Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Madness the 13th: Report - Dickey extended, trade just pending physicals

[topched]

Buck was good in the playoffs because he was relegated to color commentary, something he's actually suited for. He's still not a great PBP guy. And in my ideal world, Zaun would take the radio color duties and do some panel work (Zaun's strengths are in-game analysis. Xs and Os type stuff. It's when the panel discussion starts giving him front-office topics to talk about that he goes off the rails into stupidtown) and Hayhurst becoming the in-game studio guy with Campbell.

love "stupidtown"... so appropriate.

I think they could adjust the panel if they gave Zaun the radio job, which I think he is suited for.

Hayhurst, maybe Jose Cruz Jr... who filled in a few times last year, wasn't bad.

Heck Joe Carter called alot of games back in the day but has been out since working for the cubs in the mid 2000's.

 

[McManked]

I'm not a big fan of Lind, but you have to hope that with the strength of the rest of the Blue Jays lineup, Lind will face some easier pitches. I don't think .250 / 25 / 80 are too far-fetched.

 

[danishh]

so apparently the jays will be throwing an immediate signing bonus into the deal, frontloading the 30M over 3 years.

this is significant because of the fiscal cliff thing in the US, where taxes are expected to go up ~4.5% for the rich. Also, considering in NYC dickey had to pay federal, state, and city income taxes and some of the highest property tax in the country (or high rent, whatever he chose), it actually makes sense that by giving him this signing bonus the jays were able to bring his price down from what he was asking from the mets.

 

[The Nemesis]

Love it, change two things.

I kind of want to see Bonifacio at 2nd base, it will be him or Izturis for sure. Also, do you think there's a chance we could trade Cecil for another 1 or 2 inning guy lefty?

Izturis will be the regular 2B. Bonifacio has more value as a super sub. and there's no point in trading Cecil for a short relief lefty/LOOGY type, as that would be the rule that Cecil can fill on his own.

 

[smitty10]

Love it, change two things.

I kind of want to see Bonifacio at 2nd base, it will be him or Izturis for sure. Also, do you think there's a chance we could trade Cecil for another 1 or 2 inning guy lefty?

Maicer will be the everyday 2nd baseman. Bonifacio will fill in and get a lot of time playing elsewhere as well. He'll be beneficial as a bench player because of how well he can pinch hit/run. He'll be very valuable to this team in that role.

 

[jcollins]

Laffey won't be back.. but he was very solid as reliever. 3.07 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, .192 BA.. 5 runs over nearly 15 innings.

I'd like to see us pick him up to be a starter in Buffalo.

 

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[Destroyer100]

Switched over to it, it's pretty awesome

Yup seems legit.

 

[jcollins]

Izturis will be the regular 2B. Bonifacio has more value as a super sub. and there's no point in trading Cecil for a short relief lefty/LOOGY type, as that would be the rule that Cecil can fill on his own.

Unless you can move him for a guy with options so you can send him down.

 

[Leafsdude7]

I get this feeling, that we are hearing both D'Anaurd's and Syndergaard's names is because AA said take one or the other. I mean, last we heard the only reason he was willing to put D'Anaurd in is because Dickey came with an extension.

 

[TSA0402]

I get this feeling, that we are hearing both D'Anaurd's and Syndergaard's names is because AA said take one or the other. I mean, last we heard the only reason he was willing to put D'Anaurd in is because Dickey came with an extension.

So I wonder if AA talked him into taking Syndergaard instead because of D'anaurds injuries.

IDK, just seems weird that AA would give arguably our top 2 prospects for Dickey, when we could likely get a younger pitcher.

That said, I am ESTATIC with Dickey. I remember saying getting Josh Johnson was a pipe dream, and not only do we have him, we have MB, Dickey, Reyes, Cabrera

Unreal

If you want a young controllable well above average pitcher, you aren't trading D'Arnaud. You are trading Brett Lawrie.

 

[smitty10]

So is Villanueva not coming back? If he did it'd be nice to see Cecil moved.

 

[Hannibal]

Now, guys, i think we are set.

Right now, i just hope everyone will stay heatlhy and perform well! Crossed fingers!

 

[Leafsdude7]

I think it'll be:

1. Johnson
2. Dickey
3. Morrow
4. Buerhle
5. Romero

This does seem to slowly be becoming the consensus around here (with Morrow and Johnson being flipped, of course). I'd be pretty happy with that setup, though I think Johnson and Morrow are so similar that you start with Morrow since he's been on the Jays for longer.

 

[superhakan]

A platoon of Izturis and Bonifacio could be successful. Bonifacio hits lefties better than righties, and Maicer hits righties better than lefties.

 

[Leafsdude7]

They'll split up Buerhle and Romero... they won't go Righty, righty, righty, lefty, lefty. Beurhle or Romero will be 3 and the other will be 5.

I really don't get the righty/lefty thing in the rotation, honestly. It's not like a single game batting line up, there's no real issue with having the same hand pitching on consecutive days that I can see.

 

[TootooTrain]

Buck was good in the playoffs because he was relegated to color commentary, something he's actually suited for. He's still not a great PBP guy. And in my ideal world, Zaun would take the radio color duties and do some panel work (Zaun's strengths are in-game analysis. Xs and Os type stuff. It's when the panel discussion starts giving him front-office topics to talk about that he goes off the rails into stupidtown) and Hayhurst becoming the in-game studio guy with Campbell.

I have this strange feeling that Zaun will eventually be groomed to replaced Buck. It scares me, but at the same time, would be thoroughly entertaining.

So is Villanueva not coming back? If he did it'd be nice to see Cecil moved.

He wants to be a starter, something we can't provide him.

 

[danishh]

Now, guys, i think we are set.

Right now, i just hope everyone will stay heatlhy and perform well! Crossed fingers!

i wouldnt say set... there's still adam lind playing first.

 

[topched]

A platoon of Izturis and Bonifacio could be successful. Bonifacio hits lefties better than righties, and Maicer hits righties better than lefties.

I think we'll see 110gp by both of them.

Between one of them starting at 2b and filling it at every position on the diamond except 1st and C... they'll have plenty of ab's.

 

[smitty10]

Now, guys, i think we are set.

Right now, i just hope everyone will stay heatlhy and perform well! Crossed fingers!

Not necessarily. Still waiting on Oliver.

 

[Leafsdude7]

i wouldnt say set... there's still adam lind playing first.

Honestly, if the only flaw in our lineup is Lind, I think we're okay.

 

[topched]

i wouldnt say set... there's still adam lind playing first.

Cant have an allstar at every position.

Secondly Lind is the DH, EE is at 1st base everyday... much better defensively.

 

[smitty10]

I have this strange feeling that Zaun will eventually be groomed to replaced Buck. It scares me, but at the same time, would be thoroughly entertaining.



He wants to be a starter, something we can't provide him.

Maybe he could get a job as a 4 or 5 guy with Pittsburgh, KC or Seattle?

 

[Habsfan18]

Cant have an allstar at every position.

Secondly Lind is the DH, EE is at 1st base everyday... much better defensively.

Which actually speaks to how awful Lind is.

 

[91Kadri91*]

A platoon of Izturis and Bonifacio could be successful. Bonifacio hits lefties better than righties, and Maicer hits righties better than lefties.

Bonifacio had a wRC+ of 37 against lefties this year, compared to a wRC+ of 99 against righties. To be fair though, over his career, Bonifacio has hit lefties better.