Blue Jays Discussion: Off-season Edition II - Winter Meeting Madness
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Dr.Funk
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They can negotiate a long term contract but the jays are a file and trial team so they will not do a 1 year deal now.
phillipmike
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Am I the only one who kept thinking Enmannuel was related to Bobby in some way before looking it up and realizing he isn't? Haha
Hellcat
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For those of you that are casting shade at Bo in this Arb dispute. The Jays offered $5mil to a player who slashed .290/.333/.469 with 24 homers, 13 steals and 93 RBIs in 159 games and $4.1 million to a 16 year old in the same week, who's played zero games for the Jays.
$7 mil is not an unreasonable ask.
$7 mil is not an unreasonable ask.
Those things are not related in any way. It's a problem with the system, not with Bo or the Jays. Given the system that's in place, the Jays offer seems more in line with precedents than Bo's ask .
Haringoth
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Additional Arb year salaries are based off, in part, the previous years, so a 2 million savings one year might be 6-10 by the time arbitration is through.
This situation speaks, in part, to why extensions are going to be harder for Bo and Vlad than say, Acuna.
They both come from extremely wealthy families, so can afford more easily to bet on themselves in FA. For Acuna or Albies, a big contract is generational wealth for their families, and the security of an extension is insurance against career ending injury.
This situation speaks, in part, to why extensions are going to be harder for Bo and Vlad than say, Acuna.
They both come from extremely wealthy families, so can afford more easily to bet on themselves in FA. For Acuna or Albies, a big contract is generational wealth for their families, and the security of an extension is insurance against career ending injury.
Hellcat
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I get there is a formula, my comment was more directed at fans that were throwing shade at Bo for being the only player to not sign the Jays offer. I think Bo is in the right to ask for $7mil TBH.
TheBeastCoast
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Bo is entitled to do whatever he wants but his number is not in line with recent precedent and he will likely lose. If he had of played ball he likely is signed at around 6 million. So he will lose his arbitration and principal will cost him around a million dollars. I am sure he is well aware of that and will make it up and then some when he cashes in during free agency. Has literally nothing to do with the international signings. Nothing.
I get that you're probably just responding to the couple of oddballs who clearly dislike Bo for some reason, but I think the vast majority of the response is as simple as "That ask is too high based on precedent and he probably won't get it." Talking about actual on-field value, Bo would be in the right asking for $25 million. But that's unfortunately not how the system works.
Personally, I like when players do this kind of thing. He'll probably end up losing his case and getting $5 million. He could have settled for somewhere in the middle, but he's going to aim high, and if he does manage to win it'll set a new precedent that can have a snowball affect that ultimately gets players way more than the couple million he's going for. I hope he wins because more money going to the players is better than more money staying with the owners.
phillipmike
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Suntouchable13
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That’s fine, I just hope the Jays highlight every single flaw he has out on the field during the arb hearing.
That's how every arbitration hearing works for every player. Why would his be any different?
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Eyedea
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Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz comps. Power is power but if he really has a great eye at the plate with his build then I am already pencilling him into the 2026 lineup.
But also, why say right handed hitting Ortiz when you can just throw out a Vladdy Jr comp?
Seems like they signed some promising international prospects.
barilko05
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This team has always been front of the line when it comes to the Caribbean and South American markets. Goes all the way back to Gillick and Epy Guerrero, although I seem to recall there was a period there (Ricciardi era?) where we decided to pull our scouts and development people out. I think it pissed off a lot of agents and baseball people from there, especially in the Dominican. NIce to see we're investing in these players again now. Maybe the only other team that has a longer history in those areas is the Dodgers.
It is great to see them targeting some OFers, as that has been an organizational weakness for a number of years.
dredeye
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Will Shi do comparisons to those players on the defensive side of the ball next? Because the plate favours Bo for comparison sake. The field shows how he doesn't belong in those conversations.
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