Confirmed with Link: NYR/STL - Tarasenko to NYR

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He hasn’t had a great year and is a rental. I don’t like giving up the 1st for that.
I see opportunity.
He's only 31, reportedly recovered frim surgeries, playing for his next contract, and will be playing with really skilled guys
 
For those complaining about giving up the picks, remember when we drafted the first overall and the second overall who combined goals this season would not even be in the top 10 goal scorers in the league?!?!

I’m tired of people treating draft picks like they are 50 goal scorers around here. The Rangers can’t develop players( look at the threads saying that all over this forum) so might as well take chances on other guys!
 
For those complaining about giving up the picks, remember when we drafted the first overall and the second overall who combined goals this season would not even be in the top 10 goal scorers in the league?!?!

I’m tired of people treating draft picks like they are 50 goal scorers around here. The Rangers can’t develop players( look at the threads saying that all over this forum) so might as well take chances on other guys!
Best case scenario, whoever the Rangers pick there scores 40 points 6 years from now.
 
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Like I said two months ago this roster needed 4 pieces: two top 9 rws and two defensemen. They got 2 of the 4 pieces they need. The defensemen dont need to be stars, but Braun like #6 and #7 guys for playoff reinforcements. Wont be surprised if Braun somehow ends up here again this year.

Meier ends up here for kravtsov and 24 1st?
 
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For those complaining about giving up the picks, remember when we drafted the first overall and the second overall who combined goals this season would not even be in the top 10 goal scorers in the league?!?!

I’m tired of people treating draft picks like they are 50 goal scorers around here. The Rangers can’t develop players( look at the threads saying that all over this forum) so might as well take chances on other guys!
I'm not freaking out about trading the pick since we still have 1 left, but it's not about expecting a 50 goal scorer. It's about keeping the pipeline stocked. If we want to be good year after year, we need young players on cheap contracts to come in and contribute. Our pipeline is a little depleted right now. We've got some guys, but we can't be sure they will all work out, which is why we need to keep adding good prospects. We should still get 2 good ones with our top 2 picks this year.
 
10 93 tank
13 72 24
20 16 trade
26 21 15
miko

55 23
79 8
trade 4
trade

Like I said two months ago this roster needed 4 pieces: two top 9 rws and two defensemen. They got 1 of the 4 pieces they need. The defensemen dont need to be stars, but Braun like #6 and #7 guys for playoff reinforcements. Wont be surprised if Braun somehow ends up here again this year.

Meier ends up here for kravtsov and 24 1st?
Huh? Miko is the 6th D guy who is better defensively than Braun was. That spot is filled. Honestly they just need a good bottom 6 winger at this point (Motte) and they are done.

Also on what planet do you think the rangers have the cap space now for Meier as well?
 
I'm not freaking out about trading the pick since we still have 1 left, but it's not about expecting a 50 goal scorer. It's about keeping the pipeline stocked. If we want to be good year after year, we need young players on cheap contracts to come in and contribute. Our pipeline is a little depleted right now. We've got some guys, but we can't be sure they will all work out, which is why we need to keep adding good prospects. We should still get 2 good ones with our top 2 picks this year.
Rangers window is pretty much the next 2-3 years whether we like it or not. What happens after that is murky at best. It's also realistic to assume whoever the rangers draft this year won't be ready for at least 2-3 years. In 2-3 years certain veteran players will be traded for picks and prospects. Rangers will hopefully still have Laf, Chytil, Kakko, Kravtsov, Otmann as the transition core. You plug the other holes by signing players.

You really make it sound like the rangers have no young assets. We aren't the freaking Islanders here. We're still one of the top 5 youngest teams in the league.
 
Should have just f***ing re-signed Buch ... let's see how this pans out, but for oversight purposes:

We turned Buchnevich and Lundqvist, Skinner and a 4th

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50 games of Tarasenko, Mikkola and a 2nd?

imo that's major ass return.
 
Not really. If Laf and Kakko had busted out like Kane and Toews or some other high end picks then we'd be there. We may still get there. Should we sit around waiting? Let our older good players decline first? We might very well have a long stretch of teams that can and sometimes will go deep. One of them might reach the promised land. It's really all I ask for. Nothing is promised, given or guaranteed.
Nothing is given including this trades outcome. It’s why you play the better odds and try to win value exchanges always. 8 weeks of a player is almost never the winning value exchange. Like I said even at 31 this move is better if there was a chance he could be resigned.
 
The only other option is to leave him in the press box and I don't see how that helps anyone.

I've said all along that Drury decided before he came back that he was going to trade him first chance he got. There's a little less than a month left until the deadline....I think he plays until Drury finds someone to take him.
Drury was quoted praising Kravy a bit today and was asked why he wasn’t in the lineup and he said it’s up to Turk, but drury thinks he played a lot of good hockey and has been practicing well.
 
Should have just f***ing re-signed Buch ... let's see how this pans out, but for oversight purposes:

We turned Buchnevich and Lundqvist, Skinner and a 4th

into

50 games of Tarasenko, Mikkola and a 2nd?

imo that's major ass return.
lundqvist?

At the moment we don't know that we're moving the dallas pick.

We moved buch because we couldn't afford him long term because the expectation was that kakko and laf would need huge raises and ice time. While that didnt immediately happen if we'd signed him to an 8x5m we'd be absolutely screwed worse than we are now with cap space if we had signed him.

I didnt like the move because I felt the return was light, and I'm not saying it was solid, but moving buch made sense at the time, and it still makes sense.

We also don't make the major run we did without copp/vatrano/motte
and we don't make those moves unless we moved buch before the start of the season.
 
youre showing your ass here.

Tampa paid a 1st for goodrow at the deadline, and you're using them as an example for your argument of doing the opposite of that.
Reading comprehension is key. You’re showing your ass here.

I said PRIOR to Tampa.
 
Buying out Goodrow doesn't give us enough space to sign Tarasenko to that deal.

It's his last big contract. He's going to want to get paid. I don't see him taking even that much of a discount, especially if he plays well for us.

Maybe it depends on the cap space the rest of the league has.
 
Yeah, but winning one round isn't the goal.

I think that's this organization's problem.

It sees the end goal as winning a round or two. That placates the fanbase as sufficiently "fun," and placates ownership as sufficiently profitable.

I know you say "talent isn't the issue, it's the internal development that is holding us back," but until something else changes, all I have to point to regarding the consistent underachievement is adding more young talent.

Curious to know the source that the Rangers goal is to win one or two rounds. Did Drury say that? Gallant? Dolan?

You said exactly that, so what's the evidence?

Every player hopes to win it all.
 
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Reading comprehension is key. You’re showing your ass here.

I said PRIOR to Tampa.
You don’t want to go there.

Let’s pick an arbitrary year and say that only things that happened before that year actually matter because that fits my narrative better.

It’s a dumb argument and you know it.

Everybody who makes a bad point on here that refuses to admit they’re wrong blames the responder for hurr durr reading comprehension.

Get over yourself. It’s a bad argument
 
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