Off Season Thread: Kings Roster Moves

[HYORI 1963]

The interesting thing is, with one move, Lombardi can make things a lot easier for himself, and probably re-sign everyone. And that's if we traded Richards for picks.

A tough decision, for sure.

 

[damacles1156]

It depends on how much the cap goes up next year.

 

[gonnaneedsomewine]

I like the Cracknell signing

 

[tsanuri]

It depends on how much the cap goes up next year.

If the league grows at 7% and they have some of the TV money somewhere between 100-150M more to add. We would be looking at 76.24M next year with the 150M added. or 75.24M if they had 100M. That also assumes they use the 5% escalator. And consider that based off the last full year we went from 3.3B to 3.625B a growth of 9.8%. And the league has averaged 7% going back to 2005-06. So that is a safe number really.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Jesus people are still talking about buying out or trading Richards!?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Jesus people are still talking about buying out or trading Richards!?

And it's only July 2. We're in for a loooong summer.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Jesus people are still talking about buying out or trading Richards!?

This has nothing to do with Richards and everything to do with math. Go look at next summers UFA's and RFA's, some moves are going to need to be made.

With that said, assuming Richards might be gone if he has another down season isn't some crazy idea

 

[Reclamation Project]

I hope he rebounds so ****ing hard.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

I hope he rebounds so ****ing hard.

As do I, but then I think Stoll is gone

 

[Reclamation Project]

As do I, but then I think Stoll is gone

I'd say 55 points would be a real good year for Richards. If he's consistent I'll be a really happy fan.

 

[LAKings88]

Regehr and Stoll will likely be gone after next season opening up some money.

Williams will be an interesting decision.

 

[Reclamation Project]

I wouldn't be shocked if Williams wasn't re-signed.

 

[LAKings88]

I wouldn't be shocked if Williams wasn't re-signed.

The 2015-16 team could look a lot different.

 

[KopitarFAN]

The 2015-16 team could look a lot different.

In all likelihood, the lower number of returning players in 2015-16 is about 17. Along with the 11 presently under contract for that season, I assume King will sign a multi-year (probably 2) deal, and Toffoli, Pearson, Jones, Muzzin and Clifford (though he would probably be most in-question) will be RFAs, and presumably retained.

 

[AKAY47]

I know it's a year away from now, but unless Stoll takes major pay cut, I don't see him staying. One name to keep an eye out on to replace him (if we don't do it internally) is Mike Fisher. He'll probably get a huge contract but I'd love to see him center our 3rd line. So underrated.

 

[AKAY47]

Would you guys take a gamble on Ryan Malone, 1 year contract and maybe move on from Dwight King?

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Would you guys take a gamble on Ryan Malone, 1 year contract and maybe move on from Dwight King?

Not a chance, I don't think you will see Malone in the NHL again.

As far as next off-season, chances are Regehr is gone, McNabb to take his spot, Stoll is gone, Andreoff, Lewis to take his spot, if Lewis takes his spot, Andreoff takes 4th line dutie's, and Williams can stay or go depending on what he wants and term etc. If he wants too much, I think we cut ties and wish him well, make space for the kids coming in, by that time, Prokhorin, Kitsyn, MIGHT be ready? If not,

You still have Gaborik, Kopitar, Brown, Pearson, Carter, Toffoli, though I think you will see Richards be given a chance to start there and slot Pearson with Stoll to start the season...

 

[reset]

stoll should and will be signed once his contract is up

 

[regulate]

I wouldn't be shocked if Williams wasn't re-signed.

I would be. You guys just don't get it. Stoll and Williams are the heart and soul playoff run players. They are both 32, not 35. DL and Sutter know that, as do all of their teammates. Amazing how quickly everyone wants to cast aside clutch players that are key playoff veterans. Unless they want outrageous money, my bet is both are re-signed to an extension before the season starts so it's not a distraction. Williams will get three years, Stoll one or two. Williams will get a raise, Stoll a cut, but not by much. Yep, the CAP is going to be an issue. There will be room to sign everyone. Over 23 million dollars will be free next year. Most of the key RFA's will get bridge contracts, not huge money. Williams, Stoll, Regher and Martinez are the UFA's that are key at this point.

 

[saintsnsoldiers]

I know it's a year away from now, but unless Stoll takes major pay cut, I don't see him staying. One name to keep an eye out on to replace him (if we don't do it internally) is Mike Fisher. He'll probably get a huge contract but I'd love to see him center our 3rd line. So underrated.

This is what I was thinking, Great 3rd line replacement if we can bring back Stolley

 

[regulate]

This has nothing to do with Richards and everything to do with math. Go look at next summers UFA's and RFA's, some moves are going to need to be made.

With that said, assuming Richards might be gone if he has another down season isn't some crazy idea

Please explain why we cannot sign all of the RFA (bridge contracts) and UFA's, minus Regher, with approximately 21-23 million dollars in cap space in 2015-2016. I don't get it.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Please explain why we cannot sign all of the RFA (bridge contracts) and UFA's, minus Regher, with approximately 21-23 million dollars in cap space in 2015-2016. I don't get it.

I doubt you are going to get Muzzin on a bridge contract, not with the way he is upward swinging,

Pearson, yes, Toffoli, maybe, depends on how he plays this year, Clifford probably, Nolan will be let go,

Then you have to sign Jones to a bridge, then Martinez who is UFA, THEN you have to replace Regehr, and make a decision on Shore, Weal, Bodnarchuk etc.

The YEAR AFTER, decisions Forbort, Kitsyn, then you have to sign Kopitar and Lewis,

Plus fill whatever holes there maybe.

Williams won the Conn Smythe and was a playoff hero, I get it, I do, but at what point do you say, thank you, and move on to break in a kid, because realistically, if it comes down to keeping Pearson or Williams, what do you think they should do? (Sub any one of Pearson, Prokhorin, Kitsyn, Toffoli) for Williams, what do you do?

 

[regulate]

I'd say 55 points would be a real good year for Richards. If he's consistent I'll be a really happy fan.

55 points would be great, but he has zero chance of being effective offensively if he is playing most of his time with Lewis and Clifford. You could put Crosby between those two and nullify most of his offense. We'll see where he ends up in the line-up.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Would you guys take a gamble on Ryan Malone, 1 year contract and maybe move on from Dwight King?

Absolutely no.

 

[regulate]

I doubt you are going to get Muzzin on a bridge contract, not with the way he is upward swinging,

Pearson, yes, Toffoli, maybe, depends on how he plays this year, Clifford probably, Nolan will be let go,

Then you have to sign Jones to a bridge, then Martinez who is UFA, THEN you have to replace Regehr, and make a decision on Shore, Weal, Bodnarchuk etc.

The YEAR AFTER, decisions Forbort, Kitsyn, then you have to sign Kopitar and Lewis,

Plus fill whatever holes there maybe.

Williams won the Conn Smythe and was a playoff hero, I get it, I do, but at what point do you say, thank you, and move on to break in a kid, because realistically, if it comes down to keeping Pearson or Williams, what do you think they should do? (Sub any one of Pearson, Prokhorin, Kitsyn, Toffoli) for Williams, what do you do?

We still have a lot of money to play with. Muzzin should get a pretty good deal (he benefits immensely if he stays paired with Doughty), but he is still an RFA, not a UFA, and that makes a huge difference. Muzzin is not a superstar, but he is improving nicely. The other RFA's will get 1-3 years bridge deals (not sure about Clifford and Nolan sticking around). You overestimate their ability to get big money as RFA's, short of them have fantastic breakout season with huge points. Williams is a no brainer. Can't see how any Kings fan is even having this discussion. It's painful.

And again, no one has explained why we can't fit under the CAP in 2015-2016 with 21-23 million dollars in space, especially with Regher likely moving on. Just looking for an explanation was to why the room is not there.

And Kitsyn? Couldn't even make the AHL last year let alone then NHL. Yikes. He will never see the light of day in this league.