Confirmed with Link: NYR/STL - Tarasenko to NYR

[mas0764]

Here's Mikkola feeding Kakko 3 apples for a hat trick during the 2019 IIHF championship.

If this trade makes Kakko break out, then we underpaid.

 

[Gluten Free Breadman]

I hope Laffy is okay losing his best friend. Maybe Miller should shoot his shot again and things will work out for the two of them this time.

 

[GAGLine]

Rangers window is pretty much the next 2-3 years whether we like it or not. What happens after that is murky at best. It's also realistic to assume whoever the rangers draft this year won't be ready for at least 2-3 years. In 2-3 years certain veteran players will be traded for picks and prospects. Rangers will hopefully still have Laf, Chytil, Kakko, Kravtsov, Otmann as the transition core. You plug the other holes by signing players.

You really make it sound like the rangers have no young assets. We aren't the freaking Islanders here. We're still one of the top 5 youngest teams in the league.

Which is it? If our window is the next 2-3 years, then you must not expect those young assets to be able to carry the team in a few years.

Yes, anyone we select this year won't be ready for 2-3 years, which helps us to extend that 2-3 year window.

Do you want 2 or 3 chances at the cup and then rebuild again? Or do you want to have a chance at the cup every year?

 

[Dijock94]

Curious to know the source that the Rangers goal is to win one or two rounds. Did Drury say that? Gallant? Dolan?

You said exactly that, so what's the evidence?

Every player hopes to win it all.

In reality we have a roster to win a cup.

Centers - high end 1C, two 2Cs

Wingers - 3 star wingers

Defense - easily a top 5 in the league

Elite goaltender

Shesty goes on a tear and we could easily win this.

 

[mas0764]

Today I learned it's not about the trade, it's about the trade tree. And if you are the GM from 2021-present your approach should be dependent on how many cups your franchise has won in the previous century.

You probably shouldn’t do things that have proven not to work, glad you learned that.

Panarin has someone to show off to now

Add a Motte... and we're goodish

Laffy Chytil Kakko
Panarin Zibs Tank
Kreider Trocheck Vesey
Motte Goodrow Gauthier

I like Cuylle... he's not really ready. I'm sure he'll get a look but Motte is a proven performer

or they can put Kravtsov with two 'stronger' board players, in Kreider and Trocheck, and drop Vesey to the 4th.

Your last paragraph should be the plan.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Drury was quoted praising Kravy a bit today and was asked why he wasn’t in the lineup and he said it’s up to Turk, but drury thinks he played a lot of good hockey and has been practicing well.

One can only hope that translate into playing well in real games.

 

[GAGLine]

We keep the higher of the two picks.

That would be a cool stipulation, demanding we get the better player.

We keep the better pick. It remains to be seen if that results in the better player.

Any time people write higher or lower, there's just confusion as to what that means. By saying better, there's no confusion.

 

[Baby Punisher]

In reality we have a roster to win a cup.

Centers - high end 1C, two 2Cs

Wingers - 3 star wingers

Defense - easily a top 5 in the league

Elite goaltender

Shesty goes on a tear and we could easily win this.

Drury made sure the rebuild was over the day JD and Groton were let go. Our time is NOW!

 

[huerter]

You probably shouldn’t do things that have proven not to work, glad you learned that.

no mas

 

[Synergy27]

tl;dr

Tl;

We keep the better pick. It remains to be seen if that results in the better player.

Any time people write higher or lower, there's just confusion as to what that means. By saying better, there's no confusion.

What I’m saying is that, we have no idea which puck will be “better” until quite some time after the choices are made. We retained the right to pick first.

I was then making a joke about how it would be funny if the condition on the trade was that we get the objectively better player down the line. Like if pick 24 busts and pick 32 becomes an all star, we get pick 32. I was being silly. Silly.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

St. Louis G.M. Doug Armstrong on the trade:

 

[The New Russian Five]

Which is it? If our window is the next 2-3 years, then you must not expect those young assets to be able to carry the team in a few years.

Yes, anyone we select this year won't be ready for 2-3 years, which helps us to extend that 2-3 year window.

Do you want 2 or 3 chances at the cup and then rebuild again? Or do you want to have a chance at the cup every year?

Honestly, it's hard to say where the team will be in 3 years. There is clearly 2 distinct generations on the team. We know what we have with the older generation and right now we are somewhat of a contender. While you are in contender status you have to be willing to give up some assets. Considering Drury only lost one real asset this deadline (1 of his 2 first round picks), I'd say that is a win. He can still build for the future and went in on improving this team for this run.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

We keep the higher of the two picks.

That would be a cool stipulation, demanding we get the better player.

I always get tripped up with the language around these. “Higher” meaning lower number pick I’m assuming?

 

[Deleted member 23124]

I always get tripped up with the language around these. “Higher” meaning lower number pick I’m assuming?

That is correct (as I understand it).

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

10 93 tank
13 72 24
20 16 trade
26 21 15
miko

55 23
79 8
trade 4
trade

Like I said two months ago this roster needed 4 pieces: two top 9 rws and two defensemen. They got 1 of the 4 pieces they need. The defensemen dont need to be stars, but Braun like #6 and #7 guys for playoff reinforcements. Wont be surprised if Braun somehow ends up here again this year.

Meier ends up here for kravtsov and 24 1st?

I mean Meier is a pipe dream at this point. I don’t see any way the money works without robbing Peter to pay Paul.

But if that happened in some miracle scenario we would have 2 bonafide 1st lines the kid line, and a 3rd line

 

[GAGLine]

Honestly, it's hard to say where the team will be in 3 years. There is clearly 2 distinct generations on the team. We know what we have with the older generation and right now we are somewhat of a contender. While you are in contender status you have to be willing to give up some assets. Considering Drury only lost one real asset this deadline (1 of his 2 first round picks), I'd say that is a win. He can still build for the future and went in on improving this team for this run.

Agreed. Like I said, I'm not freaking out about trading the pick. I was just arguing against the idea that people want the picks because they're expecting a 50 goal scorer. We need NHL players on cheap contracts to ensure that we can be a good team for more than 2-3 years.

 

[Savant]

Still need two bottom six players and Igor to be hot to have a chance.

Either way I get to see them on Saturday

 

[Atax]

Line up is filling out nicely. Need some more depth on the bottom line and lets rock. LGR!

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I just heard about this trade. Simply Fantastic. Tarasenko is the perfect fit for this team and came with retention and we got an upgrade at 3LD and gave up no top prospects. So happy. We still have some money to upgrade the 4th line also. Simply fantastic.

 

[Ben Grimm]

Still need two bottom six players and Igor to be hot to have a chance. Either way I get to see them on Saturday

@Savant , c'mon bro. NYR, Liberty, and Mets are 2023 champs. The SC is ours to lose.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

So we have 415k deadline space, plus 800k when Hajek leaves roster, plus the 766k that represents Leashmyscroat being sent down, so we have almost 2 mil in deadline space?

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Agreed. Like I said, I'm not freaking out about trading the pick. I was just arguing against the idea that people want the picks because they're expecting a 50 goal scorer. We need NHL players on cheap contracts to ensure that we can be a good team for more than 2-3 years.

They have Kakko, Chytil, Laf, Fox, Schneider, Miller who are all under 25. The team is still young plus we kept all of our top prospects and still have a first, 2nd, and two 3rds in this years draft. They will be competitive for a long time.

 

[FultonReed]

giggling. absolutely giggling.

put him on PP2 instead of Trouba.

 

[CLW]

If this trade makes Kakko break out, then we underpaid.

It's not so much Mikkola, but Tank is excellent at finding space and shooting exactly from those areas Kaapo needs to learn to shoot from. Someone said Tank was a good mentor for Thomas. If Tank can give some pointers to Kakko that could go a long way for his next steps.

 

[n8]

giggling. absolutely giggling.

put him on PP2 instead of Trouba.

I want to see him as a PP1 right side hammer option