Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Pt V: Spring(er) has Sprung: Jays sign OF George Springer (6y/$150m)

[habamillions]

I imagine the parameters of the deal are worked out, it just hasn’t been signed yet.

Perhaps, the theory of us working on a trade are true.

Likely waiting for brantley to do a physical. He is injured quite often

 

[KuleminFan41]

I think the 2015/16 teams get unfairly labelled as HR or bust, they were first in OBP in 2015 and 2nd in 2016.

Yes and no. Donaldson was by far the most well rounded hitter the Jays had but Bautista and Encarnacion weren't exactly trying to get singles and doubles to drive in a run lets be honest lol . Even Pillar was swinging out of his shoes at every plate appearance and Martin struck out a lot as well. Colabello was an anomaly that 2015 season hitting .321 BA and .367 OBP which was 4th on the team that year

 

[BAM]

I feel like I will never fully grasp baseball and how to evaluate prospects, but it's fun to follow you guys on here who put more effort into it.

Martin is a Bichette-level prospect imo, I expect him to maybe see some time with the big club in 2022 assuming he continues his growth.

 

[The Iceman]

looking at our updated lineup adding Molina for a season makes sense to me. Nothing like a good old veteran catcher IMO.
Like Jumbo with a little more game still to give

And hoping we don't move out Lourdes.
Got some Gold Glove votes and his OPS of .882
Springer was .899 in an outstanding season with the bat.

 

[BAM]

Damn you Hazel!

edit: For us casual fans, are we still very excited about Austin Martin?

Imagine if the Leafs still had a Marner level prospect in their system right now...that's Martin

 

[The Nemesis]

ok ok, now im gone for an hour

I hope that work you need to do can be done in the shower.

 

[trellaine201]

Some other team jumped in. Gonna force the Jays to add a year and $$$$$

 

[aingefan]

I imagine the parameters of the deal are worked out, it just hasn’t been signed yet.

Perhaps, the theory of us working on a trade are true.

Exactly what I was gonna post.

 

[Puckstuff]

Some other team jumped in. Gonna force the Jays to add a year and $$$$$

I like Brantley but regardless Brantley is a luxury left handed bat, not a need. He's not a big 1 for 1 upgrade on Gurriel-Springer-Hernandez if at all next year and even at 1B/DH is he that much of an upgrade on Tellez and Gurrerro Jr. that would warrant an extra 12-15 million? I'll take him depending on what else we do but that money will go to work either way with or without Brantley. 3 years is a lot as is imo.

 

[phillipmike]

ok ok last, one.

Looks like a trade is holding up the Brantley deal. They dont want to deal from a position of weakness (i.e. you now HAVE to move an OFer). The Brantley report probably hurt them in negotiations.

 

[BAM]

I like Brantley but regardless Brantley is a luxury left handed bat, not a need. He's not a big 1 for 1 upgrade on Gurriel-Springer-Hernandez if at all next year and even at 1B/DH is he that much of an upgrade on Tellez and Gurrerro Jr. that would warrant an extra 12-15 million? I'll take him depending on what else we do but that money will go to work either way with or without Brantley. 3 years is a lot as is imo.

Brantley is an all-star caliber player as the past 3 seasons have shown, he's clutch, a great veteran leader for the young core. If you have the chance of bringing him in at $12-$15 million you do it and fire Grichuk into the sun.

 

[Puckstuff]

ok ok last, one.

Looks like a trade is holding up the Brantley deal. They dont want to deal from a position of weakness (i.e. you now HAVE to move an OFer). The Brantley report probably hurt them in negotiations.

that starter better be legit if we move Teo or Gurriel Jr.

 

[Habsfan18]

 

[Maplebeasts]

Grichuk and prospects not named Martin, Pearson, or Groshans for Castillo please.

 

[Gargyn]

Grichuk and prospects not named Martin, Pearson, or Groshans for Castillo please.

So we want the best guys for our crap? Makes sense.

 

[BAM]

I wonder if the Reds would turn down Kirk, Martinez and Grichuk for Castillo + Moustakas.

 

[BAM]

So we want the best guys for our crap? Makes sense.

Kirk, SWR and Martinez are still 3 top 100 prospects in all of baseball, that's not crap LMFAO.

 

[Gargyn]

I wonder if the Reds would turn down Kirk, Martinez and Grichuk for Castillo + Moustakas.

Would take a lot more than that.

 

[81Leafs50]

1B Vladdy Jr
2B Biggio
SS Bichette
3B Shaw
RF Springer/Gurriel Jr
CF Grichuk
LF Brantley/Hernandez
C Kirk/Jansen

what spending money can do. WOW

 

[phillipmike]

What about Grichuk and Roark to Balitmore? They need bats and innings. Grichuk always kills them. I assume some prospects can go back too. Roark and Cobb are expiring, they can move them at the deadline for prospects.

Alright, now im gone.

 

[habamillions]

1B Vladdy Jr
2B Biggio
SS Bichette
3B Shaw
RF Springer/Gurriel Jr
CF Grichuk
LF Brantley/Hernandez
C Kirk/Jansen

what spending money can do. WOW

Shaw is a free agent. Jays let him go

 

[Maplebeasts]

So we want the best guys for our crap? Makes sense.

Jays have other top 100 prospects...

 

[BAM]

Would take a lot more than that.

Maybe SWR included but that's it. Snell didn't return much more than that and he's arguably better.

 

[thehockeysong]

I think the original rumors around Castillo were that the Yankees balked at including Torres

 

[The Iceman]

Grichuk and prospects not named Martin, Pearson, or Groshans for Castillo please.

Thinking it might be Sonny Gray and Suarez package if Cincy