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Proposal: Off Season Trade Thread vol. III
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Dreaming if you think the Blues are going to move Schwartz...
Hitchcock loves both him and Tarasenko as the building blocks for offense moving forward
Hitchcock loves both him and Tarasenko as the building blocks for offense moving forward
Perhaps, or perhaps not.
Either way, it's why Murray will hopefully have multiple suitors interested in making a deal in June, so that if they don't offer a key piece like Schwartz, you can turn around and deal with a team that will. If the Blues are the only one at the table, they definitely won't have to give up a Schwartz.
PoutineSp00nZ
Electricity is really just organized lightning.
I kind of half agree. I wouldn't exactly call Martin a boring coach, but he certainly did expect his team to play a solid system. All that structure helps limited teams have success, but when his teams became more skilled he didn't give them the freedom to do their thing, he insisted on the structure.
That and his inability to make adjust in the playoffs.
The team being soft, and never having a goalie was the gm's fault not his.
Why would we want their crappy forwards who collapse in the playoffs and can't score?
This team needs defense, and they have two who are very good.
The loss of Spezza's production will easily be made up by an increase in Zibanejad, Turris, Ryan and Stone; without the horrible +-.
Like Jason Spezza at the age of 31 becoming a Hitchock type player who back checks hard?
FolignoQuantumLeap
Don't Hold The Door
cogliano, etem, 1st for spezza, 3rd
macarthur, turris, ryan
hoffman, zibanejad, etem
neil, smith, cogliano
greening, da costa, prince
macarthur, turris, ryan
hoffman, zibanejad, etem
neil, smith, cogliano
greening, da costa, prince
Book it.
Stone alone could easily get 20 more points next year. Probably more.
When was this? If you're talking about the 7 games he was out this season I think you need to learn a thing or two about sample sizes.
FolignoQuantumLeap
Don't Hold The Door
Lock out season? We did better with Karlsson on the shelf too. Hell, Tampa did better with Stamkos out.
We weren't better without Spezza. Look at those games against Carolina and the Isles down the stretch. We played a pair of AHL teams and barely managed to score a goal. It was pathetic.
We're probably better without a damaged Spezza and a guy like Da Costa in, but not a healthy or even 85% Spezza, who is still one of the elite offensive players in the league. His production isn't replaceable. Once Spezza was in form, he carried us down the stretch along with Hemsky flanking him. We could have one of the more dominant offensive lines in hockey but we're about to let that walk away and get scraps like Berglund in return.
I think we'll talk about this decision the way we talk about Chara/Redden, Havlat, Heatley/Hossa in a few years. This is the type of franchise defining move that we'll all fume at when other fans bring it up.
Powdered Toast Man
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I really don't think Stone being productive and the Senators having Spezza are mutually exclusive.
Those two games where they had 19029 chances to score, but couldn't because they kept passing back and forth to each other, mostly because Hemsky and Zibanejad had never played together? That shouldn't worry you.
Tragedy
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He won't be traded for scraps they very well could be in better shape and its better for Jason as well.
TheBradyBunch
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The Fuhr himself says no. Surely, you can see the existential paradox here.
Also without Karlsson, are we a better team with him out of the lineup as well?
Last years team wasn't good; we Leafed our way to victory most nights by relying on disgustingly good goaltending and couldn't buy a goal.
If his scoring rate didn't change he would have had 34 points over the entire season.
FolignoQuantumLeap
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Well, see I don't agree with that at all. Take a look at the history of star players getting moved and what they return. What makes it worse, by making a commitment to Spezza, we could have had Hemsky as well, who is better than anything that Spezza will return in a trade.
The only way I see us getting anything decent for Spez, is in the form of picks. We get a good prospect in the '14 or '15 draft who can help us in 4-5 years when the current core needs to be shipped out or replaced.
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