Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Madness the 15th: How's that dream job now, Farrell?

[Bjindaho]

85% knuckleball, 14% fastball, 1% change up.




"discount" and "Boras" don't mix. Even so, he won't take anything less than 12m on a one year deal, and it's more likely that he's looking for a multi-year deal.

As someone who loves fangraphs, I need to post this...

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/daily-notes-in-which-r-a-dickey-throws-a-changeup/

They have GIFs of his "changeup" in normal speed, slower, and slowest. This might be more disgusting than his knuckleball.

 

[Starpainter]

"discount" and "Boras" don't mix. Even so, he won't take anything less than 12m on a one year deal, and it's more likely that he's looking for a multi-year deal.

Not sure how accurate this is but BR has Peter Greenberg, not Boras listed as his agent.

 

[Stats01]

I doubt AA is spending anymore money this year. Picking up Soriano would be nice, but is it that necessary? I think a #5 bat who can play either 1st or DH is higher priority for this team. Then again you can never have enough pitching depth.

The Jays don't deal with Boras clients so this isn't happening.

 

[Stats01]

Not sure how accurate this is but BR has Peter Greenberg, not Boras listed as his agent.

hmm. I've always thought Boras represented him

 

[SnipeCheeseAllDay]

Anyone have the youtube video to this?? I wanna post it on my facebook, and facebook does not post GIFs for some reason.

 

[Bjindaho]

Not sure how accurate this is but BR has Peter Greenberg, not Boras listed as his agent.

Switched agents Sep 30, 2010 to Boras

http://blog.prorumors.com/2010/09/rumors/rafael-soriano-hires-scott-boras-as-agent/

 

[Stats01]

Anyone have the youtube video to this?? I wanna post it on my facebook, and facebook does not post GIFs for some reason.

That's dirty movement, ****

 

[superhakan]

Anyone have the youtube video to this?? I wanna post it on my facebook, and facebook does not post GIFs for some reason.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22262345&c_id=mlb&topic_id=vtp_jiffy_lube

35 seconds

Edit: though the GIF looks much more impressive.

 

[The Nemesis]

As someone who loves fangraphs, I need to post this...

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/daily-notes-in-which-r-a-dickey-throws-a-changeup/

They have GIFs of his "changeup" in normal speed, slower, and slowest. This might be more disgusting than his knuckleball.

Filthy. And as someone on Frangraphs notes about it, look how casual Thole is in catching it. It's like "psh, I've caught a knuckleball, this is no big deal."

Anyone have the youtube video to this?? I wanna post it on my facebook, and facebook does not post GIFs for some reason.

MLB is very protective of its video rights. Anything with MLB content that ends up on youtube is very quickly scrubbed. It's also why it's so hard to find streams of Jays (or any baseball) games compared to something like NHL games*


*I've heard that "NHL games" were once a thing. However, I can find no corroborating evidence. Perhaps people were confusing them with the National Squabbling League, where in rich owners and players lock themselves in rooms and refuse to realize how much they're screwing themselves and the populous over by their actions?

 

[Leafsdude7]

Look at the difference in rotation between those balls. It's insane what Dickey and other pitchers can do to the ball.

 

[KuleminFan41]

I don't like Soccer jerseys, too much emphasis on the coporate sponsor.

I take it you haven't seen hockey jerseys in Europe then

 

[cyris]

Much more movement and is random movement. But Wakefield wasn't great, it's just Dickey throws it much harder (80-82 mph) than most knuckleballers. This is why he has been the most successful at it

Can throw 80 - 82 but he doesn't constantly. He generally throws it in the 70's.

 

[SnipeCheeseAllDay]

So is this how we're looking right now?:

R.A. Dickey RHP
J. Johnson RHP
Buerhle LHP
Morrow RHP
Romero LHP

-Happ, Drabek, Loup, Oliver, Lyon, Lincoln, Rogers, Delabar, Janssen, Santos, Cecil

Reyes SS
Cabrera LF
Bautista RF
Encarnacion 1B
Lawrie 3B
Rasmus CF
Lind DH
Arencibia C
Bonifacio/Izturis 2B

-Gose (OF), Davis (OF), Bonifacio/Izturis, Thole (C)

 

[Morguee]

Look at the difference in rotation between those balls. It's insane what Dickey and other pitchers can do to the ball.

My favorite part is the catcher closing his eyes and just taking a stab at it.

 

[Eyedea]

My favorite part is the catcher closing his eyes and just taking a stab at it.

When the ball does that last minute movement there's like no other way to react to it lol.

 

[beer123]

So is this how we're looking right now?:

R.A. Dickey RHP
J. Johnson RHP
Buerhle LHP
Morrow RHP
Romero LHP

-Happ, Drabek, Loup, Oliver, Lyon, Lincoln, Rogers, Delabar, Janssen, Santos, Cecil

Reyes SS
Cabrera LF
Bautista RF
Encarnacion 1B
Lawrie 3B
Rasmus CF
Lind DH
Arencibia C
Bonifacio/Izturis 2B

-Gose (OF), Davis (OF), Bonifacio/Izturis, Thole (C)

2 months ago people would've laughed at this "fantasy" lineup. It's crazy how much this team has transformed. With Morrow/Drabek/Hutchison/Bautista being injured, Escobar pitch-forked out of town, the Farrell fisaco, the losing season....then Farrell being traded for a bag of balls in Aviles (many thought the Jays could've landed something much more)...

And today we see a lineup that will contend for the top spot in the AL East


Got RID of the clubhouse cancer in Escobar.
Trading for:
Dickey - Reigning Cy Young winner
J. Johnson - Starting Ace of the Marlins for the last few years and has won a World Series.
Reyes - All-star shortstop

Getting ONE of these players would've been considered a successful offseason.

 

[TootooTrain]

So is this how we're looking right now?:

Other than Rasmus and Lind (two lefties) hitting back to back, and Lyon who isn't on the roster anymore, looks dead sexy.

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Blue Jays purchase contract of Quebec Capitales LHP Tony Davis
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QUEBEC -- The Toronto Blue Jays have purchased the contract of left-handed pitcher Tony Davis from the Quebec Capitales, the Can-Am League club announced Friday.

In 20 appearances for Quebec this season, the Newberry, Fla., native went 2-0 with a 1.06 ERA. He was used mostly out of the bullpen against lefthanded hitters.

Davis, 24, was drafted by the Minnesota Twins in the 12th round in 2009 but was released this spring. He joined Fargo-Moorhead of the American Association before he was traded to Quebec in July.

He had a 2.51 ERA in 44 appearances with the Twins' double-A affiliate from 2009 to 2011.

Minor league depth signing.

 

[Stats01]

Look at the difference in rotation between those balls. It's insane what Dickey and other pitchers can do to the ball.

Yep, Arencibia has a ton of work to do. That pitch is disgusting, how are you supposed to catch let alone hit it lol

 

[Eyedea]

 

[Leafsdude7]

Yep, Arencibia has a ton of work to do. That pitch is disgusting, how are you supposed to catch let alone hit it lol

Wait until it stops rolling and pick it up.

 

[BigFatCat999]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove12/story/_/id/8764398/baseball-five-most-five-least-improved-teams


Fascinating article on projections and who improved the most.

 

[Stats01]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove12/story/_/id/8764398/baseball-five-most-five-least-improved-teams


Fascinating article on projections and who improved the most.

93 wins eh. I'll take it

 

[Leafsdude7]

-Gose (OF), Davis (OF), Bonifacio/Izturis, Thole (C)

I still gotta say I don't like the PH potential of that bench. Davis, Gose and Bonifacio/Izturis can all hit for some average and can walk, but there's no power there to bring up in an inning with multiple-run potential.

I'd really like to see Berkman or Hairston brought it so we can put Lind on the bench and/or platoon them at 1B/DH, not to mention give Gose some more experience at AAA.

 

[TieClark]

I still gotta say I don't like the PH potential of that bench. Davis, Gose and Bonifacio/Izturis can all hit for some average and can walk, but there's no power there to bring up in an inning with multiple-run potential.

I'd really like to see Berkman or Hairston brought it so we can put Lind on the bench and/or platoon them at 1B/DH, not to mention give Gose some more experience at AAA.

There is nobody in the lineup to pinch hit for except maybe whoever is playing 2B though.

 

[dredeye]

As someone who loves fangraphs, I need to post this...

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/daily-notes-in-which-r-a-dickey-throws-a-changeup/

They have GIFs of his "changeup" in normal speed, slower, and slowest. This might be more disgusting than his knuckleball.

That's some nice movement. Just nasty. Who's catching him there? Crazy how he didn't frame the pitch at all. Just randomly catches it.