What makes this even more of an obscure stat is that Leafs are the only team whose latest sweep is from 1980's, only three team from the 1990's, and 15 (if I counted correctly) teams have been swept in the last 5-6 years.
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What makes this even more of an obscure stat is that Leafs are the only team whose latest sweep is from 1980's, only three team from the 1990's, and 15 (if I counted correctly) teams have been swept in the last 5-6 years.
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I remember JT Compher doing this about 3-4 years ago on the Avs. I think they were playing the Coyotes. Someone can correct me, but I think it was the same penalty kill he scored 2 SH goals on.
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I guess I got lucky looking into this. I went to Avs schedule for 2018-2019 and opened box score for their first game against Arizona. But yes, you are correct.
Avalanche 5-1 Coyotes (Nov 23, 2018) Final Score - ESPN
Game summary of the Colorado Avalanche vs. Arizona Coyotes NHL game, final score 5-1, from November 23, 2018 on ESPN.
Three teams have had an equal number of goals scored and conceded during the season while having an equal number of wins and losses (OT/SO losses included)
1990/91 Edmonton Oilers (37 W, 37 L, 8 T, 272 GF, 272 GA)
2008/09 St. Louis Blues (41 W, 31 L, 10 OTL, 233 GF, 233 GA)
2012/13 New York Islanders (24 W, 17 L, 7 OTL, 139 GF, 139 GA)
1990/91 Edmonton Oilers (37 W, 37 L, 8 T, 272 GF, 272 GA)
2008/09 St. Louis Blues (41 W, 31 L, 10 OTL, 233 GF, 233 GA)
2012/13 New York Islanders (24 W, 17 L, 7 OTL, 139 GF, 139 GA)
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Updated the list since Vernon just got selected for HHOF induction in 2023!
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Wayne Gretzky was only 23 when he tied the NHL record for most hat-tricks in a entire career:
Edmonton Oilers history: Wayne Gretzky ties NHL hat-trick record, scores 3 goals and 3 assists in 6-3 win over Detroit Red Wings
Edmonton Oilers history: Wayne Gretzky ties NHL hat-trick record, scores 3 goals and 3 assists in 6-3 win over Detroit Red Wings
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This is a total random, but what happened with Scotty Bowman's pulling the goalie (Barrasso) in this 1984-85 game, early in the season (Oct. 26, 1984), Buffalo @ Detroit's Joe Louis Arena?:
Sabres vs. Red Wings Box Score: October 26, 1984
The Wings were up 4-3 with a minute left. So, okay, Scotty pulls Barrasso. The Wings score an empty-netter to make it 5-3. With 49 seconds left, you'd think Bowman would put the goalie back in, but he doesn't. Five second after the face-off, the Wings score another empty-netter to make it 6-3. There are now 44 seconds left and a three-goal deficit. Scotty still doesn't put the goalie back in. The Wings score a third empty-net goal with 15 seconds left to make it 7-3. (Consequently, players like Housley and Andreychuk go -5 in the game.)
What was Bowman thinking here??
Sabres vs. Red Wings Box Score: October 26, 1984
The Wings were up 4-3 with a minute left. So, okay, Scotty pulls Barrasso. The Wings score an empty-netter to make it 5-3. With 49 seconds left, you'd think Bowman would put the goalie back in, but he doesn't. Five second after the face-off, the Wings score another empty-netter to make it 6-3. There are now 44 seconds left and a three-goal deficit. Scotty still doesn't put the goalie back in. The Wings score a third empty-net goal with 15 seconds left to make it 7-3. (Consequently, players like Housley and Andreychuk go -5 in the game.)
What was Bowman thinking here??
FerrisRox
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Were the same Buffalo players on the ice for all three empty net goals? He might have been punishing players he thought had a particularly poor effort and wanted to embarrass them and make a point of some kind.
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Just to show much Cam Neely terrorized Patrick Roy:
Playoff save percentage - 1988 to 1993 (min 25 GP)
I might be slightly off (there were two game logs where it wasn't clear what time Roy was switched), but this should be in the right ballpark.
(No, I'm not presenting this as serious research. On average, any goalie would do worse against Neely - or any other top goal-scorer, for that matter. Still - Roy might not have been able to hear Roenick because of the Stanley Cup rings plugging his ears, but I'm guessing he paid attention whenever Neely was on the ice. I wonder if, as a result, he enjoyed Dumb & Dumber less).
Playoff save percentage - 1988 to 1993 (min 25 GP)
| Player | Shots | Saves | SV% |
| Roy (no Neely) | 2,324 | 2,127 | 91.5% |
| Tom Barrasso | 2,128 | 1,928 | 90.6% |
| Bill Ranford | 1,233 | 1,115 | 90.4% |
| Ed Belfour | 878 | 789 | 89.9% |
| Don Beaupre | 757 | 679 | 89.7% |
| Kirk McLean | 966 | 866 | 89.6% |
| Tim Cheveldae | 685 | 614 | 89.6% |
| Jon Casey | 1,136 | 1,016 | 89.4% |
| Grant Fuhr | 1,400 | 1,243 | 88.8% |
| Andy Moog | 1,807 | 1,604 | 88.8% |
| Ron Hextall | 852 | 755 | 88.6% |
| Mike Vernon | 1,193 | 1,052 | 88.2% |
| Glenn Healy | 789 | 695 | 88.1% |
| Kelly Hrudey | 1,927 | 1,697 | 88.1% |
| Rejean Lemelin | 638 | 561 | 87.9% |
| Greg Millen | 860 | 748 | 87.0% |
| Roy (vs Neely) | 63 | 52 | 82.5% |
I might be slightly off (there were two game logs where it wasn't clear what time Roy was switched), but this should be in the right ballpark.
(No, I'm not presenting this as serious research. On average, any goalie would do worse against Neely - or any other top goal-scorer, for that matter. Still - Roy might not have been able to hear Roenick because of the Stanley Cup rings plugging his ears, but I'm guessing he paid attention whenever Neely was on the ice. I wonder if, as a result, he enjoyed Dumb & Dumber less).
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But yet I have to defend him to the young pups that McDavid is no Great One---and I'm and Islanders fan to boot!
While the Devils have never been swept they have had a few series where they fell vehind 3-0 but managed to salvage a game ir two, 1993 versus the Penguins and the 2012 finals against the Kings
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The 90-91 Blues with Brett Hull (86) and Adam Oates (25) have the biggest gap between leading goal scorer and next-highest teammate, 61 goals.
I haven't looked further than 85-86 Edmonton but Gretzky's 77 assist lead over teammate Paul Coffey has got to be the record for that.
I haven't looked further than 85-86 Edmonton but Gretzky's 77 assist lead over teammate Paul Coffey has got to be the record for that.
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I probably mentioned this in the previous thread but this is one of my favorites - defenseman Gerry Odrowski scored only 12 goals in 309 NHL games but 7 of them were shorthanded, over half his career goals! Somehow he lost that ability in the WHA though, where he played almost the same number of games (282) with one shortie... however he scored 4 powerplay goals in the WHA, something he was unable to do even once in the NHL!
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Thomas McCarthy (12 games)
first:
Quebec Bulldogs - Ottawa Senators (1917) - Feb 4, 1920 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Quebec Bulldogs vs. Ottawa Senators (1917), Feb 4, 1920 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Billy Boucher (56 games)
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Montréal Canadiens - Toronto St. Patricks - Dec 17, 1921 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Montréal Canadiens vs. Toronto St. Patricks, Dec 17, 1921 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Sprague Cleghorn (1 game)
Boston Bruins - Pittsburgh Pirates - Dec 11, 1925 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Boston Bruins vs. Pittsburgh Pirates, Dec 11, 1925 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Clarence Boucher (10 games)
first:
New York Americans - Pittsburgh Pirates - Nov 16, 1926 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - New York Americans vs. Pittsburgh Pirates, Nov 16, 1926 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Gizzy Hart (3 games)
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Boston Bruins - Detroit Cougars - Nov 18, 1926 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Boston Bruins vs. Detroit Cougars, Nov 18, 1926 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Bob Connors (6 games)
first:
New York Americans - Ottawa Senators (1917) - Feb 26, 1927 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - New York Americans vs. Ottawa Senators (1917), Feb 26, 1927 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Nick Wasnie (13 games)
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Chicago Blackhawks - Montreal Maroons - Nov 17, 1927 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Chicago Blackhawks vs. Montreal Maroons, Nov 17, 1927 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Cliff Barton (4 games)
first:
Montreal Maroons - Pittsburgh Pirates - Nov 16, 1929 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Montreal Maroons vs. Pittsburgh Pirates, Nov 16, 1929 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Bob Gracie (1 game)
Detroit Red Wings - Montreal Maroons - Nov 28, 1937 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Detroit Red Wings vs. Montreal Maroons, Nov 28, 1937 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Ralph Bowman (1game)
Detroit Red Wings - New York Rangers - Dec 20, 1938 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Detroit Red Wings vs. New York Rangers, Dec 20, 1938 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Connie Brown (1game)
Chicago Blackhawks - Detroit Red Wings - Nov 8, 1942 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Chicago Blackhawks vs. Detroit Red Wings, Nov 8, 1942 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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Carl Smith (1game)
Detroit Red Wings - New York Rangers - Dec 19, 1943 | NHL.com
NHL Gamecenter - Detroit Red Wings vs. New York Rangers, Dec 19, 1943 - summary, stats, boxscore, play by play, recap and more.
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| Robin Burns | 1974020007 | 1975020717 | 149 | 149 | |
| Gabriel Vilardi | 2020020016 | 2022030186 | 142 | 7 | 149 |
| Robert Lang | 1992020006 | 1995021065 | 147 | 147 | |
| Glen Metropolit | 2007020019 | 2008020904 | 137 | 7 | 144 |
| Colin McDonald | 2012020006 | 2014030147 | 133 | 8 | 141 |
| Anthony Stewart | 2008020021 | 2011021225 | 136 | 136 | |
| Alex Tanguay | 2008020012 | 2009021229 | 130 | 2 | 132 |
| Raffi Torres | 2010020023 | 2013030187 | 96 | 35 | 131 |
| Kyle Wellwood | 2011020023 | 2012020676 | 116 | 116 | |
| Peter Regin | 2010020010 | 2012020586 | 92 | 92 | |
| Jiri Novotny | 2005020643 | 2006021214 | 82 | 4 | 86 |
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| Wes Walz | 1990020001 | 1991020415 | 71 | 2 | 73 |
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Many know about the trade that brought Dave Semenko from North Stars to Oilers. Or to say it better way, his rights to NHL Oilers.
Oilers swapped their 42th pick (became Neal Broten) and 63rd (became Kevin Maxwell) to Semenkos rights and 48th (became Mark Messier).
Though the article that I am later quoting says that Oilers would have got North Stars 69th pick too (became Glenn Anderson). Some modern sources claim that to be part of expansion draft shanigans.
But that seems more history altering that it is. Trade was made just before Oilers 42nd pick. They had to know Nanne wanted Broten to North Stars. So Oilers weren´t that interested about Broten. And they were trusting that Messier would still be available in 48. And they may have picked Messier without this trade. And they would have likely found away to get Semenko anyways.
But there is bigger what if. Oilers wanted Dale Hunter on 42nd pick. But Hunter was just picked by Nordiques on 41st. So this trade was their plan B. So if they would have picked Hunter would Messier still be available in 63rd?
Edmonton Journal 10. Aug 1979
In round two, Oilers figured they´d make it a family affair by drafting Dave Hunter´s 19-year-old brother Dale out of Sudbury. But Quebec Nordiques got him one step ahead of them.
So they went to Plan B.
They gave Minnesota GM Lou Nanne a call and offered to switch draft choices in return for the rights to ex-Oiler tough guy Dave Semenko. Nanne quickly agreed. So Oilers swapped their last pick in round two to North Stars for their third-round choice; and followed that up by dealing their third-rounder for Minnesota´s fourth pick.
"The deal´s been cooking for awhile," said Oiler GM Larry Gordon. "We just left things hanging to see how the draft worked out...
Oilers swapped their 42th pick (became Neal Broten) and 63rd (became Kevin Maxwell) to Semenkos rights and 48th (became Mark Messier).
Though the article that I am later quoting says that Oilers would have got North Stars 69th pick too (became Glenn Anderson). Some modern sources claim that to be part of expansion draft shanigans.
But that seems more history altering that it is. Trade was made just before Oilers 42nd pick. They had to know Nanne wanted Broten to North Stars. So Oilers weren´t that interested about Broten. And they were trusting that Messier would still be available in 48. And they may have picked Messier without this trade. And they would have likely found away to get Semenko anyways.
But there is bigger what if. Oilers wanted Dale Hunter on 42nd pick. But Hunter was just picked by Nordiques on 41st. So this trade was their plan B. So if they would have picked Hunter would Messier still be available in 63rd?
Edmonton Journal 10. Aug 1979
In round two, Oilers figured they´d make it a family affair by drafting Dave Hunter´s 19-year-old brother Dale out of Sudbury. But Quebec Nordiques got him one step ahead of them.
So they went to Plan B.
They gave Minnesota GM Lou Nanne a call and offered to switch draft choices in return for the rights to ex-Oiler tough guy Dave Semenko. Nanne quickly agreed. So Oilers swapped their last pick in round two to North Stars for their third-round choice; and followed that up by dealing their third-rounder for Minnesota´s fourth pick.
"The deal´s been cooking for awhile," said Oiler GM Larry Gordon. "We just left things hanging to see how the draft worked out...
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I always remembered Lorne Henning for that, but he was 18 of 73, or just under 25% I guess. Just 2 PP, so a 9:1 SH : PP ratio must be up there for someone who played over 500 career games.
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The Flyers got swept by the Bruins in 2011.
Yes they did. Not sure how I missed that, but fixed in the original post.
Going through some 1979 draft stuff and I guess I can throw this too because personally I did not know this. Dino Ciccarelli went undrafted in 1979 draft (though Lou Nanne was already considering him in third round). The reason seems to be that he had serious injury in previous seasons and there were lot of doubts could he play in NHL. Fractured mid-femur just above the knee in a freak practice accident.
"All the clubs knew about him but no one wanted to take a chance," said Nanne. "But we almost put In a claim in the third round."
Funnily enough Buffalo and Scotty Bowman were the ones competing from him after the draft with North Stars.
Minneapolis Star 31. August 1979
"Nanne made me an offer about the same as Buffalo's," said Ciccarelli. "And then we had a little talk." No doubt the North Star general manager pointed out that Buffalo had Danny Care and Rene Robert and Rlc Selling and Rick Dudley patrolling the right side and, realistically, Clccarelll's chances were better at Minnesota.
"All the clubs knew about him but no one wanted to take a chance," said Nanne. "But we almost put In a claim in the third round."
Funnily enough Buffalo and Scotty Bowman were the ones competing from him after the draft with North Stars.
Minneapolis Star 31. August 1979
"Nanne made me an offer about the same as Buffalo's," said Ciccarelli. "And then we had a little talk." No doubt the North Star general manager pointed out that Buffalo had Danny Care and Rene Robert and Rlc Selling and Rick Dudley patrolling the right side and, realistically, Clccarelll's chances were better at Minnesota.
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