Proposal: NYR/WPG/VAN blockbuster

[BatVader]

The Rangers are unlikely to trade Schneider but they have a boatload of options to include. If they want Scheifele they can do the trade without involving a third team.

Maybe, but they can’t do it without involving Schneider

 

[BatVader]

I’d do this… addresses all of WPGs needs with players they need

 

[BatVader]

If Mark was traded for a roster player, zero interest in any winger return as main piece. But you would have my attn if you said Horvat & Nils for Mark. Nucks get the best player overall with 2.5 years term for a PPG centre. Jets get a 2C and a young 3rd line winger.



Agreed

Nils doesn’t cut it for Scheif.
It’s Schneider or no thanks to NYR
Also, Jets have lots of young Cs they need to start using, but no top 6 RW, so a C return isn’t the priority.

 

[Icebreakers]

scheifele is better, plays a more important position and only costs 6.25 million a year, boeser has 1 year of control left with a q/o of 7.5 so he does not work at all for the jets

Boeser has 2 years of control left. Hes not UFA until 2024.

 

[CupSeeker]

I wouldn't do this as a Jets fan. Don't really need another D prospect, and tho Boeser would be a nice fit his cap hit is pretty high, and the whole trade would just leave the Jets with a huge hole at C, and little cap space to fill that hole.

Schneider is not a prospect. He's an effective, young RD on an ELC. Monster value.

 

[Hunter368]

I would do that

Its a good starting point from my POV. Fills Jets need of a good top 6 centre which is far more important then any winger, plus a good younger winger. No interest in the main piece being a winger or a unproven prospect (not to mention I doubt he would be traded). Fills the Jets needs well with proven talent. Nucks get a 1C. Mark is traded a top 6 centre is needed back if we still want to compete now. Jets have no proven options at top 6 centre at this stage (to replace Mark), Cole is better to develop his first few years at wing.

 

[gojetsgo]

Boeser has 2 years of control left. Hes not UFA until 2024.

how does he have 2 left? he had 3 years on his elc and were currently in his 3rd rfa year, you become a ufa after 7 years in the league 3(elc) +3(rfa) =6 years leaving 1 year remaning until ufa

 

[Icebreakers]

how does he have 2 left? he had 3 years on his elc and were currently in his 3rd rfa year, you become a ufa after 7 years in the league 3(elc) +3(rfa) =6 years leaving 1 year remaning until ufa

You have to be on an NHL roster for 40 games for it to count as 1 season (you don't have to play 40). Boesers "first" year he signed his contract with 1 month left in the season and only played 9 games.

His contract didnt slide because he signed his deal when he was 20.

 

[Heldig]

If you actually wanted to do a three way here it would probably be something around:

NYR:
Mark Scheifele

WPG:
Brock Boeser

VAN:
Braden Schneider

NYR gets a player that might put them over the top for contending over the next 3 years in potentially the best years of their older forwards play + the ELCs of some of their young talent, WPG improves at wing and insures themselves for the future with Wheeler getting older (Ehlers + Boeser is amazing going forward), and VAN gets the perfect young right D that they desperately need. Picks and some other assets can be used to shore up where this is uneven.

NYR doesnt want to part with Schneider though (understandably) so Rangers fans probably would say no.

Vancouver makes out like bandits. Jets lose out. And Rangers are still not trading Schneider.

 

[gojetsgo]

You have to be on an NHL roster for 40 games for it to count as 1 season (you don't have to play 40). Boesers "first" year he signed his contract with 1 month left in the season and only played 9 games.

His contract didnt slide because he signed his deal when he was 20.

ok, I stand corrected, still doesn't change the my overall opinion on that trade though

 

[bernmeister]

no

 

[Ninjadude]

Jets make out like bandits.
Rangers pay a lot.
Nucks can get a better return on Boeser.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Let me get this straight, Rangers won’t trade Schneider in a deal for Miller who’s superior to Scheifele, but will trade Schneider+1st+Kravtsov/Chytil for Scheifele?

Brutal for New York

 

[Canadian Canuck]

If Mark was traded for a roster player, zero interest in any winger return as main piece. But you would have my attn if you said Horvat & Nils for Mark. Nucks get the best player overall with 2.5 years term for a PPG centre. Jets get a 2C and a young 3rd line winger.



Agreed

I’d do Boeser+Hog for Scheifele. We need a Top right handed center badly, haven’t had one since Kesler

 

[nonfactor]

Canucks say no.

Honestly, that’s what we’ll get for Boeser given his QO. That said, I’d take Kravtsov over Chytil, but since we need help on D, this probably ain’t it.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

1. Anyone that has watched Schneider step into the show and immediately look like a 10 year vet will realize why he is untouchable.
2. Rangers literally can't afford Scheiffele's contract and term post Ziba extension. This trade would have made sense before the season, not now. Schneider is the Rangers path forward to solving Trouba's contract.

The whole give some to get some argument only applies when both talent and salary implications make sense. This proposal doesn't factor both.

 

[One Winged Angel]

1. Anyone that has watched Schneider step into the show and immediately look like a 10 year vet will realize why he is untouchable.
2. Rangers literally can't afford Scheiffele's contract and term post Ziba extension. This trade would have made sense before the season, not now. Schneider is the Rangers path forward to solving Trouba's contract.

The whole give some to get some argument only applies when both talent and salary implications make sense. This proposal doesn't factor both.

Excellent post, hit it on the head of the nail.

 

[One Winged Angel]

The Rangers didn’t want to move Schneider for Eichel. They’re not going to move him for a player that’s older, has less term on his deal and is inferior to Eichel.

 

[elitepete]

I would consider it from the Canucks

 

[elitepete]

But you would have my attn if you said Horvat & Nils for Mark.

No thanks

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Let me get this straight, Rangers won’t trade Schneider in a deal for Miller who’s superior to Scheifele, but will trade Schneider+1st+Kravtsov/Chytil for Scheifele?

Brutal for New York

How stupid! Just shows Miller might resign according to the market!

 

[NYR425]

Rangers are not trading Schneider, counter offer is
Lundkvist, Kravtsov, Chytil and choice of (Hajek or Reunanen) for Scheifele

 

[Petes2424]

Been a while since I made a proposal so be kind (or not hahaha)

:

Mark Scheifele (C) $6.125M×3

:

Brock Boeser (RW) $5.875M expiring
Braden Schneider (D) $925k×3

:

NYR 22 1st round pick
Filip Chytil (C/LW) $2.3Mx2 (or maybe Kravtsov?)

Rangers fans won't like giving up Schneider one bit but shore up at C for the semi long term. Gotta give to get.

Jets get their reset and a RHS wing & D, both of which are needs iirc

Canucks pull decent value for a guy they might not keep, getting a potential reclamation project and freeing up some cap

Flame away...

It’s not bad. Rangers fan will hate it because it’s HF and prospects are king here but they would make this deal.

Winnipeg is the team who nixes it. Scheifele types don’t grow on trees. Especially at that contract.

Even though it’s a great place to play, it’s right near the bottom for places players want to sign. So when you have a guy who would be untouchable in other cities, who wants to be there and has a contract like that, if you move him, you better be getting a big tune C prospect in return too. Something the Rangers just don’t have.

 

[TGWL]

Nils doesn’t cut it for Scheif.
It’s Schneider or no thanks to NYR
Also, Jets have lots of young Cs they need to start using, but no top 6 RW, so a C return isn’t the priority.

Wrong Nils.

 

[north49er]

Nobody seems to like it so it would probably work.....