Oakland Athletics relocation to Las Vegas thread: Move to Vegas approved by MLB owners - Will play in Sacramento for 3-4 years

[KevFu]

When 3 teams in 3 different sports in 5 years bail on your city, maybe it's time to be honest with ourselves. Oakland was no longer a serious city for major sports.

It's really funny to me how the Warriors make the list of teams Oakland lost.

The New York Giants and Jets play 10.8 miles from New York state.
The Buffalo Bills have always played in Orchard Park, 10.9 miles from Buffalo.
The Atlanta Braves moved 13 miles north to Cumberland.
The Ottawa Senators play 17 miles from Ottawa.
The Dallas Cowboys have been playing 19 miles from Dallas in Arlington since 1971.

Boston is a four-sport city with the New England Patriots being 31 miles away in Foxborough, but the Oakland Warriors moving 11.2 miles outside of Oakland is "losing a team." (Oh, sorry, did I say Oakland Warriors? I meant Golden State).

 

[BlueSeal]

Just save everyone the time and say you don’t know what the f*** you’re talking about.

A’s moved both them and the Raiders after they signed a 10-year lease under false pretenses. Warriors were always the bay’s team, and Lacob would have built a new stadium in Oakland for the A’s with his own money, like he did in SF with the Warriors. Butt Selig moved the A’s when he sold them to his frat buddy Lew Wolfe (who ended up selling his majority to Fisher) instead of the much, much MUCH more competent Lacob.

But please, keep regurgitating the same old shit that anyone with a brain can see through.

Didn't Wolff help the Blues build a new stadium and entertainment area?

Owners (plural) have tried for decades to build the A's a new stadium. The problem is the Oakland City Council, no one else.

 

[John Price]

A's clear last big hurdles for $1.75B Vegas stadium

The Las Vegas Stadium Authority approved lease, non-relocation and development documents Thursday to clear the last major hurdles for the Athletics to construct a $1.75 billion stadium.

www.espn.com

 

[The Burdened]

A's clear last big hurdles for $1.75B Vegas stadium

The Las Vegas Stadium Authority approved lease, non-relocation and development documents Thursday to clear the last major hurdles for the Athletics to construct a $1.75 billion stadium.

www.espn.com

Great news for A's fans!

 

[BlueSeal]

A's clear last big hurdles for $1.75B Vegas stadium

The Las Vegas Stadium Authority approved lease, non-relocation and development documents Thursday to clear the last major hurdles for the Athletics to construct a $1.75 billion stadium.

www.espn.com

Welcome to Vegas A's lol

Meanwhile the city of Oakland is discussing declaring bankruptcy, but let's continue to blame team owners who see the insanity, sat f-k this and moved the team. Ears in Oakland have been tone deaf long enough.

 

[MMC]

A's clear last big hurdles for $1.75B Vegas stadium

The Las Vegas Stadium Authority approved lease, non-relocation and development documents Thursday to clear the last major hurdles for the Athletics to construct a $1.75 billion stadium.

www.espn.com

The move can’t come fast enough, can’t wait to go to Angel games on the strip

 

[Terry Yake]

lol. final hurdle my ass

the real final hurdle is whether or not fisher is going to open up his wallet and pay for that 1.75 billion (probably a lot higher than that) stadium. and considering his track record, i'll put my money on them getting stuck in sacramento

 

[Filthy Dangles]

lol. final hurdle my ass

the real final hurdle is whether or not fisher is going to open up his wallet and pay for that 1.75 billion (probably a lot higher than that) stadium. and considering his track record, i'll put my money on them getting stuck in sacramento

He’s supposed to get 400M from county and 300M loan from bank.

Article says county funding doesn’t kick in until he’s invested 100M of his own, and that hes currently invested 40M

 

[GKJ]

lol. final hurdle my ass

the real final hurdle is whether or not fisher is going to open up his wallet and pay for that 1.75 billion (probably a lot higher than that) stadium. and considering his track record, i'll put my money on them getting stuck in sacramento

His track record seems to be getting the team to Vegas. If he’s got the keys, he’s going to push it forward now.

 

[SoupNazi]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5982452/2024/12/09/as-spending-union-grievance-severino/

 

[Voight]

It's really funny to me how the Warriors make the list of teams Oakland lost.

The New York Giants and Jets play 10.8 miles from New York state.
The Buffalo Bills have always played in Orchard Park, 10.9 miles from Buffalo.
The Atlanta Braves moved 13 miles north to Cumberland.
The Ottawa Senators play 17 miles from Ottawa.
The Dallas Cowboys have been playing 19 miles from Dallas in Arlington since 1971.

Boston is a four-sport city with the New England Patriots being 31 miles away in Foxborough, but the Oakland Warriors moving 11.2 miles outside of Oakland is "losing a team." (Oh, sorry, did I say Oakland Warriors? I meant Golden State).

It's a different situation with football teams. A lot of the time they dont have the space to build a stadium in whatever city they home to.

Braves moved because they wanted to be closer to their core fanbase. Sens play where they do because incompetent ownership wanted the arena to be the center of a huge development.

None of these examples apply tot he Warriors.

 

[John Price]

Sucks Oakland lost it but that new Tropicana stadium is going to be pretty sweet and it's ideally located too across from NYNY

Not going to lie I would take a trip there

 

[IU Hawks fan]

It's a different situation with football teams. A lot of the time they dont have the space to build a stadium in whatever city they home to.

Braves moved because they wanted to be closer to their core fanbase. Sens play where they do because incompetent ownership wanted the arena to be the center of a huge development.

None of these examples apply tot he Warriors.

They moved closer to the corporate dollars. That's the difference between baseball and basketball.

 

[KevFu]

It's a different situation with football teams. A lot of the time they dont have the space to build a stadium in whatever city they home to.

Braves moved because they wanted to be closer to their core fanbase. Sens play where they do because incompetent ownership wanted the arena to be the center of a huge development.

None of these examples apply tot he Warriors.

The Warriors are definitely different than the 49ers, because of the land space issue, but baseball teams and football teams stadiums aren't that vast of a difference -- see all the old cookie cutters with NFL/MLB teams in them, and the MLB stadiums now that host bowl games/football games, like SF, NYY, CHC, and ARZ.


However Atlanta is a great example of how those two things are essentially the same.

The Braves left downtown Atlanta, the poorer area, for the more affluent one in Cumberland. The stadiums are 11.67 miles apart.

The Warriors left Oakland, the poorer area, for the more affluent one in San Francisco. The arenas are 11.77 miles apart.

And those distances are by mailing address, site to site it's at worst a toss up. No one says the Braves LEFT ATLANTA, but the Warriors went the same distance away from Oakland. The only difference is that everyone knows San Francisco is San Francisco, and Cumberland is "basically Atlanta."

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

The Warriors are definitely different than the 49ers, because of the land space issue, but baseball teams and football teams stadiums aren't that vast of a difference -- see all the old cookie cutters with NFL/MLB teams in them, and the MLB stadiums now that host bowl games/football games, like SF, NYY, CHC, and ARZ.


However Atlanta is a great example of how those two things are essentially the same.

The Braves left downtown Atlanta, the poorer area, for the more affluent one in Cumberland. The stadiums are 11.67 miles apart.

The Warriors left Oakland, the poorer area, for the more affluent one in San Francisco. The arenas are 11.77 miles apart.

And those distances are by mailing address, site to site it's at worst a toss up. No one says the Braves LEFT ATLANTA, but the Warriors went the same distance away from Oakland. The only difference is that everyone knows San Francisco is San Francisco, and Cumberland is "basically Atlanta."

Because a lot of people here simply enjoy trolling., Maude’s included.

Warriors owner has a ballsack and a spine and financed the arena himself. The team was always the bay’s and not just Oakland’s. Fisher moved both the A’s and the Raiders when he signed that disingenuous 10-year lease under the premise of staying in town.

The warriors owner wanted to (and still would) buy the A’s. It’s too bad Selig chose his college friend instead of someone worth a shit.

Didn't Wolff help the Blues build a new stadium and entertainment area?

Owners (plural) have tried for decades to build the A's a new stadium. The problem is the Oakland City Council, no one else.

That was proven wrong when they got the money and met Fisher’s original demands.

Try again.

 

[BlueSeal]

That was proven wrong when they got the money and met Fisher’s original demands.

Try again.

Given the current state of the Oakland City Council where the mayor was recalled and is now being investigated along with her 'boyfriend' by the Feds for a variety of things, I think Fisher might have seen through the veil and said screw this, we need to leave town.

I'm a flatlander from The Town and I know for fact that owners have tried to build the A's a new stadium for dsecades and ran into all sorts of nonsense and again I say blame the -city-, not the team. Folks see the writing on the wall and the truth is the City of Oakland, now facing bankruptcy, makes you wonder how much Oakland could have backed anything when they can't even pay their employees or even the police department, schools, etc. It's a mess and it's been a mess. No owner of anything would voluntarily do business with a city if they knew this was the deal.

 

[eojsmada]

Given the current state of the Oakland City Council where the mayor was recalled and is now being investigated along with her 'boyfriend' by the Feds for a variety of things, I think Fisher might have seen through the veil and said screw this, we need to leave town.

I'm a flatlander from The Town and I know for fact that owners have tried to build the A's a new stadium for dsecades and ran into all sorts of nonsense and again I say blame the -city-, not the team. Folks see the writing on the wall and the truth is the City of Oakland, now facing bankruptcy, makes you wonder how much Oakland could have backed anything when they can't even pay their employees or even the police department, schools, etc. It's a mess and it's been a mess. No owner of anything would voluntarily do business with a city if they knew this was the deal.

That and I think Fisher wanted out of the current stadium and to build his own so that he gets all of the revenues and not have to be a tenant of the city. Of course, the city probably was going to handcuff him and not allow for him to find anywhere else to build the stadium, in the area.

But I agree with you. There's a lot of mess on the side of the city that people are glossing over and are just mad that they are losing their team and will simply blame the owner for it, regardless of any evidence to the contrary.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Given the current state of the Oakland City Council where the mayor was recalled and is now being investigated along with her 'boyfriend' by the Feds for a variety of things, I think Fisher might have seen through the veil and said screw this, we need to leave town.

I'm a flatlander from The Town and I know for fact that owners have tried to build the A's a new stadium for dsecades and ran into all sorts of nonsense and again I say blame the -city-, not the team. Folks see the writing on the wall and the truth is the City of Oakland, now facing bankruptcy, makes you wonder how much Oakland could have backed anything when they can't even pay their employees or even the police department, schools, etc. It's a mess and it's been a mess. No owner of anything would voluntarily do business with a city if they knew this was the deal.

Being from somewhere doesn’t mean you know anything, as apparently is the case here.

They got Fisher’s money well before any of the issues with Thao. That’s just a nonsense reason to leave an area, anyway.

They had a stadium in Fremont that was a sure thing, but the GIANTS blocked it because they had territory rights” (later confirmed in the official notes that those rights were contingent on the Giants moving there and would go back to the A’s if they didn’t).

Mlb and the Giants are the main reasons the A’s are moving along with Fisher. Quit trying to spread bullshit just because you hate where you’re from.

 

[Hawkeye8]

They had a stadium in Fremont that was a sure thing, but the GIANTS blocked it because they had territory rights” (later confirmed in the official notes that those rights were contingent on the Giants moving there and would go back to the A’s if they didn’t).

I don't remember ever hearing of that. I know the Giants have San Jose but not Fremont. The Giants having Fremont as well would really be odd seeing as Fremont is the same county as Oakland. The Giants oppositely screwed them out of San Jose ever being a real option.

The A's did buy land in Fremont but had a lot of local opposition to building a stadium there, especially a lot of complaints about potential traffic issues. Now I don't know how seriousthe A’s were about ever actually building it. I remember some of the rendering and discussions about what they would have there. I also want to say there were environmental issues that would have to be addressed as well to move forward with the project.

A's scrap plans to build new stadium in Fremont

The Athletics have scrapped their plans to move to Fremont.

www.espn.com

It's just been a long history of the A’s saying they will do something and never really following it through or doing proper ground work. Too much time spent trying talking about SJ, which sadly only belong to the Giant when it should have gone back to joint territory for both teams. Another example is them announcing plans for a ball park at Laney College before even having a true agreement. Faculty at the college voted against it, which killed any plans of a ball park there.


It is funny that the Haward Terminal was the closest they got to actually getting a stadium, in the Bay Area and yet they ran away when money was actually being pulled together for it. Thr A's clearly negotiated in bad faith as they working deal at least the deal to go to Vegas. MLB mad to real attempt to keep the team in the East Bay, further proven by no relocation fee. Never attempted to get a local owner that would keep the team around. If they really wanted a team in Vegas, they could have given Fisher an expansion. The leaguebthen could have gotten money for the sale and Fisher not having to pay expansion fees. This also could have solved the issue of the A’s playing in a minor league ball park.