Obligatory Fire Todd MClellan, Rob Blake & Co.

[KINGS17]

I still view blake as that corpse laying down in front of the waste management sign

If ever a picture was worth a thousand words, that was it.

 

[KINGS17]

You can’t argue in good faith for regime change when the team is playing lights out. GM Rob’s credibility at this point is looking strong. I love to crap on the guy, but you have to credit results when they match the expectations communicated by management.

They're on a hot streak now, and still not a playoff team. We'll be approaching the Christmas / New Year holiday season soon, and we all know what usually happens.

I want to see the kids continue to make progress. Blake stockpiled and used his draft picks, and may have picked up some gems the same way Dave Taylor did when he was GM. That doesn't mean Blake is the man to push this thing to the top of the mountain. Honestly, I care little about playoff appearances anymore. The playoffs are an important step for this team, if the youngsters are leading the way, but not as much if the kids aren't pulling most of the weight. I would be happy to see them all get the experience of being in the playoffs if it happens this year.

What I care about now is seeing another 3-4 years of dominant playoff hockey like we experienced in 2012-2014.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

It 100% seemed like to me, the day Brown was not practicing AND TM was not on the ice for practice, (first time ever??)
I 100% believe they were meeting with ? Blake, Luc ? others to discuss the top line / Brown's play.
That night, he was still on line 1, but OFF PP1. I think they discussed that change. The PP was ill (not the good ill)
and had 3 goals for and 3 against of late, plus Brown had 0 PP points in 52 mins of PP time.

Then after that game, in which Brown was uber-perimeter and awful (yes, he hit one stationary dude hard, BFD)
Brown was lined up line 3 next day at practice. Seriously. Brown and TM not on ice at practice. Then a change was
made. Yes, coaches make the lineup decisions, BUT when everyone older than 4 years old can see 23 failing to that degree
and the coach will not make changes, the management would do something.

In the past, they would let Carter coast around and fail, but that was partly because no one was ready to take his place
and BIGGER, there was no mandate to make the playoffs. We all know that the playoff cut for last spot will be between
3 teams, separated by 1-3 points. Thus, I fully believe management may get involved to not let players fail and get involved,
since TM was probably set on leaving Brown on line one for all 82 games. (and I predicted he would have 9 goals 16 assists season.
I may have errored too high) I was called out "but Brown led the team in goals last year" Yeah, but half of those were in month
1 and by the last month of the season, he was a shell...and now a shell of that shell.

I mean, really. Then why Brown and TM not at practice? There was certainly a reason.

 

[Sol]

I still view blake as that corpse laying down in front of the waste management sign

I still can't find that picture

 

[Fishhead]

It 100% seemed like to me, the day Brown was not practicing AND TM was not on the ice for practice, (first time ever??)
I 100% believe they were meeting with ? Blake, Luc ? others to discuss the top line / Brown's play.
That night, he was still on line 1, but OFF PP1. I think they discussed that change. The PP was ill (not the good ill)
and had 3 goals for and 3 against of late, plus Brown had 0 PP points in 52 mins of PP time.

Then after that game, in which Brown was uber-perimeter and awful (yes, he hit one stationary dude hard, BFD)
Brown was lined up line 3 next day at practice. Seriously. Brown and TM not on ice at practice. Then a change was
made. Yes, coaches make the lineup decisions, BUT when everyone older than 4 years old can see 23 failing to that degree
and the coach will not make changes, the management would do something.

In the past, they would let Carter coast around and fail, but that was partly because no one was ready to take his place
and BIGGER, there was no mandate to make the playoffs. We all know that the playoff cut for last spot will be between
3 teams, separated by 1-3 points. Thus, I fully believe management may get involved to not let players fail and get involved,
since TM was probably set on leaving Brown on line one for all 82 games. (and I predicted he would have 9 goals 16 assists season.
I may have errored too high) I was called out "but Brown led the team in goals last year" Yeah, but half of those were in month
1 and by the last month of the season, he was a shell...and now a shell of that shell.

I mean, really. Then why Brown and TM not at practice? There was certainly a reason.

It doesn't mean that TM was set on Brown on line one, no coach makes decisions in a vacuum. Upper management and coaches work closely together to figure out lineups, who comes up, who comes down, and all that. I know many believe that the GM's move guys up and down and it's up to the coach to figure out what to do with them, but I've never bought that. That would be horribly inefficient and disadvantageous, the more sets of eyes the better. DL was often behind the bench on the ice during practices while he was here, to win it's a team effort. This is why DL stuck with Sutter to the bitter end, they were doing things as a team like all successful teams do.

I simply think they identified a need and are trying to find a solution.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Vilardi gets sent down and is now being tried at wing right when Brown got moved down. You have a guy with a big body who can make space, is creative, can backup on faceoffs, and is good on the boards. They obviously aren't scared to give him tough assignments as evidenced by his deployment. He needs to go to the AHL for some game conditioning anyways, slot him at wing to get him comfortable with playing out there. He could end up being a great solution. We all laugh and say they must be reading the boards, but it just makes sense.

One thing it does show that Blake & co. aren't sitting on their hands, but are evaluating and will make changes where necessary. Traditionally teams do this after the first 15 games or so, which is right when this happened.

 

[unicornpig]

Lol pathetic, how tm keeps his job after this is on Blake

 

[Gjwrams]

Yep @Sol ….I’m on board now.

 

[SufferingSelfCreated]

If Brown gets more minutes than Lemieux in any game for the rest of the season, TMAC should be terminated Immediately.

 

[Butch 19]

f*** moral losses!!!

 

[Butch 19]

Yep @Sol ….I’m on board now.

I thought you said bored.

 

[LAKings88]

This is just going to be a tough transition year. Edm, Calgary, and Vegas, should lock up the pacific spots. Anaheim will compete for a wild card.

LA does not have the killer instinct to lock it down or put a game out of reach.

Losing Doughty and Walker were both big blows. Byfield too.

Kopi is so good we forget to appreciate him. He goes through dry spells but is consistent for 80 points.

He still needs a supporting cast tho and isn’t getting much help.

The second line has dried up. RV has looked like a 15-20 goal scorer at best. Brown is 37?

I’m not running for the hills but this is a hope to stay in contention and filter in more youth season.

 

[cyclones22]

Well, someone is to blame at this point. Is it Blake or TMc or both? Is ownership saying make the playoffs this season or you're all fired? I think many of us would be fine with an 80+ point season if youth was being integrated. It's happening on the defense because it was forced to happen due to injury and those kids are stepping up even if they have bad games here and there. Now it needs to happen on the forward lines. The best development teams insert their top prospects with veteran talent.

The investment is in youth, the whole "earn it" thought process I'm not entirely on board with when TMc is the one putting these kids in positions to "earn" his trust. @Raccoon Jesus has re-hashed this a million times, but our vets who are actually skilled should be good enough to insulate our top prospects on a line with them. These young players should not be expected to carry a line or constantly be put in situations that doesn't exploit their skills. Look at Kupari now. He looked like an exciting player early on, folks saying he's replaced Vilardi as 3C etc. Now he's being turned into a grinder. Fantastic.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Do we get relegated to the ECHL after losing to AZ?

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Blake has done ok. The last 4 players he brought in: Lemieux, Arvidssson, Danault and Edler can all play. And all given up were 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th rd picks.

TM overuses Kopi and Roy. Neither should play over 20 minutes. Brown should have never been on the PP and moved off line 1 from day 1.
I still think Arvidsson is ok and was a setback to be out several games for him. No, he's not the 30 goal player he was, but he's not doing that bad
and think with Kempe up there, will start seeing a payoff.

Will like to see where the Kings are, once Doughty and Byfield are back. Please do NOT move Kaliyev or Kupari off in place of QB and
not move Clague off in place of DD. Move Maatta and Brown off. Do the right thing.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

This is just going to be a tough transition year. Edm, Calgary, and Vegas, should lock up the pacific spots. Anaheim will compete for a wild card.

LA does not have the killer instinct to lock it down or put a game out of reach.

Losing Doughty and Walker were both big blows. Byfield too.

Kopi is so good we forget to appreciate him. He goes through dry spells but is consistent for 80 points.

He still needs a supporting cast tho and isn’t getting much help.

The second line has dried up. RV has looked like a 15-20 goal scorer at best. Brown is 37?

I’m not running for the hills but this is a hope to stay in contention and filter in more youth season.

If Anaheim is competing for a wild card spot at the end of the season with a roster of kids and old vets while the Kings continue to leave their prospects on the 4th line or in Ontario, Blake and TM should be fired

 

[KINGS17]

Blake has done ok. The last 4 players he brought in: Lemieux, Arvidssson, Danault and Edler can all play. And all given up were 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th rd picks.

TM overuses Kopi and Roy. Neither should play over 20 minutes. Brown should have never been on the PP and moved off line 1 from day 1.
I still think Arvidsson is ok and was a setback to be out several games for him. No, he's not the 30 goal player he was, but he's not doing that bad
and think with Kempe up there, will start seeing a payoff.

Will like to see where the Kings are, once Doughty and Byfield are back. Please do NOT move Kaliyev or Kupari off in place of QB and
not move Clague off in place of DD. Move Maatta and Brown off. Do the right thing.

Your initial statement is a fair point. I don't think management would be very happy with the Kings' place in the standings without these four players on the roster.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Well, someone is to blame at this point. Is it Blake or TMc or both? Is ownership saying make the playoffs this season or you're all fired? I think many of us would be fine with an 80+ point season if youth was being integrated. It's happening on the defense because it was forced to happen due to injury and those kids are stepping up even if they have bad games here and there. Now it needs to happen on the forward lines. The best development teams insert their top prospects with veteran talent.

The investment is in youth, the whole "earn it" thought process I'm not entirely on board with when TMc is the one putting these kids in positions to "earn" his trust. @Raccoon Jesus has re-hashed this a million times, but our vets who are actually skilled should be good enough to insulate our top prospects on a line with them. These young players should not be expected to carry a line or constantly be put in situations that doesn't exploit their skills. Look at Kupari now. He looked like an exciting player early on, folks saying he's replaced Vilardi as 3C etc. Now he's being turned into a grinder. Fantastic.

 

[Magicman]

It 100% seemed like to me, the day Brown was not practicing AND TM was not on the ice for practice, (first time ever??)
I 100% believe they were meeting with ? Blake, Luc ? others to discuss the top line / Brown's play.
That night, he was still on line 1, but OFF PP1. I think they discussed that change. The PP was ill (not the good ill)
and had 3 goals for and 3 against of late, plus Brown had 0 PP points in 52 mins of PP time.

Then after that game, in which Brown was uber-perimeter and awful (yes, he hit one stationary dude hard, BFD)
Brown was lined up line 3 next day at practice. Seriously. Brown and TM not on ice at practice. Then a change was
made. Yes, coaches make the lineup decisions, BUT when everyone older than 4 years old can see 23 failing to that degree
and the coach will not make changes, the management would do something.

In the past, they would let Carter coast around and fail, but that was partly because no one was ready to take his place
and BIGGER, there was no mandate to make the playoffs. We all know that the playoff cut for last spot will be between
3 teams, separated by 1-3 points. Thus, I fully believe management may get involved to not let players fail and get involved,
since TM was probably set on leaving Brown on line one for all 82 games. (and I predicted he would have 9 goals 16 assists season.
I may have errored too high) I was called out "but Brown led the team in goals last year" Yeah, but half of those were in month
1 and by the last month of the season, he was a shell...and now a shell of that shell.

I mean, really. Then why Brown and TM not at practice? There was certainly a reason.

I would bet it was a discussion about Brown being available for trade, sent down/waivers or possibly even a buyout. Maybe Brown heard something or the Kings frontloaded him before the rumors began to leak out. And would begin to play him where the interest, if any, may be down the road. Nobody's making a deal for a #1 RW with 7 points.

 

[Lt Dan]

Well, someone is to blame at this point. Is it Blake or TMc or both? Is ownership saying make the playoffs this season or you're all fired? I think many of us would be fine with an 80+ point season if youth was being integrated. It's happening on the defense because it was forced to happen due to injury and those kids are stepping up even if they have bad games here and there. Now it needs to happen on the forward lines. The best development teams insert their top prospects with veteran talent.

The investment is in youth, the whole "earn it" thought process I'm not entirely on board with when TMc is the one putting these kids in positions to "earn" his trust. @Raccoon Jesus has re-hashed this a million times, but our vets who are actually skilled should be good enough to insulate our top prospects on a line with them. These young players should not be expected to carry a line or constantly be put in situations that doesn't exploit their skills. Look at Kupari now. He looked like an exciting player early on, folks saying he's replaced Vilardi as 3C etc. Now he's being turned into a grinder. Fantastic.

Somebody get this man a Choco Taco! he has earned it with this post

 

[KINGS17]

Well, someone is to blame at this point. Is it Blake or TMc or both? Is ownership saying make the playoffs this season or you're all fired? I think many of us would be fine with an 80+ point season if youth was being integrated. It's happening on the defense because it was forced to happen due to injury and those kids are stepping up even if they have bad games here and there. Now it needs to happen on the forward lines. The best development teams insert their top prospects with veteran talent.

The investment is in youth, the whole "earn it" thought process I'm not entirely on board with when TMc is the one putting these kids in positions to "earn" his trust. @Raccoon Jesus has re-hashed this a million times, but our vets who are actually skilled should be good enough to insulate our top prospects on a line with them. These young players should not be expected to carry a line or constantly be put in situations that doesn't exploit their skills. Look at Kupari now. He looked like an exciting player early on, folks saying he's replaced Vilardi as 3C etc. Now he's being turned into a grinder. Fantastic.

Luc "Lucky" Robitaille to Uncle Phil: Just checking in to make sure:

(Blake is Tom Cruise and is thinking..."WTF Luc!")

 

[cyclones22]

You watch, Kupari is going to get Vilardi'd soon enough. For as long as TMc is the coach, it's going to happen again and again until the player's talent (Byfield?) is so overwhelming that even TMc can't ruin him with his shenanigans. Many of us were excited at the prospect of the top 2 lines being good 2-way lines because it opened up the possibility of an offense focused and deployed 3rd line at least. But that's not happening at all. The cast-offs get placed on the bottom six. There was an opportunity to weaponize that 3rd line, but now it's a purely checking line.

 

[Sol]

The sun...it longs for them. It was satiated for a bit with Stevens and Willie. But it's feeding time..

Listen closely and you will hear it call for the Lucky Douche Robitaille, Rob Flake Ceo of Waste Management. And last but not least the Royal Jester himself Todd "useless panda" Mcllelan

 

[Lt Dan]

The sun...it longs for them. It was satiated for a bit with Stevens and Willie. But it's feeding time..

Listen closely and you will hear it call for the Lucky Douche Robitaille, Rob Flake Ceo of Waste Management. And last but not least the Royal Jester him Todd "useless panda" Mcllelan

could you please re-type this post in English and/or something that people can actually comprehend?

 

[Sol]

could you please re-type this post in English and/or something that people can actually comprehend?

After careful consideration, no

 

[Peter James Bond II]

You watch, Kupari is going to get Vilardi'd soon enough. For as long as TMc is the coach, it's going to happen again and again until the player's talent (Byfield?) is so overwhelming that even TMc can't ruin him with his shenanigans. Many of us were excited at the prospect of the top 2 lines being good 2-way lines because it opened up the possibility of an offense focused and deployed 3rd line at least. But that's not happening at all. The cast-offs get placed on the bottom six. There was an opportunity to weaponize that 3rd line, but now it's a purely checking line.

True.

Last year, Gabe had Carter and AA most of the year and never gelled. Carter was a ghost and no chemistry with Gabe and then goes to Pens and comes alive. Not sure why and how that happened.
But was difficult for Gabe to have success. Somehow, he and Lias had great chemistry and were the best duo in preseason not named Danault and Iafallo. Too bad Lias got injured.
I was hopeful to see how they both would do, in the regular season. Sure, it's up to each player to step up and have success, regardless who they play with, but unfortunately, it's a big deal
and does factor in. Lias was MEH last year, lined up with Luff, Wagner, Lizotte and he was busting it and making decent plays, only to see Wagner and Luff playing with tunnel vision and
incapable of making plays.

Kupari looked awesome for 2 weeks and then gets Browned-Lined. (trademark thingy here) Same result as the Gabe-Carter thing last year. Brown will continue to get his 13 minutes and it will be the far superior
Kupari, to get Gabed, to Ontario. Kupari would beat Brown 15 feet end to end race. Would out snipe him target shooting, with 12 MPH harder shot, can actually out hit Brown now,
who has been reduced to hitting stationary players. Kupari handles and passes pucks at a higher level as well. Matters not. He's put in a position to FAIL, if he cannot be Kaprizov / McDavid
level and go it alone. Truth is, he can almost go it alone and that's pretty amazing. But if he's not given better wingers and sits for 7 minute times on the clock, he almost cannot succeed.

Urban Dictionary: 'BROWN-LINED"
#1 definition
"Oh shttt, Kupari just got Brown-Lined and looks bad for him. See him on the Reign soon"