heat.

And plenty of unwanted guests.

Lovely.

In the event, sending the good thought for deliverance and peace of mind. Take care.
I think you meant to copy @TD Charlie
 
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