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Off Season Thread: Kings Roster Moves

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Why do the Kings need to make room for younger guys if those younger guys aren't even getting a sniff of the NHL at this point? I get Vey and McNabb. Both of whom presumably have a legit shot at the 23 man roster with McNabb having a spot to lose essentially. Neither are a replacement for the guys in the OP. But these other guys, I don't know them from a homeless person on the street. If they are pushing to take King, Nolan or Clifford's job, they can earn it in camp. Then if that were to happen, you get rid of the redundant player that performed the worst in the training camp.
 
Quattro said:
LMAO

I wonder if someone who had no idea who had just won the Cup read this thread could ever intuit the success level of this team. :laugh:
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Two Stanley Cups in three years? More like two number one picks in three years. Lolololoiler fans are probably more level headed.
 
King and Clifford were regulars in the lineup throughout the playoffs. Nolan was a healthy scratch for not doing enough. If any one of them were to be moved, clearly Nolan is going to be the leading candidate to go. Of those three, he contributed the least to the team.
 
Quattro said:
why are we getting rid of any of them?
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Because we should always be trying to improve the team. We need more production from the bottom six, period. Personally I'd move Clifford, Nolan, and Lewis, but Lewis is going nowhere
 
I personally think that Clifford is the odd man out and they should sell high after his strong Finals appearance. Nolan is the ideal spare forward and cheap, he certainly needs to play smarter, but he knows what he is and is locked as a character 4th liner that actually can fight. Clifford is concussion prone, a lousy fighter, does not have top 6 upside and is replaceable.
 
Dwight King isn't soft. He doesn't run around hitting people, but he parks his ass in front of the net and takes a beating. He's not going to score a lot of deflection goals like Carter does when he gets in front, but he sure as hell is big enough to screen and distract the goalie.
 
Had we lost in the first round, I'd probably be saying move several of them.

But we won the Cup. Players good enough to play a regular shift on a Stanley Cup team should not be traded in haste.

Let them all compete in training camp.
 
HeadInjury said:
Had we lost in the first round, I'd probably be saying move several of them.

But we won the Cup. Players good enough to play a regular shift on a Stanley Cup team should not be traded in haste.

Let them all compete in training camp.
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That's one way of looking at it. The other is that teams like the Ducks and Hawks are looking to fill that major second line center hole with the likes of Kessler and Spezza, thus leveling out any top six advantage we might have had. We need more from the bottom six, continuing to ice the likes of Clifford and Lewis won't get it done.
 
Scottkmlps said:
Like gone from the CBA?
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No, there are still ordinary buyouts, compliance buyouts end this offseason.

Ordinary buyouts:

When a player is bought out, the team still takes a cap hit for the player over a period of twice the remaining length of the contract. The amount of the cap hit (by year) is determined as follows:
Take the actual salary due for each remaining year
Take the Averaged Player Salary (cap hit) for the current contract
Calculate the buyout amount (as described above)
Spread the buy-out amount evenly over twice the remaining years of the contract
Take the number in No. 1 and subtract the number in No. 4. This is the "buyout savings."
Take the cap hit from No. 2 and subtract the buyout savings from No. 5.
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King fits his role well, him and Williams were so good along the boards and on the forecheck. For the first time in years the Kings have a really good third line, I would not mess with it at this point.

As far as Clifford vs. Nolan, well it may come down the finances, for this year I'd probably rather roll with Clifford, but if Nolan can play close to that level and save the Kings 500k maybe that's the way they go.
 
ScoreZeGoals said:
That's one way of looking at it. The other is that teams like the Ducks and Hawks are looking to fill that major second line center hole with the likes of Kessler and Spezza, thus leveling out any top six advantage we might have had. We need more from the bottom six, continuing to ice the likes of Clifford and Lewis won't get it done.
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Yes, would be nice to see more from the bottom 6. I thought it was a little telling
and disturbing, actually, when Colin Fraser said recently "if you try to be creative
in my role, you get benched" or something like that. Something to the effect if you
are a botton 6 Darryl Sutter player, you just do your role and not create. What did he say, exactly?

It was nice to see that the bottom 6 was doing more, with Richards on line 4 and Williams on line 3. This made both of those lines have some offense and was helpful.
The way I see it, this ONLY happened, as Gaborik and Pearson became top 6
players and forced the Kings to have something in the bottom 6 to give them
some scoring threat from each line! AND??? They were the top scoring playoff team!
Hope this continues forward.

I think there are some bottom 6 types in Manch that will help soon. Shore and Andreoff. I was at the pre-season game in Denver and Shore
was the best player on the ice for the Kings that night. He was awesome and created chances several times and is going to be a good one.
It is important that you have players that can create offensive chances on each line..whether or not Darryl wants that.
 
Buddy The Elf said:
Why do the Kings need to make room for younger guys if those younger guys aren't even getting a sniff of the NHL at this point? I get Vey and McNabb. Both of whom presumably have a legit shot at the 23 man roster with McNabb having a spot to lose essentially. Neither are a replacement for the guys in the OP. But these other guys, I don't know them from a homeless person on the street. If they are pushing to take King, Nolan or Clifford's job, they can earn it in camp. Then if that were to happen, you get rid of the redundant player that performed the worst in the training camp.
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You sir get it 100%. The young guys need to EARN the spot not have a proven player moved to get the spot. If any of the youngsters in Manchester are good enough they will earn a spot. I 100% trust in Dean and Co.
 
Agreed 100% PJB.

I said it before the year the only way the Kings could beat Chicago was to add an elite goal-scoring winger and have someone like Brown or Williams be able to contribute significant offense from the third line. The Kings were never going to beat Chicago with a King-Stoll-Lewis third line and Clifford-Fraser-Nolan 4th line.

They not only got that player in Gaborik but Pearson also established himself as a 2nd line LW and that enabled the Kings to free Jeff Carter up to play C between the two young players, move Williams to 3rd line and Richards to 4th line, giving the Kings four lines that were a threat to score.

Just think about this and just how much better this team was from last year. In the 2013 playoffs the Kings had 0 even strength goals in 18 games from bottom six players, in this years playoffs the Kings had 14 ES goals from bottom six players in 26 games. That is an absolutely amazing turnaround and it's exactly why I laugh when homers try and say the 2013 team would have won a SC had they been healthier or gotten a few bounces, the 2013 team was heavily flawed.
 
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