Proposal: NYR - SJ again

[CanadienShark]

Walman
Bordeleau

For

Kakko
Jones
Carrick

Walman solidifies the left side, Bordeleau is depth.

Kakko with new talented youngsters might help his game.

The cap works, probably off on value.

I've always liked Kakko, but we'd prefer a right shot RW. I don't love or hate this deal, but honestly we're probably better off just sticking with Walman. Jones and Carrick don't offer any real value to SJ.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I've always liked Kakko, but we'd prefer a right shot RW. I don't love or hate this deal, but honestly we're probably better off just sticking with Walman. Jones and Carrick don't offer any real value to SJ.

IMO, Jones and Carrick offer offer depth, that would enable more moves to build.

 

[CanadienShark]

IMO, Jones and Carrick offer offer depth, that would enable more moves to build.

We've got depth, we need quality.

 

[Bizz]

Walman
Bordeleau

For

Kakko
Jones
Carrick

Walman solidifies the left side, Bordeleau is depth.

Kakko with new talented youngsters might help his game.

The cap works, probably off on value.

Kakko is a bust with negative trade value. You'd have to throw in at least two 1sts for that to even be close to worthwhile.

 

[Machinehead]

This feels like swapping similar pieces for the sake of doing a trade.

 

[jonlin]

NYR get:

Granlund 5M UFA 2025

2025 2nd

SJ get:

Kakko 2.4M RFA 2025

Miller 3.872M RFA 2025

NYR get the best player in the deal and an early 2nd. Granlund should be a decent add for their window. SJ get 2 young upcoming players who will fit their rebuild. NYR doesnt have the cap to resign all their guys.

 

[bernmeister]

NYR get:

Granlund 5M UFA 2025

2025 2nd

SJ get:

Kakko 2.4M RFA 2025

Miller 3.872M RFA 2025

NYR get the best player in the deal and an early 2nd. Granlund should be a decent add for their window. SJ get 2 young upcoming players who will fit their rebuild. NYR doesnt have the cap to resign all their guys.

NO value of KK + KAM collectively more and prefer them to Gran
also
after jettisoning Trouba, Lindgren, Vesey this yr and bread before end of next season agrees to waive to avoid ugly scene [he is not sniffing 11.6 again] that IS enuf to resign, even if we do a big # of Shesty, which is not a given

Kakko is needed for when Panarin leaves

 

[jonlin]

Kakko is needed for when Panarin leaves

Kakko is no Panarin. He is more like 1/3 of a Stone.

 

[bernmeister]

Kakko is no Panarin. He is more like 1/3 of a Stone.

You are entirely missing the pt
KK = effective and functional depth on a productive line
we do not have sufficient reserve ready to replace if we recognize
1RW = held for Gabe P
bread is gonna go b'c Rs not paying anywhere near 11.6 for him
we do not have depth w/ready replacements
plus we like what we have

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Kakko is a bust with negative trade value. You'd have to throw in at least two 1sts for that to even be close to worthwhile.

Kakko would be like your second best forward.