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Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Madness the 13th: Report - Dickey extended, trade just pending physicals

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Stats01 said:
I would think the Jays would have a really good idea on what it would take to get him signed or they wouldn't have gone through all of this. I'm pretty confident an extension will get done.
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That would be my guess too BUT if he changes his mind or asks for much more money? could be a stumbling block imo
 
shaner89 said:
Huge price to pay but we just acquired the best pitcher in the game.

**** his age. Aa wants to win now and we have a good system which allows us to ove kids for proven talent

Proven talent over question marks allllllll day

Woot
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:laugh:

No, we definitely didn't. He's great, yes, but best pitcher in the game? No chance.
 
Canada4Gold said:
I've been away for a while, have any other names leaked for sure? And by that I mean not the New York Post People's information?

I hear it's Dickey, Thole, Prospect for D'Arnaud, Syndergaard, Buck, Prospect but it's only from the ny post guys, anyone else saying anything for sure?
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That's all we know. The final prospect on each side are still unknown
 
pooleboy said:
Gose will be in AAA, everyone my god stop debating senseless crap, TDA was our top ranked prospect (however a lot of people have gose ahead of him) and noah was #3 and possibly the best of the lansing 3.

edit: and gose would probably be ranked #1 if he was still a "prospect"
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TDA was ranked ahead of Gose when they were both considered prospects.
 
uh... It maybe overkill but I'm still not OVERLY confident in this bullpen. It would be nice to see us go after someone ala Brian Wilson.
 
Well Wilson's not going to make it any better

Assuming we get Dickey, you're looking at

LR: Happ
MR: Delabar, Lincoln, Rogers,
SU: Oliver, Santos
CL: Janssen

And then you also have Cecil/Loup/Jeffress. Thats pretty impressive
 
rosenthal-Time is now for Jays in AL East
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...ickey-american-league-east-time-is-now-121612
"I’ve had a more difficult time coming around to the Jays’ deal. But I get it, and I applaud it. In fact, I’m starting to love it.
The New York Yankees are old. The Boston Red Sox are in transition. The Blue Jays’ time is now,
Forget that Dickey is 38, and that he’s a knuckle-baller. Consider his performance — not just last season, when he won the National League Cy Young Award, but the past three years, when he averaged more than 200 innings per season and produced a 2.95 ERA.
This isn’t a fluke, folks.
 
p.l.f. said:
rosenthal-Time is now for Jays in AL East
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...ickey-american-league-east-time-is-now-121612
"I’ve had a more difficult time coming around to the Jays’ deal. But I get it, and I applaud it. In fact, I’m starting to love it.
The New York Yankees are old. The Boston Red Sox are in transition. The Blue Jays’ time is now,
Forget that Dickey is 38, and that he’s a knuckle-baller. Consider his performance — not just last season, when he won the National League Cy Young Award, but the past three years, when he averaged more than 200 innings per season and produced a 2.95 ERA.
This isn’t a fluke, folks.
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It's interesting to note that Rosenthal writes:

Now, it’s the Toronto Blue Jays, who — according to a major-league source — are set to move the game’s top young catcher, Travis d’Arnaud, and a gifted young pitcher, Noah Syndergaard, in a deal for National League Cy Young Award winner R.A. Dickey.
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He's quoting a major league source not the New York Post on D'Arnaud and Syndergaard being in the deal. It sounds like someone with the Mets or the Jays has confirmed at least that much.
 
rojac said:
It's interesting to note that Rosenthal writes:



He's quoting a major league source not the New York Post on D'Arnaud and Syndergaard being in the deal.
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What is a "major league source"?

Could be a beat writer for a major league team or someone who works for one.

I'm still not completely convinced we have the true details of the trade.
 
The Nemesis said:
long.
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Fair enough, I get what you're saying. Maybe calling him a clutch hitter isn't right because there is not stat that clearly shows clutch hitting.

However, to say so far in his career, he comes through when he can drives run in, would be appropriate, I guess.
 
topched said:
What is a "major league source"?

Could be a beat writer for a major league team or someone who works for one.

I'm still not completely convinced we have the true details of the trade.
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We don't, because there's still apparently two "non-elite" prospects that we haven't heard of yet.
 
Warming up to the deal -- it's all in now. I still don't like giving both TD'A and Syndergaard (rather throw Gose -- but I'm a huge pitcher guy)... but you gotta give to get.

Let's just hope JP can improve :yo:
 
Canada4Gold said:
I've been away for a while, have any other names leaked for sure? And by that I mean not the New York Post People's information?

I hear it's Dickey, Thole, Prospect for D'Arnaud, Syndergaard, Buck, Prospect but it's only from the ny post guys, anyone else saying anything for sure?
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This^^^ Have any of the names been like legit confirmed? Or are you guys still going on about how AA gave up too much even though we have no idea yet about who for sure is in the deal
 
With hindsight, we probably could of landed both Latos and Gio last season since San Diego wanted a catcher and Oakland wanted Syndergaard. Would look much better from an asset point of view now had we done it.
 
Eyedea said:
We don't, because there's still apparently two "non-elite" prospects that we haven't heard of yet.
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No but I mean Im not 100% convinced of any pieces involved outside of Dickey and D'Arnaud. Those were the two who were originally confirmed based on medical reports being reviewed.

The fact that there are 2 mystery prospects makes me think that whoever the source is may not have accurate details.

What reason is there for not knowing two of the names involved in the deal?

I'm speculating that its speculation :laugh:
 
The Nemesis said:
irrelevant. As I said, if you filter the results by PA to try and normalize them, Arencibia only moves up 1 spot. and on the whole the order doesn't really change all that much.

Buster Posey was tops on both raw and normalized WAR lists. His WAR was 8.0 in 610 PAs (0.0131 WAR/PA). Now if you took Arencibia's WAR/PA and extrapolate it to Posey's 610 PAs, JP would've finished the year with a 2.0 WAR. Now if the rest of the catchers on the qualifying list didn't have their PA's change (Just JP), he would move up to around 14th-16th
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JP's performance matches that of mid range catchers while having a low salary and potential for improvement.

Doesn't Fangraphs have Jesus Montero with a negative WAR?

Would John Jaso, Ryan Doumit, Russel Martin or Jarrod Saltalamacchia be upgrades?
 
HawkeyeCB said:
Fair enough, I get what you're saying. Maybe calling him a clutch hitter isn't right because there is not stat that clearly shows clutch hitting.

However, to say so far in his career, he comes through when he can drives run in, would be appropriate, I guess.
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Isn't that exactly the same thing, just without using the "c" word?
 
There is a 'clutch' rating on Fangraphs, and JP is a career -0.34.

What does it mean? Nothing per this article, but yeah.

Not helping it that the most clutch Blue Jay over the past three years is apparently Adam Lind...
 
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