Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)

[chrispw1]

I believe Adam Oates is the only player to play in the post season against both the Minnesota North Stars and Wild

 

[reckoning]

I believe Adam Oates is the only player to play in the post season against both the Minnesota North Stars and Wild

Steve Thomas did as well.

 

[The Panther]

In his first four home games of 1986-87, Wayne Gretzky's stat-line:
4GP: 5G + 13A = 18PTS (+11)

In his first six home games of 1988-89, Mario Lemieux's stat-line:
6GP: 14G + 15A = 29 PTS (+15)

 

[ES]

Florida Panthers had exactly 92 points in the regular season in both of their seasons when they advanced to the Stanley Cup Finals.

 

[CDN24]

The Toronto Maple Leafs have somehow not been swept in a playoff series since 1981 against the Islanders. Impossible right? But how? I am going to go out on a limb and suggest that either every other team since then or darn near close has been swept at some point. This is the definition of an obscure stat because they've had lousy teams and a lack of playoff success. But somehow no sweeps against them.

That has been 42 years, In that time they have played 37 playoff series. For comparison other teams that have been around continuously since 1981
Oilers 55 series
Flames 38 series
Canucks 40 series
Canadians 60 series
Jets coyotes 25 series
Nord/avs 56 series
Bruins 66 series
Sabres 36 series
Carolina/hartford 34 series
Black Hawks 57 series
Nothstars/Stars 54 series
red wings 63 series
Kings 40 series
Devils 46 series
Islanders 41 series
Rangers 54 series
flyers 55 series
Penguins 61 series
Blues 57 series
Caps 51 series

They have had less opportunities (playoff series) to break that streak than most other teams around since 81. Only 3/20 franchises have less playoff series in that time

 

[MarkusKetterer]

This is the most mind blowing fact: the last time the Leafs won the Cup, McDonald’s still wasn’t available in Canada

 

[Super Fadio Bro]

Florida Panthers had exactly 92 points in the regular season in both of their seasons when they advanced to the Stanley Cup Finals.

They defeated the Bruins in the first round in both runs.

 

[crobro]

This is the most mind blowing fact: the last time the Leafs won the Cup, McDonald’s still wasn’t available in Canada

Bigger fact

They haven’t made it the finals since!!!!!

 

[brentashton]

This is the most mind blowing fact: the last time the Leafs won the Cup, McDonald’s still wasn’t available in Canada

Mcdonalds sucks and the TML…blow.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Mcdonalds sucks and the TML…blow.

I wasn’t claiming it’s good. It’s just that that’s a surprising fact

 

[The Panther]

This is the most mind blowing fact: the last time the Leafs won the Cup, McDonald’s still wasn’t available in Canada

In the UK, color TV wasn't available yet.

Here's another one for fun: The last time the Maple Leafs won three playoff rounds, the New York Yankees, led by Babe Ruth, were World Series champs.

 

[jigglysquishy]

When Chris Chelios played 7 games with the Atlanta Thrashers in 2009-10, he became the last NHLer that was alive when the Leafs won a Cup.

 

[The Panther]

This is a bit obscure, but I was just seeing some plus/minus statistical oddities from games of the past --- specifically, games where teammates, in the same game, has massively different plus/minuses. Examples:

Difference of 10 plus/minus points
-- Edmonton @ Chicago Dec. 1985:
Gardner +3, Larmer, Savard, Second -7

Difference of 8 plus/minus points
-- Edmonton @ Pittsburgh, Feb. 1983
Håkansson, Lee +3, Baxter, Boyd, Shedden -5
-- Detroit @ Edmonton, March 1983
Woods +4, Huber -4
-- Edmonton @ Toronto, Jam. 1986
Kurri +4, MacTavish -4
-- New Jersey @ L.A., Nov. 1990:
Gretzky +5, Kasper -3


Does anyone know the "record" for this? Can any two teammates beat the 10 plus/minus points' difference that wacky night of the Edmonton-Chicago game in 1985-86?

 

[pnep]

This is a bit obscure, but I was just seeing some plus/minus statistical oddities from games of the past --- specifically, games where teammates, in the same game, has massively different plus/minuses. Examples:

Difference of 10 plus/minus points
-- Edmonton @ Chicago Dec. 1985:
Gardner +3, Larmer, Savard, Second -7

Difference of 8 plus/minus points
-- Edmonton @ Pittsburgh, Feb. 1983
Håkansson, Lee +3, Baxter, Boyd, Shedden -5
-- Detroit @ Edmonton, March 1983
Woods +4, Huber -4
-- Edmonton @ Toronto, Jam. 1986
Kurri +4, MacTavish -4
-- New Jersey @ L.A., Nov. 1990:
Gretzky +5, Kasper -3


Does anyone know the "record" for this? Can any two teammates beat the 10 plus/minus points' difference that wacky night of the Edmonton-Chicago game in 1985-86?

11:

Montréal Canadiens - New York Rangers - Nov 10, 1960 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Montréal Canadiens vs. New York Rangers, Nov 10, 1960 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

Chicago Blackhawks - Montréal Canadiens - Nov 6, 1976 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Chicago Blackhawks vs. Montréal Canadiens, Nov 6, 1976 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

10:

Boston Bruins - Toronto Maple Leafs - Apr 7, 1974 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Boston Bruins vs. Toronto Maple Leafs, Apr 7, 1974 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

Boston Bruins - Toronto Maple Leafs - Feb 7, 1976 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Boston Bruins vs. Toronto Maple Leafs, Feb 7, 1976 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

New York Islanders - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mar 3, 1984 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - New York Islanders vs. Toronto Maple Leafs, Mar 3, 1984 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

Toronto Maple Leafs - Winnipeg Jets (1979) - Mar 12, 1989 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Winnipeg Jets (1979), Mar 12, 1989 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

 

[The Panther]

11:

Montréal Canadiens - New York Rangers - Nov 10, 1960 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Montréal Canadiens vs. New York Rangers, Nov 10, 1960 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

Chicago Blackhawks - Montréal Canadiens - Nov 6, 1976 | NHL.com

NHL Gamecenter - Chicago Blackhawks vs. Montréal Canadiens, Nov 6, 1976 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.

www.nhl.com

Man, these are hilarious! And even from a fairly low-scoring era.

In the 1960 game, Doug Harvey and Langlois were +7, and Tom Johnson (also a defenceman) was -4.

Conversation after the game:
Harvey: "So, Tom, do you think you did your share to help the team tonight...?"
Johnson: " . . . "

 

[The Panther]

I noticed that in this game, which the hapless 1984-85 Maple Leafs lost to Quebec 12 - 3 (on home ice, no less)....
Quebec Nordiques vs. Toronto Maple Leafs Box Score: October 20, 1984

...the Leafs surrendered FOUR short-handed goals against.

So, I'm wondering, what's the NHL record for that?

 

[Hockey Outsider]

I noticed that in this game, which the hapless 1984-85 Maple Leafs lost to Quebec 12 - 3 (on home ice, no less)....
Quebec Nordiques vs. Toronto Maple Leafs Box Score: October 20, 1984

...the Leafs surrendered FOUR short-handed goals against.

So, I'm wondering, what's the NHL record for that?

It looks like only three of the four SH goals were from the Nordiques (Toronto also got one).

I'm fairly sure the record is four SH goals, which happened in this game between Vancouver and Winnipeg in 1995. A huge game for Tkachuk - two goals, three assists, +6.

 

[The Panther]

It looks like only three of the four SH goals were from the Nordiques (Toronto also got one).

Ah, whoops!

 

[seventieslord]

Scotty Bowman coached both Doug Harvey, who was in the NHL in 1947, and Pavel Datsyuk, who was in the NHL in 2016.

 

[wetcoast]

I noticed that in this game, which the hapless 1984-85 Maple Leafs lost to Quebec 12 - 3 (on home ice, no less)....
Quebec Nordiques vs. Toronto Maple Leafs Box Score: October 20, 1984

...the Leafs surrendered FOUR short-handed goals against.

So, I'm wondering, what's the NHL record for that?

Just to jump on the Leafs bandwagon or pile up they draft 3 players from the same junior team in the first round in 1989


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[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Scott Thornton[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Belleville Bulls [OHL][/TD]
[TD]941[/TD]
[TD]144[/TD]
[TD]141[/TD]
[TD]285[/TD]
[TD]1459[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Rob Pearson[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]Belleville Bulls [OHL][/TD]
[TD]269[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD]110[/TD]
[TD]645[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Steve Bancroft[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Belleville Bulls [OHL][/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


First time I tried this and what a screwup.....

 

[Super Fadio Bro]

When Chris Chelios played 7 games with the Atlanta Thrashers in 2009-10, he became the last NHLer that was alive when the Leafs won a Cup.

Now no current players were alive when the Leafs AND Flyers won their last Cup.

 

[seventieslord]

Now no current players were alive when the Leafs AND Flyers won their last Cup.

Pretty sure Islanders too now

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Just to jump on the Leafs bandwagon or pile up they draft 3 players from the same junior team in the first round in 1989


[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Scott Thornton[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]Belleville Bulls [OHL][/TD]
[TD]941[/TD]
[TD]144[/TD]
[TD]141[/TD]
[TD]285[/TD]
[TD]1459[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Rob Pearson[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]Belleville Bulls [OHL][/TD]
[TD]269[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD]110[/TD]
[TD]645[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Steve Bancroft[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]Belleville Bulls [OHL][/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


First time I tried this and what a screwup.....

Year	Rd.	Overall	Player	Pos	Amateur Team	Lg	Draft	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	PIM
1989	1	12	Rob Pearson	RW	Belleville Bulls (OHL)	NHL	Entry	269	56	54	110	-31	645
1988	1	6	Scott Pearson	LW	Kingston Canadians (OHL)	NHL	Entry	292	56	42	98	-39	615

another obscure late 80s leafs draft fact: these two weren't brothers

 

[Super Fadio Bro]

Pretty sure Islanders too now

Yes and Giordano was born a few months after their last cup.

 

[The Panther]

In 1984-85, Wayne Gretzky had 80 even strength points in the first half (40GP) of the season.

To put that into perspective, only five players besides Gretzky have ever had 100 even strength points in an entire season, and each of them did it once. (Gretzky did it ten times.)